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Newbie 1389 Trouble in River City Game Over Scum win

Post Post #0 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:50 pm

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Newbie Setup

Matrix6 (as designed by Cogito Ergo Sum):

ABC
1Town JailkeeperVanilla TownieMafia Goon
2Mafia RoleblockerTown CopTown Doctor
3Town 1-shot
Bulletproof
Mafia GoonTown Tracker

Each Newbie Game will be given a setup that incorporates either one row or one column. The remaining six roles will be filled in by mafia goons and vanilla townies appropriately, to create a 2-mafia and 7-town setup. For example Row 1 (1 jailkeeper, 1 vanilla townie, 1 mafia goon) would add an additional 5 vanilla townies and 1 mafia goon, for a total setup of 1 jailkeeper, 6 vanilla townies, and 2 mafia goons.

*Roleblocker will take precedence over jailkeeper when resolving night actions should that apply.


Spoiler: Sample Role PMs
Vanilla TownieWelcome!

You are a
Vanilla Townie
.

You have no special abilities.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Town JailkeeperWelcome!

You are a
Town Jailkeeper
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills and be prevented from using their own action, if they have one, during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Town CopWelcome!

You are a
Town Cop
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed if they are
Town
or
Mafia
. If you are roleblocked, you will receive no result.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Town DoctorWelcome!

You are a
Town Doctor
.

You may target one player per night phase. This player will be protected from kills during that night phase. You cannot target yourself.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

1-shot Bulletproof TownieWelcome!

You are a
1-shot Bulletproof Townie.


You will survive 1 kill attempt during the game. This does not include lynches.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Town TrackerWelcome!

You are a
Town Tracker
.

You may target one player per night phase. At the end of the night phase, you will be informed what player they targeted with their action, if any.

You win when all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


The game thread is here.

Mafia GoonWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Goon
.

Your partner is PLAYER, who is a
Mafia Goon/Roleblocker
.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You also share a factional QT, located here, which you may talk in during pregame and night phases.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.

Mafia RoleblockerWelcome!

You are a
Mafia Roleblocker
.

Your partner is PLAYER, who is a
Mafia Goon
.

You may target one player per night. This player will be prevented from performing their own action, if any.

You share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill. You may commit the kill and perform a roleblock in the same night phase. You also share a factional QT, located here, which you may talk in during pregame and night phases.

You win when the Town has been eliminated, or nothing can stop this from occurring.


The game thread is here.
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Post Post #1 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:54 pm

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Rule set

Game Rules (Taken from NS, Modified from Zorblag, who modified them from Vel-Rahn Koon):



General Gameplay and Etiquette:
1. You may not quote private Moderator-supplied information (either real or fabricated) of any kind. Paraphrasing (for role claims, etc.) is acceptable.
2. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings unless your role PM specifically allows it. Mafia members may communicate at night and during the confirmation stage.
3. If you have a role with a Night action your choices are due to me by the posted deadline. If I do not receive your choice via PM by the posted deadline you will forfeit your actions.
4. Roles with Night actions will not be able to submit an action on Night 0 (i.e. during the confirmation stage).
5. Any player with a Night action may instead submit a “No Action” PM to let the Mod know that you do not want to perform your expected action that Night phase.
6. As a general rule you should aim for one post every 48 hours, minimum, to keep the game moving.

Voting, Deadlines, and Player Death:
1. A simple majority of all living members must agree on one person for a lynch to occur prior to deadline.
2. Once you have reached a simple majority no further unvoting will change someone’s fate.
3. Once a player is lynched the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; all players including the one who was lynched may continue to post during twilight.
4. Please submit votes as:
Vote: PlayerName
or VOTE: PlayerName (on a separate line or they will not be counted). Votes will NOT be counted if they are not bold! Obvious abbreviations or nicknames will be counted so long as they are unambiguous.
5. Please submit vote revocations as either Unvote: PlayerName or Unvote. Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
6. You may Vote: No Lynch - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a lynch.
7. This game will have 2 week deadlines. At deadline, the player (or No Lynch) with the most votes will be lynched. In the case of a tie, the tie breaker will be the player who has the first active vote on them. Should there be no active votes at deadline no one will be lynched.

Miscellaneous/Mechanics:
1
Bold, blue text
. is reserved for the Mod. No invisible/small text is allowed, nor is cryptography.
2. If you have an issue/problem with the game, please PM the Mod privately. Do not post issues/complaints in the game thread.
3. The Mod may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently. Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed. These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
4. Please bold all requests to the Mod so that they don’t get missed.
5. Prods of missing players will be issued automatically after 72 hours of no activity or upon request after 48 hours of no activity. A prodded player has 48 hours to respond or risks replacement. A player who has been prodded 3 times is subject to replacement without further notice.
6. Rule violations will be dealt with according to their severity, up to and including a Modkill.
7. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period please post a notice to that effect in the thread. Treat this game as a commitment. Be considerate – don’t leave us hanging.


The Golden Rule:

Please remember that this is a game and your main objective is to have fun! Be considerate of each other, don’t get personal, and enjoy the game.
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Post Post #2 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:57 pm

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Player List

Lynx_Shine*

likeabauss

Kueshina*
TheIrishPope

cAPSLOCK
Grimgroove

sikon327

Morthas
(SE)
TheTrollie

imkingdavid (SE)
Cheery Dog

JasonWazza (SE)

fferyllt (IC)




Bolded means confirmed
* means the ol' Cattle Prod




Alive

Lynx_Shine
TheIrishPope
TheTrollie
JasonWazza
fferyllt



Struck by Mage Lightning (Modkilled)
Spoiler:
Hopefully None




Here be bodies
Spoiler:
likeabauss
Vanilla Townie
was lynched on Day 1.
sikon327
Town Tracker
was killed on Night 1.
Cheery Dog
Vanilla Townie
was lynched on Day 2
Grimgroove
Vanilla Townie
was killed on Night 2
.
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Post Post #3 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:17 pm

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Role PMs going out now, then will unlock the thread for confirmations. Game will begin when I have 7 of 9 confirmations..... Rach


Role PMs are out please confirm in thread.... Rach
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Post Post #4 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:49 pm

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confirm

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Post Post #5 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:50 pm

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/confirm
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Post Post #6 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:54 pm

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/confirm
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Post Post #7 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:04 pm

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/confirm
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Post Post #8 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:04 pm

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/confirm
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Post Post #9 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:12 pm

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/confirm
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Post Post #10 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:28 pm

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/confirm

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Post Post #11 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:44 pm

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/confirm

And the game "started" the second Capslock confirmed.

VOTE: cAPSLOCK


Cause you didn't RVS in the first post of the game :P
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Post Post #12 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:59 pm

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You should vote me, then, because I never RVS.
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Post Post #13 (ISO) » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:48 pm

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In post 11, JasonWazza wrote:/confirm

And the game "started" the second Capslock confirmed.

VOTE: cAPSLOCK


Cause you didn't RVS in the first post of the game :P
Perhaps its a common thing here to do that? I am new to the site but not to the game. That's most likely never gonna be my style though.
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Post Post #14 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:22 am

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Well would you look at that? It's my scum day! Four years ago today I made the decision to never trust anyone ever again. :shifty:

VOTE: Kueshina

Last to confirm. Obvscum. Die.

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btw fferyllt - lacking RVS, what is your plan for starting Day 1? RQS?
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Post Post #15 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:27 am

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imking, how is she last to confirm if she never confirmed?

She may never confirm making you scum.

Also a lot of people will be against RVSing (not meaning it's productive to not RVS) just because, and sit around doing nothing.
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Post Post #16 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:29 am

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Erm nvm apparently i can't skim a page effectively.

Read the above as "She may never confirm making me scum"
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Post Post #17 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:39 am

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fferyllt wrote:You should vote me, then, because I never RVS.
Well, if the IC tells me to, it must be a good idea!

VOTE: fferyllt
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Post Post #18 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:12 am

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Jason, I don't like your newbie-biting. If you expect all newbies to both do enough reading to know that mafiascum games start with an RVS and to notice that their confirmation is the one that starts the game, you're going to be disappointed a lot. However, this seems likely to be a nulltell rather than a scumtell.

david, I was in bed when my role pm arrived, and checking mafiascum is not the first thing I do when I get up. Besides, wouldn't it make sense for the last people to confirm to be the people with the least exciting roles, e.g. Vanilla Townie? (Not that I'm saying what role I am, except that I win with the town)
I'll VOTE: Vote:imkingdavid because this seems like bad logic.
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Post Post #19 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:23 am

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In post 18, Kueshina wrote: david, I was in bed when my role pm arrived, and checking mafiascum is not the first thing I do when I get up. Besides, wouldn't it make sense for the last people to confirm to be the people with the least exciting roles, e.g. Vanilla Townie? (Not that I'm saying what role I am, except that I win with the town)
I'll VOTE: Vote:imkingdavid because this seems like bad logic.
No because scum have reason not to confirm (if 7/9 confirm game starts so unless all townies confirm then the game won't start)

But ever since that was used everyone just confirms straight up, but that is the logic of it.
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Post Post #20 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:23 am

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Also i expect Newbies to at least read some of
1
Game, it's not that hard.
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Post Post #21 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:45 am

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In post 14, imkingdavid wrote:Well would you look at that? It's my scum day! Four years ago today I made the decision to never trust anyone ever again. :shifty:

VOTE: Kueshina

Last to confirm. Obvscum. Die.

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btw fferyllt - lacking RVS, what is your plan for starting Day 1? RQS?
Day 1s always start fine without me RVSing.
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Post Post #22 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:45 am

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In post 18, Kueshina wrote:Jason, I don't like your newbie-biting. If you expect all newbies to both do enough reading to know that mafiascum games start with an RVS and to notice that their confirmation is the one that starts the game, you're going to be disappointed a lot. However, this seems likely to be a nulltell rather than a scumtell.

david, I was in bed when my role pm arrived, and checking mafiascum is not the first thing I do when I get up. Besides, wouldn't it make sense for the last people to confirm to be the people with the least exciting roles, e.g. Vanilla Townie? (Not that I'm saying what role I am, except that I win with the town)
I'll VOTE: Vote:imkingdavid because this seems like bad logic.
This post causes me to think Kueshina leans town, simply because if he weren't, he would probably have known that mafia can talk during setup and wouldn't have found "stalling = mafia" to be quite so questionable as a reason to cast a random vote. Granted, his eagerness to assure us that he wins with the town could be thought of as off-putting, but I'm willing to assume this is innocent coming from one of the newbies for now. Of course, I think his scumread on imkingdavid is... misguided. He seems null to me.
In post 21, fferyllt wrote:Day 1s always start fine without me RVSing.
The thing is, though, that RVS is a way to start discussion and allow players to develop reads earlier, right? It seems to me that creating a meta of "does not RVS" simply allows you to escape scrutiny on those occasions when you
are
assigned scum, and RVSing may prove hazardous to you.

Then again, what do I know? I'm just a newbie.

Also: I am not actually accusing you of
being
scum just yet, I obviously don't have a read on you. My vote is still an RVS vote.
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Post Post #23 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:50 am

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In post 15, JasonWazza wrote:She may never confirm making you scum.
Ohh, I called Kueshina a "he" in my post. Sorry if that's erroneous.
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Post Post #24 (ISO) » Thu Jun 13, 2013 4:53 am

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In post 22, sikon327 wrote:The thing is, though, that RVS is a way to start discussion and allow players to develop reads earlier, right? It seems to me that creating a meta of "does not RVS" simply allows you to escape scrutiny on those occasions when you are assigned scum, and RVSing may prove hazardous to you.
It does the exact opposite of allowing me to escape scrutiny. Not RVSing on a site where RVS pretty much default draws attention. Usually what ensues is a discussion of why/why not RVS and a bandwagon on either me or someone who objects to my not voting ending RVS early.

And that's all good, because it's not RVS itself that provides reads. It's whatever ends RVS, why and whom it involves that gives people material for reads.

Some folks think that there's a tendency for scum to put a "random" vote down on a partner during RVS because it's some minor distancing, and votes for no reason seem easier to take back than votes that come with a case.
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