The Fortnight (Game Over)

[MattP]

Would a scum win be beneficial do you guys think? I want a public vote on this one

Also I am not going to be saying anything productive in this post

I am also town so suck my cock [:

[MattP]

Would a scum win be beneficial do you guys think?

elaborate pls

How did this even happen

[MattP]

I actually think KidA is just a 5 year old

I think you're probably scum though

How does that make you feel?

[MattP]

FTR Benmage is a very good scumplayer

pedit: Kanye you're wrong suck my dick I'm not scared of your shitty antics because I'm town

Wow look how townie I'm being

pedit2: Fuck this computer

[MattP]

Kanye bbyboi I would like to send you personal love letter that lets you know that if you think you're being CUTE and AUDACIOUS and OUTTA THE BOX scum right now I will:

A: never be your whore
B: it's cute when you try to

do

things [:

[MattP]

I'm like 150% town this is one of those times where the next thing you do with determine your fate so let that marinate big boy

[MattP]

VOTE: kanye

I'm "blustering" because you have NO reason to be playing this way against me

Look a pg 3 drama vote me or kanye or you're a bitch

He's never like this when town, he's acting negligent of how well he knows my meta and his faked confusion rather than biting the bullet and unvoting means death

He knows this isn't me scum. I AM a flaily infuriated arrogant fuck only as town only and he's being cute about it

[MattP]

Anyone that's played with me for a hot second ever knows I'm town

[MattP]

Why the fuck are you saying I'm being OVERDRAMATIC? It's page fucking three, we need something to talk about and you think it's WEIRD I'm creating tension?

God you use your brain when you're town you're not even trying to be inventive you're just fucked and confused

[MattP]

Kuribo, quack mafia you always forget

[MattP]

Ur so cool and chill

Everyone is so gonna townread u now ^5 #nevergetslyncheddayone

[MattP]

Why did everyone magically disappear since this started

[MattP]

Calmness beats crazy every time

You're prob gonna win this kanye good job you're a pro I'm so excited to see benmage continue to ignore the shit out of this

[MattP]

I've never been scum

Also ur meta knowledge is gonna be really helpful because meta is a totally legitimate form of Scumhunting

[MattP]

Lol

[MattP]

Kanye that wasn't even a good attempt

Subtlety please

[MattP]

Kid A you're town so your input is no longer needed ty just vote fOr kanye because I'm rising star which is an award given to the best scumhunter and then sit down

[MattP]

IF ANYONE COMES IN AND HAS THE AUDACITY TO SAY "zomg this is town v town lets move on!" I WILL VOTE THE FUCKING SHIT OUT OF YOU I DON'T CARE IF YOUR LYNCH THROWS THE GAME YOURE NOT BEING CUTE OR PRODUCTIVE OR TOWNY YOURE BEING A BITCH SO KINDLY PROVIDE AN OPINION THAT CANT FIT IN A FORTUNE COOKIE

Pedit: CES buddy boy why the vote I want a case dear

[MattP]

CES you're so hyper aware it's why you're such a valuable asset

[MattP]

I like how kanye Sherpa my kid a read to manipulate him Lololol

[MattP]

Sheeps*

[MattP]

Kid A the reason you don't do that is because it gives people like Bbmolla a freebie

[MattP]

My posting restriction is that if I don't investigate scum day two I lose

[MattP]

I like how molla does exactly what I said not to do

[MattP]

No you're the exception because you're the one person that would intentionally do things to get lynched as town to throw the game

[MattP]

DGB and CES are pretty bad but there can only be two scum and that's kanye and kanye

Pedit: what kanye said

[MattP]

So you think I'm scum then

[MattP]

Ok but bullshit aside

[MattP]

VOTE: DGB

[MattP]

It would have been better if you waited to post Kid A I was obviously on that train of thought and was trying to get her in a sticky situation, you made it too forward

[MattP]

Kanye and I set up reaction tests like its our job

[MattP]

Ftr I'm sry about the rising star comment I was being funny

[MattP]

Blame it on kid a for votin CES

He's such a newb!!

[MattP]

Kuribo pull it together Jesus

[MattP]

Aaaand this is why it was bad that you interrupted me Kid

[MattP]

DGB is scum I've played enough games with her to know when she's scum ty

[MattP]

We are scum sluts

[MattP]

Kuribo, master detective in action

[MattP]

Kanye is town Im positive

[MattP]

Greygnarl pls read them ty

[MattP]

I'm more concerned about the quantity opposed to quality posts. You only have to look at MattP/Kanye little spat to see an example of 100% quantity, 0% quality.

This is only a towntell because of myko's 50p game

Town:
Kid A
Kanye
MrMattyP
TBone
BBmolla

ONAROLL

[MattP]

Kuribo is also being p towny

[MattP]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p4048616

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4050384

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p4050459

[MattP]

Should I be threatened because I'm not one of your exalted townreads? What you did is not indicative of alignment....it's just not indicative of anything and we'd be better off (and 1 and 1/2 pages shorter) with out it.

Because of the way this game is set up, I think it's extremely important you don't just shit all over your keyboard and call it a post. Let's say the scum are the few players who haven't posted yet? Guess what if the game ended right now they won, because no one suspects them.

Are you referring to me? Lolwtf?

[MattP]

T-bone has a bizarre conception of what games should be

But it's ok

[MattP]

KEEP IN MIND THAT L-1 IS PRACTICALLY L-0 BECAUSE IF THE "SCUMMIER" SCUMBUDDY ISNT YET ON THE WAGON THEY CAN HAMMER, GET KILLED AND LEAVE US IN A FUCKED UP SITUATION

[MattP]

If we lynch scum d1 we win dude

Great, but dont ride a wagon up to L-1 to see how a person reacts.

[MattP]

TBone just bitches in games instead of providing content and then is a hypocrite

It's sexy

[MattP]

Also, I don't usually think OMGUS is scummy, but when I do, it's under the conditions that players like MattP do it.

What was OMGUSy I'd love to hear it mate

[MattP]

Kuribo he just alphabetized it

[MattP]

I feel like Benmage is town

[MattP]

VOTE: DGB

This happens immediately after DGB said you were either tasered or scum. There's no reasoning for it, and this is around the same time if not after the whole 'I'm such a good scum hunter, I won a scummy!' and 'why am I not listed town?' posts.

You're not as nakedly on the wagon as the last two votes, including the man who just jumped off after asking for explanations/pressure; but you're still scummy.

All of this post is terrible

And I'm not explaining why

Someone else can

[MattP]

Posts like this are stupid. They dont deserve time, and I appreciate scumDGB acting like she's got your back but ok let's explain why this is a dumb post

This happens immediately after DGB said you were either tasered or scum. There's no reasoning for it, and this is around the same time if not after the whole 'I'm such a good scum hunter, I won a scummy!' and 'why am I not listed town?' posts.

You're not as nakedly on the wagon as the last two votes, including the man who just jumped off after asking for explanations/pressure; but you're still scummy.

1) No reasoning for my vote? Maybe it's because DGB's bullshit taser comment was irrelevant, the main point was she was practically calling me scum but was fencesitting at the same time and was very happy to make me sound scummy and bad as fuck in the 1v1 with kanye while simultaneously distancing herself from a decision? And she was unwilling to approach the situation seriously, and went back to her joke about tasering when I asked for a serious opinion, because she was blatantly circumventing the issue we both knew I was approaching, which was her lack of vote and unwillingness to outright call me scum while dancing around on the idea of it.

DGB plays like a schizophrenic when she's town, she throws out bizarre theories and conclusions matter of fact and tries to dominate the town leader role. Here she is tiptoeing around on half scumreads in a part of the game she is fully aware is when we are trying to catapult ourselves into discussion. She's not a shitty player, and her play has been fluffy, noncommittal, and not active towards any goal

2) I explicitly said the rising star comment was a joke, it was directed at kanye because at that point I knew he was part of the reaction test and we were both obviously trying to start a fake 1v1 so I made a few ridiculous statements for the fun of it. I stated this more briefy immediately after I said it was a reaction test

3) The "why am I not town to you kanye" posts were completely strategic, kanye knows my townplay and I know how to show him I'm town. I played the cards that would make him townread, and he even said I passed with flying colors so obviously there is something you're not aware of. Kanye and I have hydrad and have played together a bunch, we know each other's playstyles, and GUESS WHAT we've NEVER been wrong about each other's alignments since hydraing and I can link you to shit. Everything I was initially doing was to get kanye on my side, and his reactions made me positive he was town. If you don't want to lose you should never touch either of us unless you think we're BOTH scum would is a laughable notion

4) Your post was ignorant and dumb

[MattP]

I didnt say it wasnt but for 2 it was explicitly stated why I said the rising star thing and for 3 I'm saying that you're dumb in general

[MattP]

Matt how many times have you played with town DGB other than First Time?

37 games

[MattP]

Matt's 284 reads as bullshit cuz he should know that Ghostlin is trying to scumhunt but doesn't know how to do it.

Not related to your vote.

Lol yeah stupidity is acceptable from a stupid person because they're stupid

Mmm good logic you're playing a towny game right now with your proactive statements and opinions

[MattP]

No it doesn't matter how many times I've played with DGB regardless I'm usually not right with her but it doesn't mean her posts aren't objectively bad

[MattP]

Probably five times

[MattP]

I don't think questions like "how many times have you played with DGB" are helpful

[MattP]

I'm in a bad mood in RL right now so I'm being offensive just disregard me

[MattP]

I've never played with him before how can I assume a 2008 joined player is naturally fail

[MattP]

Well I'm calling ghosting stupid left and right which is counterproductive so I'd suggest he not take it to heart

[MattP]

You are just being unnecessarily insulting and not helping to foster discussion and that makes me think you're scum

[MattP]

Oo I wanna hear what you thought of anyway even though it was wrong quil

[MattP]

Yes but I still wanna see what you saw even if it was nothin

[MattP]

Yeah we don't have time for this I don't care if he's only been gone for 24 hours id like day one over by eight days in

[MattP]

We don't want day one to end being disoriented and not having time to reground yourself and test reactions to the flip and scum kill

[MattP]

Kanye I meant when scum kill one of their teammates

I'm not THAT dumb

[MattP]

Ftr oversoul is scummy as fuck what do you think kanye

[MattP]

GIF is such a dumb vote, voting players that HAVENT EVEN POSTED YET isnt cute or effective, if he doesnt post then he'll be replace, there is obviously some sort of deadline

[MattP]

How come you didn't bring this up before?

Because I've been jacking off for the past 24 hours straight

[MattP]

GIF have you been reading the thread this whole time?

[MattP]

If anyone talks to GIF until I'm done talking to him or even references him I'm going to be very upset

[MattP]

So what exactly was your thought process when you said "I haven't been reading this thread at all \o/" to "CES lacks content I have to ISO him"

[MattP]

when you thought*

[MattP]

Erm I thought I said I need to meta research him.
I posted that after I looked at his ISO.

Why did you look at his ISO, why did you come to a thread you've read nothing of, ISO CES and make the post you made.

[MattP]

a thread you've READ nothing of****

[MattP]

Why did you only start posting after people started complaining about your inactivty / voting you, 20+ pages in the game?

[MattP]

Answer my question first ty [:

[MattP]

Oh. I somehow missed that.

You missed that you had people complaining about your / voting you or you missed it was 20 pgs into the game?

[MattP]

Meh. MattP you ought to give GIF a chance to express his thoughts, otherwise you'll corner him into a strictly defensive position that will taint our reading of the slot.

I'm almost done asking questions

[MattP]

Your question.
It didn't notify me when I posted.

o so can you please answer it ty

[MattP]

Got it.

Ok, I believe that GIF wasn't lurking, so noone should give him shit about not posting until now.

[MattP]

I'm also pretty confident he's town but that's for obscure reasons

[MattP]

Because every time I try to get a read of someone while "keeping my cards hidden" some jerk has to come in and go "HEY GUYINFREEZER YOURE LYING YOU WERENT REALLY IGNORING THE THREAD"

I wanted to see if I could get a good response from you and then I tried slipping you up with the "why didnt you post when people were voting for you" to see if yo'd acknowledge you knew people were voting for you, which means you would have lied about not reading the thread but all your responses matched your story

Also the responses were just in general towny.

[MattP]

VOTE: Greygnarl

Good point kanye

[MattP]

I have you as a legitimate scumread. I just didn't really consider you until Kkb voted you

This isn't a reaction test babe

[MattP]

I'm ready for this day to end p much

[MattP]

We can prolong it as much as necessary (barring past day 8) but GG is getting lynched

[MattP]

lol

[MattP]

IMO being self-aware of reaction tests and such is not town 4 me. However, last time I lynched someone with that, he flipped town.

Idk what this means but ilu dont even try to re-explain [: <3

[MattP]

Kuribo is obviously town quil his calmness is actually reason to be comfortable with that

Also ghostlin I don't like you're demoting a wagon on someone that just had a panic attack because of three votes on hin

[MattP]

By everyone you mean one person ghostlin??

Also what does that have to do with Greys reaction

[MattP]

I'm down to seven lil suspects

Spoiler: GG is #1 most scummy scumfuck

[MattP]

is drippinggoofbone meant to be CES in that post or what

...

OS does it hurt your feelings that kanye and I are an in-thread mason team or is it does T-bone and DGB that upset you because they're pressuring you

[MattP]

is drippinggoofbone meant to be CES in that post or what

...

OS does it hurt your feelings that kanye and I are an in-thread mason team or is it does T-bone and DGB that upset you because they're pressuring you

This was me, and let me edit it to say "or is it JUST T-bone..."

[MattP]

Every game there is a player that thinks that it's ok to be difficult because they feel arrogant about their town status

It's actually a terrible strategy especially in this setup.

However, I don't think this is a substantial scumtell, and I can show plenty of links of people doing it, including myself (once, and I'd never do it again)

Anyway just as it is a terrible strategy to do it in this setup, it's a terrible strategy to punish him for it in this setup.

[MattP]

You did? I haven't read much since page ~19 or something.

Jesus Christ.

Unvote.

Vote: OS

This is the worst vote of the entire game so far

And I'm now piecing together a Ghostlin/GreyGnarl scumteam

[MattP]

If people don't see that vote as histrionic, out-of-left-field, and opportunistic they're wrong and should feel bad.

[MattP]

VOTE: Ghostlin

I'm actually more confident of this than GreyGnarl even though they're the same team

[MattP]

LOL

[MattP]

At both of those posts

God I love being right

[MattP]

kanye how confident are you that you can read matt?

Why did you even post this shit

[MattP]

OMG the fact that GG and Ghostlin are being ignored at this point given GG's response to his wagon and then asking his question in 762 and then immediately voting Venmar and going on a completely different conspiracy theory, as well as Ghostlin's hilarious shit of a 763 post as well as his OS post is

B
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[MattP]

First off there isn't a wagon on me. Next, I asked a question in 762 and I'm still waiting for an answer; I think you're town but I'm not as sure as everyone else. As for the Venmar thing, I'm prettys ure that if he is scum it's gonna be his buddy who flees, and those to look pretty bad. Unless Oversoul is town like I thought but apparently everyone else thinks he is scum.

Also, if you think that I set up that abuse of Ghostlin in a scum QT then that is retarded.

Why are you basing all your reads off of other people's opinions exactly?

And why would you not abuse Ghostlin to distance yourself when two other people already were abusing him? It wasn't like you abusing him would have been revolutionary

[MattP]

Kuribo please give your opinions of Ghostlin and GG and try to be fair babe

[MattP]

You're also asking kanye how well he can read me Greygnarl as if it really matters what his answer is I don't get why you're relying on others seemingly to form your own reads

Kuribo on phone I'll respond to you later I just went to central park WITHOUT a computer so I stop replying to this damn game so help me god I will get work done today or I will die

[MattP]

pedit: yes kuribo

this is a further scumclaim and was intentionally stated in a ballsy attempt to look town by saying something scummy in a self assured way

[MattP]

You SERIOUSLY don't think scum would try to pull that off nonchalantly because it looks SO brazen it HAS to be town, benmage
Like seriously

I'm so fucking fine with a Greygnarl or ghostlin lynch choose one IDGAF

[MattP]

VOTE: greygnarl

[MattP]

Grey has sheeped multiple reads, flipped out about the wagon on him, claimed he did the opposite and actually was apathetic to garner an artificial townread when he DID freak out (and he said the artificial townread explanation because it was a gambit to make him look to forward and brazen to be scum), and he used his rudeness towards ghostlin as an immediate reason to claim they weren't scum together which means he Obviously had acted that way to distance himself from ghostlin and is now trying to use it to his advantage with WIFOM

IT IS SO DAMN OBVIOUS

[MattP]

Oversoul is the low hanging fruit, NOT fucking grey

Double iso grey and ghost

Pedit: I'd tell you to have your partner coach you grey but your partner is doing just as bad as you are

[MattP]

Kuribo when ghostlin and kid a are voting or planning to vote oversoul for not reading ten pages he is hanging lower than an elderly mans testicles

[MattP]

VOTE: Jacob

That's all you have after lurking for 5 pages?

And this is all you have 30+ pages in in regard to leads?

[MattP]

Townread on benmage goes out the fucking window

WHOOOOOSH

We are not lynching by page forty and losing what the absolute fuck

[MattP]

"IT'S PAGE FORTY IT'S TIME TO LYNCH OVERSOUL DISCUSSION MUST END BY PAGE FORTY"

I vote that our "deadline" is DAY ten since we don't apparently have discussion after that

[MattP]

We have had MULTIPLE new wagons in the past ten pages

This game isn't over, we aren't nearly well enough informed yet to make a decision and I was to be right the first time

Speeding to a lynch negligent of the circumstance is crappy and destroys any town cohesiveness we have for a sloppy qucklynch that will leave us disoriented

I have a suggestion. That is, I'm going to think about a town bloc to try to up cohesiveness and I'm going to think about thIngs we need to do before this day is up. On that list is to get something out of CES who has done shit and is getting away with it

[MattP]

I'm feeling better about benmage again

I will say this. If we don't lynch GG he will flee. And when he flees I was be absolutely livid that you made me lose the game.

[MattP]

Nobody's strongest read is CES, ever.

I can back this shit up

I also think it's a shitty strong scumread in theory, even though I think CES has been useless this game

But on page 40 if the best you can do it

that

there's something wrong as shit

[MattP]

I PRESENT TO YOU, THE TOWN:

DrippingGoofball
Cogito Ergo Sum
Ghostlin
kuribo
Kid A
MattP
Quilford
T-Bone
Venmar

UNDER EVALUATION AS TOWNIES:

Kanyeknowsbest > tiny bit of doubt still, but prob-town.

HANGING WITH THE WRONG CROWD:

greygnarl > light on content, difficult to gauge.
Benmage > he's playing suicidally. Not sure if trolling.

THE SCUM, FOR YOUR WEIGHING AND CONSIDERATION:

GuyInFreezer > read of game still incomplete? Suspicious stalling.
Oversoul > awkward rewriting history is BS judging by content and timing, admissions of trolling, etc.
JacobSavage > I made case a few pages back. Feels sorry for difficult scum wincon.
BBMolla > caught for "wrong reasons" in #378.

I actually agree Ghostlin is town by this point but I do not want to acknowledge his existence for the remainder of the game

KKB is simply disinterested in the game since the DGB wagon died down. I felt the same way, I identify, I just got over it.

stop holding greygnarl's hand, he's been avoiding the thread and has not been able to get back into the flow of it since the pressure on him. He is completely and thoroughly fucking up left and right.

Your GIF reason better just be pressure

Benmage is being way too honestly humble and humane to be scum

My BB townread is probably gone by this point

I pretty much approve of DGB's list in a broad sense

pedit: I have NEVER explicitly said how I feel about you OS. And it's because my input right now regarding you is completely unneeded and I'd prefer to seem ambiguous. You don't really need my read on you, do you?

[MattP]

If it hasn't been evident I haven't been calling people scum UNLESS I have intent to vote them. I'd rather be playing my cards under the table for this game

[MattP]

As should the rest of you.

[MattP]

[: Chipper up

[MattP]

When did I EVER say OS was scum for being difficult? I pretty much said it should not be taken into account

But good job Sherlock

[MattP]

When did I EVER say OS was scum for being difficult? I pretty much said it should not be taken into account

But good job Sherlock

I can't fucking deal with hydra accounts for the life of me

I should use different browsers

[MattP]

I want to see your case Venmar

[MattP]

• Benmage
• DrippingGoofball
• Kanyeknowsbest
• kuribo
• MattP
• Quilford

Hey guys

These 6 players are obviously town and obviously good. Can all 6 of us work together and get some shit did? I don't even exactly know what I want "did", but can we all just hold hands and be productive, and get over the Benmage hate?

[MattP]

Can someone remind me why Kid A is town? I've literally forgotten and just need to remember

[MattP]

Yeah looking back over him that's not legitimate come 40 pages in

Maybe for a quick townread early game

We should not be disregarding him so quickly

[MattP]

BBmolla you're doing that thing where you are being antitown

[MattP]

Like spare me a misplaced scumread in a 16p game with 2 scum and only one lynch

Save my scumreads for actual scum

[MattP]

Yes I didn't like that exact post as well on my super skim

pedit: You're town but you're making me doubt it every other page for no reason, just like put two hours into the game and point out some things I wouldn't have thought of so I know that you don't secretly know who the scumteam is

[MattP]

I have 8 ABSOPOSITIVE townreads that I don't mind sharing because they're definitely not scum and will definitely not screw me over if we mislynch today and we have to deal with strategic scum fleeing:

• Benmage
• DrippingGoofball
• Ghostlin
• Kanyeknowsbest
• kuribo
• MattP
• Quilford
• T-Bone

pedit: I absolutely believe Molla's most recent post. He's town in my book.

• Benmage
• DrippingGoofball
• Ghostlin
• Kanyeknowsbest
• kuribo
• MattP
• Quilford
• T-Bone
• BBMolla

This leaves

• Cogito Ergo Sum
• greygnarl
• GuyInFreezer
• JacobSavage
• Kid A
• Oversoul
• Venmar

These aren't all scumreads, they are anyone I wouldn't feel comfortable betting 1000 dollars on town status on right now.

[MattP]

my pre-invitation said mafia lovers and afaik lovers always have daytalk so thats why i thought scum had daytalk

quick look at the op confirmed it

Holy shit this is total Bullshit

[MattP]

ask anyone who pre-inned

What does this mean?

[MattP]

BB, I am suspicious of DGB's stiffness with the OS wagon and it reminds me a lot of her play in gay mafia where she was the SK but her reads seem thoughtful and it seems she is doing other scumhunting besides OS

[MattP]

Kid A

I want to make sure I understand the play-by-play

You're saying that things happened in this order:

1) BBmolla was not responding / was being silent
2) You thought this was suspicious so you checked your role PM to see if scum had daytalk. You saw they did
3) You came back to thread and stated that the silence probably meant he was running to his QT

Tell me if I'm mistaken

[MattP]

Where the fuck did you go

[MattP]

You didn't check your "role pm", you checked the "pre-invite" and the OP. So you did the following:

1) BBmolla was not responding / was being silent
2) You thought this was suspicious so you checked yourpre-invite PM and the OP to see if scum had daytalk. You saw they did
3) You came back to thread and stated that the silence probably meant he was running to his QT

[MattP]

If you don't answer in the next three minutes you're so fucking done

[MattP]

THIS IS MY EXACT QUESTION TO YOU:

DID YOU CHECK IF SCUM HAVE DAYTALK BEFORE OR AFTER YOU THOUGHT BBMOLLA WAS BEING SILENT

[MattP]

DGB PLEASE STAY OUT OF THIS

[MattP]

I don't fucking believe you

VOTE: Kid A

There is NO fucking way you would have CHECKED to see if there was daytalk before making that post and after BBmolla was silent, there is NO WAY you said "hmmmm well molla is being really quiet lemme check to see if there is daytalk b/c that would mean molla is not responding b/c he's daytalkin it up"

I assumed you made that post to taunt Molla, you're deliberately overjustifying a completely arbitrary post because you think you have to because we called you out of it, that is completely absolutely scummy

If you SERIOUSLY doublechecked if there was daytalk before you made that throwaway post that is the most moronic thought process I've ever heard

I call bluff

[MattP]

No, you see, no it does NOT have to make sense, you didn't have to make sure scum ACTUALLY had daytalk to make that taunting post, you're LYING, you already knew scum had daytalk and you're pretending you researched it to make it seem like you DIDNT know because you wanted to make it seem like you DIDNT already have knowledge of the daytalk

You specifically overjustified in this specific situation to overcompensate for the fact that as scum your would have already known this

[MattP]

The train of thought is a little winded, DGB, but dig through the layers

A newb that wants to seem like they're not scum would want to make it seem they don't have knowledge about the scumteam not available to us

Kid A overjustified to make it seem like he only knew scum had daytalk because he researched before posting from material available to town as well. This doesn't work because noone would actually research that shit before making the 1 sentence throwaway post Kid A had made. It doesn't make sense for him to be "extra safe" before accusing someone of running to their QT in a post they admit was just for the sake of taunting

[MattP]

The ONLY reason he would have to overjustify is if he is covering the knowledge he already has. If you ACTUALLY believehe did that research, as town, before the ~6 word post he made to BBmolla then great. But there is NO way you could believe that. Otherwise he is lying. And this is a DECISIVELY scum-aligned lie

[MattP]

anyway im not going anywhere tonight on account of me being town so if you want to waste your accuse on me tomorrow go ahead, as long as im not most accused it doesnt mean shit

in the meantime i need someone whos less dumb than me to explain their ces read

THIS

IS

A

SCUMCLAIM

THIS

IS

ACKNOWLEDGMENT

OF

BEING

SCUM

[MattP]

Ghostlin, Kid A did NOT check that information before posting to BBmolla. He is lying, vote him for fuck sake

[MattP]

This is a sealed game

DONE

Just fucking end it

[MattP]

if im scum accuse me tomorrow but id rather not get lynched today for obvious reasons

YEAH OK LOOK AT THE COACHING

[MattP]

1) We dont lynch Kid A
2) He flees
3) TADA

[MattP]

so anyone got a decent read on ces because i need that

DO YOU SEE THIS ATTEMPT TO DERAIL THE DISCUSSION ON HIM

THIS IS FUCKING HILARIOUS

ITS SO PATHETIC

[MattP]

by all means talk about how scummy i am i just genuinely need a ces read to get shit done

Lolol suddenly for the first time all game Kid A is monstrously determined to get a read on another player but he simultaneously legit doesnt care that I have a scumread on him

[MattP]

You've done the most scummy thing all game, decisively

This isn't going to be "just another wagon" that comes and goes

This is going to be the final wagon

You are going to be lynched today

pedit: this is when people should be voting Kid A, if it wasn't clear

[MattP]

I _checked_ after the silence and before that post

I _assumed_ before because I knew the game was lovers

Matt this makes logical sense.... You can say you don't believe it... but outside of that there's nothing concrete here.

As far as I'm understanding it, Kid A was going along under the impression that scum had daytalk... he notices a lull in BBmolla's activity, *lightbulb* goes off that he might simply be using his his QT. Kid A checks his theory to confirm that scum do have day talk, and makes his inquiry.

Am I right?(kida)

You're making a thought progression seem logical that no human being would go through before making a taunting, 6 word throwaway post to another player

Him ignoring me and looking ridiculous since my accusation is gravy

If you dont see scum right now that's crazy

[MattP]

How did this get by early game

[MattP]

lalalalalalala

leeleeleeleeeleee

blllblblllblbll

[:

[MattP]

I'm just sittin back sippin a bear ;o

[MattP]

kuribo how did you now there was a scum qt wtf

[MattP]

well fuck im scum

[MattP]

I don't like your defense of Kid A it's very moronic in logic

[MattP]

If it's OS/Kid A I'd chortle

[MattP]

he's not trying hard enough to convince me he's apathetic town.

The irony

[MattP]

There was no defense. That was AtE at its finest. Or, the 'I get that feel, bro', defense.

Yeah but it sucked anyway

[MattP]

I think Kid A is a townie who assumed, like I did, that there was a scum QT.

When attacked about it he felt cornered and invented an explanation for it.

God

[MattP]

Oversoul vs DGB

A fight to be Kid A's scumbuddy

[MattP]

I think Kid A is a townie who assumed, like I did, that there was a scum QT.

When attacked about it he felt cornered and invented an explanation for it.

You dont think he would have said that by now? He's dug himself into SUCH a grave

Why are you stretching so far to defend him

[MattP]

OS is town

[MattP]

Not that it matters because the lynchee is already decided

[MattP]

What a fucking surprise ^

?

[MattP]

So far there has not been even ONE acceptable reason people have used not to vote Kid A

pedit: And look at this attempt to change the direction of the game

[MattP]

I really don't like the timing of that vote AT ALL in reference to the kid wagon

[MattP]

DGB literally you and Matt were in the First Time game with Venmar
His play is very similar as it is here

He does this blatant stuff all the time
It is just like BBmolla and how he does blatant shit all the time too

Am I voting Venmar right now?

No, I'm voting Kid A

As should you

This day is over

[MattP]

No she won't

DGB doesn't listen to people in mafia games

[MattP]

Before any hammering we should have people give their valuable input like kanye ty remember that L-1 is practically as good as hammering

[MattP]

It's much more likely scum is off than on this wagon given the participants

[MattP]

At first I was like eh he's a newb tone swings are probably him trying to fit in

What do you think about his continued insistence on someone to give CES read when I was calling Kid out, and then Kid's random JS before anyone even got back to him about CES? Would you call this flailing, and would you say it's scummy

[MattP]

If I'm wrong you call all assault me for sucking come endgame

I frankly dont give a fuck

[MattP]

can all*

[MattP]

I never explicitly stated DGB is his partner

[MattP]

thats why im asking.

Why do you want to know

[MattP]

but I'd like him to give an paragraph on each player first.

Why?

If you think dgb is the other scum

What? I wasn't asking you anything, I was talking to KKB

[MattP]

like i said, i got some reservations on kid a scum. i like the angle youre pushing but im trying to decide if his over elaboration is due to scum or due to him being an inexperienced overeager player (like i initially read him). given the nature of the game im supplementing in partner speculation to aid me w. this.

Anyone that has been hesitant to call kid a scum has made me exceedingly paranoid. This includes Venmar, Oversoul, DGB and you. However, Venmar and OS fixed it when they voted.

I just know if Kid A is scum then scum know they are fucked and they have no choice other than to call for drastic measures such as defending and trying to push the wagon elsewhere, even if it means it significantly reduces their chances of making it through the accusation stage should they manage to get a mislynch through and have kid a flee. It's between a 0% chance of winning or a, say, 5% chance and the 5% chance would win.

I think that DGB being so quick to arbitrarily write off Kid A's behavior as "sure he's lying but it's a town thing to do" and then placing two votes on other players looks like she's flailing but is trying to hide it behind her coolness. I think right now Kid A's most likely partner out of those who have spoken recently is DGB. These players:

CES
MattP
Venmar
OS
BBmolla
Ghostlin
Kuribo

Are definitely not scum with Kid A

[MattP]

Kid A was receiving votes at a really fast pace. He could have been hammered within the hour. The scumbuddy if present would HAVE to try to halt the wagon, they would absolutely not stand idle like CES did. DGB's actions make more sense as a sumbuddy

[MattP]

Why have you been lurking

[MattP]

Here's something:

If you don't lynch Kid A and he fless YOU WILL NEVER LIVE IT DOWN

[MattP]

Unvote

[MattP]

Unvote

What are you doing? This entire wagon was you pressuring Kid A and how he flailed. I didn't agree with how you did it with your reasoning, but wiggling off the wagon for a reason...wtf, dude.

I see no personal benefit in responding to posts like this

[MattP]

He's at L2. JS is actually posting content unlike before. I'd like to not prevent some growth of a player?

[MattP]

Except he's town but nice try

[MattP]

P sure that jacob is town just flustered by kanye

SHOW ME A SINGLE EXAMPLE OF JACOBSAVAGE BEING FLUSTERED SO THAT I DONT VOTE YOUR MOTHERFUCKING ASS RIGHT NOW FOR THAT POST

[MattP]

Sometimes I wonder why you don't follow my reads Mattp. GG is quite obviously scum..

Preeetty sure I was on GG until Kid A

Pretty sure

[MattP]

Sometimes I wonder why you don't follow my reads Mattp. GG is quite obviously scum..

Preeetty sure I was on GG until Kid A

Pretty sure

[MattP]

VOTE: Greygnarl

[MattP]

Venmar, vote GG

[MattP]

Please everyone notice Greygnarl has been using the card "I suck" after every scumt thing he does. Everything he does is scummy. HIs card is up

[MattP]

Like every time we ask him a question about something scummy he's done he doesn't even answer the question and defend his actions he just says he sucks

[MattP]

Please everyone notice Greygnarl has been using the card "I suck" after every scumt thing he does. Everything he does is scummy. HIs card is up

Thanks, cuz when I explain what I do you lay into me for being to self-aware.

Answer what I asked you about JS

Matt, oversoul played that card too

It's different

[MattP]

Hey guys I had two finals today on a fucking Saturday and my computer crashed last night

Life is great

I'll try to get on tonight but no promises until tomorrow I know its inconvenient as all hell

[MattP]

If Greygnarl isn't lynched I'm going to scream