The Fortnight (Game Over)

[Benmage]

Nobody's strongest read is CES, ever.

[MattP]

Nobody's strongest read is CES, ever.

I can back this shit up

I also think it's a shitty strong scumread in theory, even though I think CES has been useless this game

But on page 40 if the best you can do it

that

there's something wrong as shit

[Oversoul]

Am I town to you or not Matt?

It seems like every time you discuss me I am town then scum then town then scum then town

[MattP]

I PRESENT TO YOU, THE TOWN:

DrippingGoofball
Cogito Ergo Sum
Ghostlin
kuribo
Kid A
MattP
Quilford
T-Bone
Venmar

UNDER EVALUATION AS TOWNIES:

Kanyeknowsbest > tiny bit of doubt still, but prob-town.

HANGING WITH THE WRONG CROWD:

greygnarl > light on content, difficult to gauge.
Benmage > he's playing suicidally. Not sure if trolling.

THE SCUM, FOR YOUR WEIGHING AND CONSIDERATION:

GuyInFreezer > read of game still incomplete? Suspicious stalling.
Oversoul > awkward rewriting history is BS judging by content and timing, admissions of trolling, etc.
JacobSavage > I made case a few pages back. Feels sorry for difficult scum wincon.
BBMolla > caught for "wrong reasons" in #378.

I actually agree Ghostlin is town by this point but I do not want to acknowledge his existence for the remainder of the game

KKB is simply disinterested in the game since the DGB wagon died down. I felt the same way, I identify, I just got over it.

stop holding greygnarl's hand, he's been avoiding the thread and has not been able to get back into the flow of it since the pressure on him. He is completely and thoroughly fucking up left and right.

Your GIF reason better just be pressure

Benmage is being way too honestly humble and humane to be scum

My BB townread is probably gone by this point

I pretty much approve of DGB's list in a broad sense

pedit: I have NEVER explicitly said how I feel about you OS. And it's because my input right now regarding you is completely unneeded and I'd prefer to seem ambiguous. You don't really need my read on you, do you?

[MattP]

If it hasn't been evident I haven't been calling people scum UNLESS I have intent to vote them. I'd rather be playing my cards under the table for this game

[MattP]

As should the rest of you.

[Oversoul]

pedit: I have NEVER explicitly said how I feel about you OS. And it's because my input right now regarding you is completely unneeded and I'd prefer to seem ambiguous. You don't really need my read on you, do you?

No I don't.

But this part of your post irks me so fucking much and it isn't even your fault to be honest.

---

I'm just gonna leave this game for awhile to clear my head and hopefully not scream

[Oversoul]

If it hasn't been evident I haven't been calling people scum UNLESS I have intent to vote them. I'd rather be playing my cards under the table for this game

I just want to shoot myself right now

[MattP]

[: Chipper up

[kuribo]

Nobody's strongest read is CES, ever.

I can back this shit up

I also think it's a shitty strong scumread in theory, even though I think CES has been useless this game

But on page 40 if the best you can do it

that

there's something wrong as shit

Revolution Mafia. My strongest scumread was the CES / Regfan hydra Concision.

to be fair, it was his pushes on SpyreX and Fate that tipped me off in that game.

[T-Bone]

No no no. If we're going to hold OS to the standard that he's scum for keeping things to himself we're almost certainly holding you to that standard Matt.

[kuribo]

Thats not why OS is scum, TBone

[T-Bone]

It's not, but it is something we've been yelling at him about.

[kuribo]

No my issue with him isnt the secrecy. Though as i said, its not helpful.

my issue is secrecy excused by trolling and an apparent agenda of being chaotic

[MattP]

When did I EVER say OS was scum for being difficult? I pretty much said it should not be taken into account

But good job Sherlock

[MattP]

When did I EVER say OS was scum for being difficult? I pretty much said it should not be taken into account

But good job Sherlock

I can't fucking deal with hydra accounts for the life of me

I should use different browsers

[T-Bone]

Maybe I didn't articulate what I wanted to say correctly.

[GuyInFreezer]

um why am i not on that list?

I'm guessing lot of ppl pointed out on this one.

Oversoul WTF are you doing. Ghostlin is trying to play mafia but he just isn't as good as everyone else in this game.

Matt should actually know that so I don't know why he is all upset. Kind of makes him seem scum but everybody seems to read him as town.

You are voting Ghostlin. Ghostlin's suck reasoning=/=scum because he is not as good at mafia as he thinks he is.

Matt's 284 reads as bullshit cuz he should know that Ghostlin is trying to scumhunt but doesn't know how to do it.

Not related to your vote.

Weird mixture of WKing and even discrediting of some sort of Ghostlin.

VOTE: dgb

Pretty sure at least one of DGB Tbone is scum. Might be both.

I believe ppl have asked you to elaborate this and you never answered it.

I actively try to look like I am not worried about votes on me as both alignments so that is null.

pedit: cuz of the fact that someone said dgb is distracting and gonna flee and Venmar is playing the sheep game.

I'm just quoting this as a reminder to myself to confirm this statement via meta research.

Why are you pushing a lynch on people for sucking when we only have one lynch?

So people who are sucking can't be scum?

[Kid A]

greygnarl explain your scumread on venmar because it looks to me like youre still pushing the scum-lurker read from a while back even though it doesnt apply to him anymore

[Ghostlin]

Ghostlin, you're forgetting: what if both scum have garnered a lot of suspicion? there may not be a stronger scum player.

That would be good, because out of today's wagons it'll be about choosing the right one. We only need to get one of the two scum to win.

conversely, the possibility exists that neither scum is a weak link

This would suck. Honestly, DGB/Benmage, for example, are, at this point, generally thought to be town, and if they're not, it'd make tomorrow interesting.

I feel we have to stick to conventional methods of scumhunting at some point, otherwise we're random mass-guessing.

[zoraster]

Day 1

BBMolla ( 1 )

T-Bone

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(L - 8 )

Benmage ( 0 )

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(L - 9 )

Cogito Ergo Sum ( 2 )

Oversoul

benmage

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(L - 7 )

DrippingGoofball ( 0 )

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(L - 9 )

Ghostlin ( 1 )

JacobSavage

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(L - 8 )

greygnarl ( 5 )

kanyeknowsbest

Venmar

Kid A

MattP

BBMolla

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(L - 4 )

GuyInFreezer ( 0 )

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(L - 9 )

JacobSavage ( 3 )

DrippingGoofball

greygnarl

GuyInFreezer

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(L - 6 )

Kanyeknowsbest ( 1 )

Quilford

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(L - 8 )

Kid A ( 0 )

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(L - 9 )

kuribo ( 0 )

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(L - 9 )

MattP ( 0 )

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(L - 9 )

Oversoul ( 3 )

kuribo

Cogito Ergo Sum

Ghostlin

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(L - 6 )

Quilford ( 0 )

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(L - 9 )

T-Bone ( 0 )

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(L - 9 )

Venmar ( 0 )

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(L - 9 )

Not Voting ( 0 )

Total Votes ( 16 )

Needed to Lynch [ 9 ]

GAME Deadline: May 17th at 15:00 EDT
(expired on 2013-05-17 15:00:00)

[kuribo]

I feel we have to stick to conventional methods of scumhunting at some point, otherwise we're random mass-guessing.

I agree, which is why I believe today to be the most pivotal point--- As long as both scum are still in the game, we have more potential information to gather before one of them skips town and ruins any chance of associative reading going forward.

[Benmage]

@MOD

I don't think this was reflected in the last two VC's:

unvote vote CES

Fixed in the latest one, sorry -Zor

[Venmar]

Why are you pushing a lynch on people for sucking when we only have one lynch?

This is extremely hypocritical by the way considering me "sucking" is one of GreyGnarl's pivoting reasons for why I am scum.

[Benmage]

Why are you pushing a lynch on people for sucking when we only have one lynch?

This is extremely hypocritical by the way considering me "sucking" is one of GreyGnarl's pivoting reasons for why I am scum.

Why do you care if he reads you as scum?