Mini 1463 (it has shitty jokes) over

[Alabaska J]

also, i'm more ok with Kid A's vote on levio than DCL's, if people are wondering why i'm not picking on both of them. seems much more honest than DCL's odd pseudo-mentoring post where he all of a sudden votes levio out of the blue. Kid A finally decides to sprinkle some more logic to his post there.

[NotThePope]

I might be being unfair to NTP but I really am hating this idea that two people can play as a single role in mafia. The posts from them so far have been a little too erratic and I have reasons to concern myself early.

JESUS
VOTE: yessiree
We need to give this guy more attention.
- TIP

[yessiree]

^you can't be cool like me

[Alabaska J]

I might be being unfair to NTP but I really am hating this idea that two people can play as a single role in mafia. The posts from them so far have been a little too erratic and I have reasons to concern myself early.

JESUS
VOTE: yessiree
We need to give this guy more attention.
- TIP

i like the other head better. (s)he gives quality posts instead of barking orders


also Generic, please stfu about the hydra thing. they're here, they're queer, they're not goin anywheer

[Om of the Nom]

2)Om, I'm not about to read your slot as "just what you've posted" I don't care if you're two seperate entities or not, you have the same role and alignment so EVERYTHING the slot says should be taken into account for, and I find it scummy you ask me not to read what be did when trying to find your alignment, as well as the fact you "haven't read" what he posted. If you were catching up, wouldnt town want all the context available even about their own slotT?

I don't care about you judging my alignment based on my previous owner. Yeah, that's completely fine (and encouraged). But if you're going to make arguments on things I've said myself, then I'd rather you use my actions only.
Context is a non-issue at this early in the game. Nothing major had happened so what's the point in knowing the whole context? I operate just fine without all the information possible, in fact sometimes it even makes me better at finding scum.

[Om of the Nom]

Om nom person and kid A have been my strongest town reads so far. Om cleared bub in such a closed way it set the alarm off, but how overall read is far too experienced to be so blatant in either white knighting or defending a teammate. He is just the right kind of paranoid I like, in the faces of everyone but not pushing anyone into a corner.

So I'm town because I'm experienced? I mean that really doesn't give any solid reasons to think I'm town.

Biggest scum reads so far are for smudger and NTP. I might be being unfair to NTP but I really am hating this idea that two people can play as a single role in mafia. The posts from them so far have been a little too erratic and I have reasons to concern myself early.

Literally everything here you mentioned is a part of being in a hydra, erratic posting especially. I'd like to know what those other reasons are though.

townread on Om of the Nom for the efforts put in to scum hunt

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VOTE: DCLXVI

In his post 103 for voting levio because levio is "concerned with going with the flow", when levio is just bad. Hence the reason to vote him looks stretched.

This post reeks of easy reasons and no effort. Not to mention that the DCL vote is basically based on his attack on levio, aka it's a chainsaw defense.

[Om of the Nom]

At this point I'm fine with scumreads on NTP and yesiree. Potential scum lies in Generic, RC.
RC is basically a meta read though, I've seen RC-town twice and he seems more passive than both of those times.

Passing Smudger off right now as newbtown, however it's not unlikely to change. Right now I just get the impression that he's unable to produce much new content because of inexperience yet he still wants to participate.

Don't like how everyone is just suddenly jumping onto DCL for his attack on levio.
Everyone not mentioned is probably town.

@absta: What happened to your Alabaska scumread? All of a sudden you stopped voting him and you haven't mentioned him since. Also what is your read on NTP?

[Kid A]

where did twmblwbsj go

radiantcowbells you keep bwing people with little to no reasoning & not making your own cases, IMO you are trying to be unassuming but the lack of good content makes you stick out as scum to me
VOTE: radiantcowbells

[Alabaska J]

I operate just fine without all the information possible, in fact sometimes it even makes me better at finding scum.

not quite sure this statement jives with me. what exactly do you mean here? how would ignoring information help you find scum?

also, maybe you can tell me since NTP still hasn't answered me: what is a chainsaw defense?

[Alabaska J]

where did twmblwbsj go

radiantcowbells you keep bwing people with little to no reasoning & not making your own cases, IMO you are trying to be unassuming but the lack of good content makes you stick out as scum to me
VOTE: radiantcowbells

you do realize how ironic this is, right?

fos: Kid A

[Om of the Nom]

I operate just fine without all the information possible, in fact sometimes it even makes me better at finding scum.

not quite sure this statement jives with me. what exactly do you mean here? how would ignoring information help you find scum?

also, maybe you can tell me since NTP still hasn't answered me: what is a chainsaw defense?

In the past I've replaced into games without reading up on everything and I've still managed to catch scum or just perform well in general.

A chainsaw defense is when person A defends person C by attacking Person B's attack on Person C. Can be used to find buddies but it's not very reliable in that way. It's not the best of scumtells on it's own but it can be used more reliably in context or with other evidence to back it up.

[Kid A]

unvote

absta you know that first FoS was a joke right? i still haven't seen confirmation that you read my post correctly.

also, i don't like jumping to someone before RVS really ends, especially early, since wagons jump out pretty fast (notthepope is at L-2 right now, so a vote by me would have put him at L-1 before i got back to the computer!) and i want to see reactions to my initial points that were made. looking at how people have jumped on notthepope so fast and how empty some of the posts have been as far as reasoning goes, i feel as though there are definitely scum motions behind this wagon and i'm not sure if i'm willing to back it

just

yet, although i have not ruled out an impromptu d1 bus for sure.

upon looking at the latest votecount, i realize my statements on the wagon of notthepope were not accurate. i seem to have misread how often he was voted. because of this, i will look back and consider voting him shortly

what happened to this

give me a full read on ntp pls

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Kid A

ISO sucks elephant dick, voted me with shitty backing.

[Smudger]

In the past I've replaced into games without reading up on everything and I've still managed to catch scum or just perform well in general.

well a pat on the back for you, so how do we know you are town, exactly?

[Smudger]

i also feel as though a few people are jumping on the recent Smudger thing pretty hard *coughbubcough*; almost looks like scum trying to jump off a wagon on one of their buddies at just the right time, if you know what i mean. i also don't like yessiree's 122, as he basically piggybacks smudger's points completely.

am I missing something or did something get lost in the crash, the recent Smudger thing, what is that and what are you actually suggesting?

[Om of the Nom]

In the past I've replaced into games without reading up on everything and I've still managed to catch scum or just perform well in general.

well a pat on the back for you, so how do we know you are town, exactly?

There would be no point in me listing why people should think I'm town because the reasons would be in favor of me regardless of alignment. It's up to you to decide which alignment you think I belong to.

[Kid A]

VOTE: Kid A

ISO sucks elephant dick, voted me with shitty backing.

someone is riled :c

[levio]

where did twmblwbsj go

radiantcowbells you keep bwing people with little to no reasoning & not making your own cases, IMO you are trying to be unassuming but the lack of good content makes you stick out as scum to me
VOTE: radiantcowbells

LoL you just did almost that exact same thing, unless "not making your own cases" counts as a case

[Kid A]

where did twmblwbsj go

radiantcowbells you keep bwing people with little to no reasoning & not making your own cases, IMO you are trying to be unassuming but the lack of good content makes you stick out as scum to me
VOTE: radiantcowbells

Let's get this day moving.

VOTE: NotThePope

where did twmblwbsj go

radiantcowbells you keep bwing people with little to no reasoning & not making your own cases, IMO you are trying to be unassuming but the lack of good content makes you stick out as scum to me
VOTE: radiantcowbells

spot the difference

[Kid A]

oops i quoted it twice so now its spot the odd one out

[Smudger]

the forth one?

[Bub Bidderskins]

Bub, you need to define wishy - washy to me as looking at your contributions you have not said much at all. you have posted 6 times, which includes your vote during RVS and changing your vote to me. OTher than that you really have made no effort to contribute to the game other than a few throw away lines. In fact the biggest post you make is the one above 117 and that is primarily because you quote my post then vote me and add the "wishy washy statement".

lets look at your posts shall we, with the exception of 117 :

I'm attacking them for making a silly FOS, not because it was on you.

Let's get this day moving.

VOTE: NotThePope

And how exactly does this vote get the day moving along? Yes, bandwagons can move the day along, but not just because they exist. You simply jumped onto the bandwagon and did nothing to actually get the game moving. Furthermore, the whole bandwagon on notthepope is stupid because he's most likely town.

@Bud

Furthermore, the whole bandwagon on notthepope is stupid because he's most likely town.

What makes you say that?

He's trying to get discussion moving and is scumhunting. By far the towniest player in the game right now.

As for the FoS, I was being half-serious. Every game I'm in I try to get out of RVS as soon as possible by nitpicking at some tiny thing and making a seemingly serious vote.

No, I do not find that FoS to be an alignment tell in any way. I just wanted to get the game moving.

VOTE: TMTOLBTWNTOF way too many caps man.

on that note,

FoS: DCLXVI

Vote: Alabaska J

The FoS is completely unsubstantiated and useless.

then laughably you warn cowbells you have your eye on him, WOW sterling work sherlock...

This is exactly the kind of reactive/defensive argument that I would expect from scum. My vote is confirmed.

[Bub Bidderskins]

VOTE: Kid A

ISO sucks elephant dick, voted me with shitty backing.

Care to explain why his ISO sucks?

[yessiree]

VOTE: Kid A

ISO sucks elephant dick, voted me with shitty backing.

your ISO sucks even more, jus' sayin'

and you voted on 3 different targets after your first vote on levio

[Generic]

Om nom person and kid A have been my strongest town reads so far. Om cleared bub in such a closed way it set the alarm off, but how overall read is far too experienced to be so blatant in either white knighting or defending a teammate. He is just the right kind of paranoid I like, in the faces of everyone but not pushing anyone into a corner.

So I'm town because I'm experienced? I mean that really doesn't give any solid reasons to think I'm town.

Biggest scum reads so far are for smudger and NTP. I might be being unfair to NTP but I really am hating this idea that two people can play as a single role in mafia. The posts from them so far have been a little too erratic and I have reasons to concern myself early.

Literally everything here you mentioned is a part of being in a hydra, erratic posting especially. I'd like to know what those other reasons are though.

townread on Om of the Nom for the efforts put in to scum hunt

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VOTE: DCLXVI

In his post 103 for voting levio because levio is "concerned with going with the flow", when levio is just bad. Hence the reason to vote him looks stretched.

This post reeks of easy reasons and no effort. Not to mention that the DCL vote is basically based on his attack on levio, aka it's a chainsaw defense.

I never cleared you on experience. I was analysing the stupid insta clear of bub without reasons attached, and an arogant experienced player such as yourself would do that sort if thing and assume that's fine. Or would I be wrong there and you are indeed scum white knighting or getting a teammate town credit?