sorry, posted early again
In post 139, Smudger wrote: In post 124, Alabaska J wrote:i also feel as though a few people are jumping on the recent Smudger thing pretty hard *coughbubcough*; almost looks like scum trying to jump off a wagon on one of their buddies at just the right time, if you know what i mean. i also don't like yessiree's 122, as he basically piggybacks smudger's points completely.
am I missing something or did something get lost in the crash, the recent Smudger thing, what is that and what are you actually suggesting?
didn't like two or three people vote you/attack in a row or something? i coulda sworn that happened.
In post 146, Bub Bidderskins wrote:<snip>
This is exactly the kind of reactive/defensive argument that I would expect from scum. My vote is confirmed.
and this is exactly the large yet contentless post i would expect from scum. christ, how have more people not voted this guy yet???
even though i'm voting you, i can't help but second this. instead of saying his ISO sucks, you (RadiantCowbells, in case it is not clear) should do one of him (shouldn't be hard at this point) and show us why.
In post 149, Generic wrote:I never cleared you on experience. I was analysing the stupid insta clear of bub without reasons attached, and an arogant experienced player such as yourself would do that sort if thing and assume that's fine. Or would I be wrong there and you are indeed scum white knighting or getting a teammate town credit?
i don't know what to make of this post or of Generic in general.
In post 150, absta101 wrote:@Alabaska
absta, did you realize my initial FoS was a joke? why the immediate jump off of me after you posted so urgently to get more votes on me around page 3?
No I didn't recognise the un-seriousness of your FoS.
I wanted more votes on you for pressure iirc.
seems a bit early for pressure, but that is common enough around here it satisfies me. thanks for the clarification.
In post 151, absta101 wrote:Why wouldn't you vote NTP here? FoSs' are useless imo. A vote would've created real pressure and possibly some reactions that we could've worked with. The FoS seems to be more useful for scum that want to see how people react to their suspicions on someone.
Do you FoS a lot in your other games? Do you do it as scum as well?
i think i already addressed this, but it was a bit early for a vote in my opinion. i didn't feel ready to put one down; i wanted to make sure he answered me though. i do FoS a lot as both scum and town. unfortunately, i'm making a return after a multi-year sabbatical so it would be harder to meta me and my approach has surely changed a bit in my absence, so you'll have to sort of take me for granted; i DID fos in older games though, so if you can find them they should confirm this. i feel as though i've fos'd quite a bit in this game, though i've done it a lot in the other game i am playing (ongoing, can't link you i don't think i don't remember the exact site rules on this) so i may be getting them confused. i don't see how fosing is a scumtell, although it is clear we have different opinions on the tactic. i see it as a good gauge for how i felt about someone at a point in time and it can be quicker for me to look back and recall my general feeling towards someone without having to reread all of their posts to remember how i thought about them. they also tend to be in posts replying directly to things (usually isolated, but they can be little things adding up) so i can pinpoint the information that creates said feelings easier as well.
In post 152, absta101 wrote:@Alabaska
wow. so a lot of people have picked up basically on what i thought about DCL's post
No one picked it up from you... I got the impression when I read it.
you misunderstand me. i meant that people had already addressed what i saw before i could. the wording
is
ambiguous now that i read it again.
In post 152, absta101 wrote:why the immediate jump off of me after you posted so urgently to get more votes on me around page 3?
All I said was "more votes on Alabaska". How is that urgent?
how is that
not
urgent? it was like the first post on page 3, dude. we had barely left RVS.
In post 152, absta101 wrote:summary: FoS: DCL, yessiree
Omg! Fuck this, you're back in my scum pile.
Your vote is on Bub who you seem to not really talk about/get people to vote him. You say that DCL's post is very suspicions/scummy (major red flag) and then you just end it with a FoS on her. You're playing it too safe to be town.
obviously most of your case seems to stem from differing opinions on how to use an FoS in a game, so i see it as pretty flimsy and subjective. if i see one person as the most scummy, and see other people being scummy but not as scummy as the person i am voting is continually acting, what should i do? votehop every other post??? again, i use the fos as a marker of sorts to let myself know that i felt so-and-so was scummy at this time. i think bub is scummier than DCL and yessiree, but that is not a reason to not point out when the other two do stuff that sets off my scumdar. i'm curious, do you just votehop constantly the minute someone else does something scummy? you say me and DCL are both good votes; by your logic you should vote both of us since you think we are scummy (obviously impossible, but this demonstrates how absurd i find your argument).
i don't think you are scummy, just misguided. its obvious we have different points of view on a fundamental part of the game, so we may inevitably have to agree to disagree, but you are basically putting together a poor case based on my playstyle. i suggest you strongly consider the points i have made here, since i think i have elucidated why your argument is flawed and hopefully you can move on.
