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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:30 am

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In post 40, Mac wrote:
In post 38, Grimgroove wrote: For Especially The Lies: What you say is true, but from the list of discarded roles, I think Town Roleblocker looks like the most interesting town-aligned role that got discarded. "Interesting" is indeed personal, but I think few will disagree. I find it interesting EspeciallyTheLies immediately starts defending this choice by claiming she (thank you for pointing that out Mac :p) doesn't know how to play that role well. I don't find this a compelling reason.
Yeah I didn't quite get the defence either. could be seen
as an early scum attempt to throw people off the case
but then again it could just be the truth. why would ETL defend against something she wasn't under pressure from?
You answered your own question. But like I said, clarifying a choice is not the problem for me. Even though DrDoLittle and I both have our doubts surrounding EspeciallyTheLies, we have them for different reasons.
In post 38, Grimgroove wrote:As opposed to DrDoLittle I don't find the forcedness a problem: I can see town feeling equally compelled to state a reason for not picking the roleblocker. But I just don't like the reason. There's nothing especially difficult about being a roleblocker. and even if there were, picking the role would provide one with the chance to actually learn some of the mechanics (if there are any) better.
roleblocker is a hell of an annoying role to play because it's easy to manipulate. It's not the worst role for me in the world but I find it frustrating. I discovered this fact in a micro game a month ago when I was a roleblocker and manipulated into lynching town. we lost. :( and again, it come down to a difference of opinion
What does this have to do with the role of roleblocker? You can just as easily be manipulated as a doctor or any other role for that matter. Even as a confirmed sane cop you can still be manipulated, even when you hold extra information.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:32 am

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Votecount
Votecount 1.1


(2)
ChannelDelibird
- TheTrollie, Guyett
(1)
EspeciallyTheLies
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(ChannelDelibird,)
DrDolittle
(1)
JasonWazza
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(ChannelDelibird,)
EspeciallyTheLies
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DrDolittle
- Grimgroove
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Grimgroove
- ChannelDelibird
(0)
Mac
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(Guyett)


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Not voting
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(Grimgroove, ChannelDelibird, Guyett, TheTrollie, EspeciallyTheLies, DrDolittle)
Mac, Cheery Dog, JasonWazza


NOTICE: Due to the site difficulties yesterday, I am extending the deadline by one day. I am also not counting yesterday towards any prods.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

The deadline is July 6, 2013 at 8:05 AM EDT. Countdown to deadline:
(expired on 2013-07-06 08:05:00)
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:36 am

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Roleblocker is a lot like JK. I've had JK twice and fucked it up both times. I dont know how to use it properly, so it makes me feel like I'm just flailing around doing nothing. It doesnt give me any info and I've never JK'd successfully. Doc is a lot like too and probably wouldnt include doc in that list tbh. I like info roles. Hence why I prefer scum roles too, because scum know who the town are. That makes me feel better and gives me a plan of action. As town, day one is sooo... frustrating.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 3:37 am

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@CDB why are you happy with your vote on grim?

@Especially you aren't helping your cause imo...
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:22 am

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I'm being honest. What else am I supposed to say? Someone asked why I don't like roleblockers and asked what the trouble I have with them is; I answered. If you want to use that as a case against me, then that's you're choice. It sounds like that's what you've already decided to do, so... what's the point in continuing with this?
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 4:33 am

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In post 54, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:I'm being honest.
Aren't we all? :mrgreen:

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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:28 pm

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In post 33, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 30, TheTrollie wrote:
In post 26, Cheery Dog wrote:So why didn't you list Guyett?
why the fuck would he have to be scum for discarding werewolf supersaint
Because it has the same logic as me discarding mafia 1-shot vig as far as I'm aware.
nah its very different...supersaint role suks, 1-shot vig is hawt.

also

CONGRATS TO CDB

CDB won a free pass from my vote on Day 1!

UNVOTE:
"scum, scum, scum" went TheTrollie!

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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:29 pm

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VOTE: grimmgrov
"scum, scum, scum" went TheTrollie!

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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:11 pm

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In post 56, TheTrollie wrote:
In post 33, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 30, TheTrollie wrote:
In post 26, Cheery Dog wrote:So why didn't you list Guyett?
why the fuck would he have to be scum for discarding werewolf supersaint
Because it has the same logic as me discarding mafia 1-shot vig as far as I'm aware.
nah its very different..
.supersaint role suks
, 1-shot vig is hawt.

also

CONGRATS TO CDB

CDB won a free pass from my vote on Day 1!

UNVOTE:
Exactly, it is a role that the power only comes into effect when I get lynched and in a game with no certainties that there would be more werewolves it didn't make sense to take it.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:42 pm

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In post 56, TheTrollie wrote:nah its very different...supersaint role suks, 1-shot vig is hawt.
If another 1-shot vig was drawn, they are confirmed town with my discard though.

VOTE: JasonWazza
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 2:38 pm

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putting a vote on another player that isn't even here is pretty pointless. Anways, UNVOTE:

VOTE: Guyett. Tell me, do you regret discarding supersaint?
"the role I chose at the time seemed the most fun but looking back at my decision I think I made the wrong choice lol"
"it is a role that the power only comes into effect when I get lynched and in a game with no certainties that there would be more werewolves it didn't make sense to take it."
IMO That's contradictory. Also, I see only fluffy fluff coming from you.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:30 pm

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In post 60, DrDolittle wrote:putting a vote on another player that isn't even here is pretty pointless. Anways, UNVOTE:

VOTE: Guyett. Tell me, do you regret discarding supersaint?
"the role I chose at the time seemed the most fun but looking back at my decision I think I made the wrong choice lol"
"it is a role that the power only comes into effect when I get lynched and in a game with no certainties that there would be more werewolves it didn't make sense to take it."
IMO That's contradictory. Also, I see only fluffy fluff coming from you.
I said I think I made the wrong choice because the role I picked isn't actually that great. Like Werewolf is a role that allows a faction kill at night time but the power only comes into effect when I get lynched and would have been useless to my win condition if I chose that role. It was effectively just Mafia goon.
The role I chose is quite different, it doesnt have a role that only comes into effect if I get lynched and is pro my winning condition.
Does that make sense?
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:36 pm

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In post 59, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 56, TheTrollie wrote:nah its very different...supersaint role suks, 1-shot vig is hawt.
If another 1-shot vig was drawn, they are confirmed town with my discard though.

VOTE: JasonWazza
What motivation lies behind this vote?
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:42 pm

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In post 62, Grimgroove wrote:What motivation lies behind this vote?
Reasoning for it is that I expect him to have posted by now and the fact he hasn't means I think he may have chosen a scum role.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:46 pm

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You really think inactivity is a scumtell?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:49 pm

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For someone I know to have been active around the site, and without any other leads, a good enough scumtell for my vote as present.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:51 pm

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He hasn't been active on the site for the past day or so, but he should have been in here before then.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:09 pm

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I highly doubt this is alignment indicative. Especially in the starting phase of a game it is very easy to "fake" activity, even when you're scum.
Could you explain why it would make more sense for scum to not post at all right now than for town?
I don't like people voting for those who are simply not around. They're easy targets and smell of policy-votes, and those don't allow anyone to draw any conclusions. It's not a read, it's a very middle-of-the-road thing to do to vote for non-people, and so far, JaszonWazza is a non-person here simply because he has not uttered a single word.
Also, will you simply remove your vote when he does come over?
I don't see any added value in it.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:15 pm

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You can imagine I'm still voting nobody then. That's what I'd be doing if I hadn't voted the person ignoring the game.

Why anyone doesn't post during any stage of a game is a mystery and other than avoiding being caught by not being there in the first place there is no legitimate reason for not being there.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:43 pm

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In post 68, Cheery Dog wrote:That's what I'd be doing if I hadn't voted the person ignoring the game.
Why?
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:48 am

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JasonWazza has been prodded.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:54 am

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In post 61, Guyett wrote: The role I chose is quite different, it doesnt have a role that only comes into effect if I get lynched and is pro my winning condition.
Is that a pro-town winning condition?
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:57 am

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In post 68, Cheery Dog wrote: Why anyone doesn't post during any stage of a game is a mystery and other than avoiding being caught by not being there in the first place there is no legitimate reason for not being there.
I think it's pretty evident that the dude just forgot that there is a game here, I mean with the down-time and all.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:04 am

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@DrD

yep :]
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:13 am

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