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Post Post #2425 (ISO) » Tue Apr 16, 2013 9:52 am

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Ok. I made my comment because of the fact I played an high tier aggro deck that has consistently shown up and got ROFL stomped every single round I played in due to the deck that was across of me and some mistakes I made. People can play aggro and be perfectly fine but in the major tournaments like Star City and Grand Prix. You will see less aggro decks in top 8 than say your local TCG Player Bronze/Silver event. As I top 8'ed in the Silver event that was being held there while I loss horribly in the main event. You run into less Aristocrats, Junk Rites, and Reanimator.

Hell I'd argue that more newer players will run aggro over the decks I named because they take a lot more skill than Aggro.
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Post Post #2426 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:36 am

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http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdat ... =0&limit=8

That event looks pretty competiti-WHAT IS THAT 50% OF THE TOP 8 IS AGGRO?

Nah

Nah my biased eyes must just be playing tricks on me right.

I could also mention going 5-0 for first place at FNM but obviously its not as credible and you'd just have to take my word for it that I beat UWr, Junk rites, and Esper (as well as 2 Naya blitz-the only aggro deck Shea respects-because of their horrid inconsistency).

So yeah I'll stick with the link
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Post Post #2427 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:47 am

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I just played gr aggro, and I liked it so much I traded for the deck on the spot.

aggro IS a viable archetype. so is control. you cannot dismiss one archetype based on words of a "pro". the only thing that can do that is results of tournaments.
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Post Post #2428 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:05 am

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Klazam you're ruining the me vs. the world vibe here

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Post Post #2429 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:46 am

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Post Post #2430 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 7:54 am

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I wouldn't say that straight aggro is completely unviable, just that the meta right now is very anti-aggro (owing mostly to the success of aggro right when GTC came out. Watch when DGM comes out, aggro will be big. It always is after a set release until the meta shifts to accomodate it)
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Post Post #2431 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:00 am

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I took 2nd at FNM with RDW playing against an Unexpected Results deck, GW Humans, Gruul Midrange, and Junk Rites. It's viable.
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Post Post #2432 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:05 am

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Aggro in a FNM esque enviorment is completely Viable, I am just saying in Major Tournaments.

And Yes Fate, I saw the WMCQ Decklists.
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Post Post #2433 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 9:31 am

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In post 2431, xRECKONERx wrote:I took 2nd at FNM with RDW playing against an Unexpected Results deck, GW Humans, Gruul Midrange, and Junk Rites. It's viable.
And I've taken 5-0 for weeks playing OmniDoor. FNM Viable =/= Competitive successful
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Post Post #2434 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:36 pm

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So you saw them and...?

You and Bv decide to comment on FNM instead which I've already admitted wasn't a good basis for the case was just an extra fuck you added on to the pile?

"So look at how well Aggro did at a competitive tournament. Also I did really well at FNM even though I know thats not enough its just icing"

"FNM wins =/= competitive successful"

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Post Post #2435 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:37 pm

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In the End Fate, Did Aggro win the Event? No. It didn't.


Wait until Dragon's Maze comes out, Aggro will be Viable for the first Month before everything becomes accoustomed to it.
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Post Post #2436 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:39 pm

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Rofl...

Mono Red got 1st at a SCG event awhile back, I just wasn't in the mood to post it in this thread because I figured shit like this would happen.

Your argument keeps changing

"Aggro doesn't place well enough in any event, its unviable as fuck. 20% in the top 16 where more than 40% horseshit numbers HERPDERP played aggro probably?"

"Oh Aggro made up 50% of the top 8? Well it DIDNT WIN did it?"

I seriously can't believe you just posted that.
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Post Post #2437 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:41 pm

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You still think of aggro as just this oversimplified archetype that turns things sideways and can only win with luckdraws?

And that once the aggro "figures dem out" the meta stabilizes and aggro is UNVIALBE AGAIN HOOOOOO.

You're regurgitating shit that you've probably been fed your entire life of playing magic, refusing to change or to see new sets and metas in a different light. In your mind, since it was true in the past, aggro is NEVER viable except MAYBE during the first month of a new meta.

Like aggro is literally incapable of evolving decklists and angles of attack as a meta progresses.

The irony of me being called "narrow minded"

its just now seeping in

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Post Post #2438 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:55 pm

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Fate, Chill the Fuck out for one goddamn minute. MY DECK THAT I PLAY COMPETITIVELY IS AGGRO.
I know what Aggro has to do to win, and I know how it can lose. I'm getting my Expenses towards Local Major Tournaments paid for. So I am aware of everything that will happen. Which is why when I play in the Next TCG Platinum event that is coming to Texas, I will be playing Aggro since the Set will have just came out.

You have to be open minded to all possibilities to decks you will face against. The meta surrounding the venue. Like Texas is known for Aggro.

I never said Aggro isn't Incapable to evolving, It's just Aggro has less cards Viable for it since the mana curve is really low.

Unless you are running Jund Aggro, Which has low cost removal in the forms of Tragic Slip, Ultimate Price, Devour Flesh, and Deathrite Shaman against any Reanimator Deck.

Anyways, I am done with this argument.
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Post Post #2439 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 4:59 pm

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so you play a deck that you yourself think isnt viable once the meta becomes "accustomed" to it

i just don't even know anymore

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Post Post #2440 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:13 pm

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Changing Subject, Eggs is dead.
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Post Post #2441 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:19 pm

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As disappointing as it is that wizards made another completely unnecessary banning, even more disappointing is the lack of unbans.
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Post Post #2442 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:26 pm

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so all that hype that drove up that banned jace's price...

Magic market is crashing nao
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Post Post #2443 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:29 pm

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Post Post #2444 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 5:54 pm

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In post 2442, Fate wrote:so all that hype that drove up that banned jace's price...

Magic market is crashing nao
Nah, Jace is creeping upwards because every B&R is going to have random "OMG Jace might get unbanned!" talk. His price didn't deflate at Gatecrash's B&R, it won't now.
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Post Post #2445 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 6:37 pm

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Jaces value is almost entirely legacy and vintage driven...
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Post Post #2446 (ISO) » Sun Apr 21, 2013 8:25 pm

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I wish skylasher was common. Take that flickerstorm and delver!

Oh well. I dont see anything that really looks that exciting in pauper. +5/+5 sorcery speed for 1g, maybe... deputy of acquitals maybe in esper(familiar) storm? I would be quite surprised if it did, actually. Nivix cyclops has a place in weedragonauts, but that's barely a deck. Might be more of one now I guess. Hidden strings is a small possibility as well. Nothing else exciting.
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Post Post #2447 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:21 am

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DGM CARD IMAGE GALLERY

decent/good commons/uncommons after a quick skim:
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- Boros Mastiff
- Lyev Decree
- Wake The Reflections

- Murmuring Phantasm
- Runner's Bane
- Wind Drake

- Rakdos Drake
- Sinister Possession

- Punish The Enemy
- Weapon Surge

- Mending Touch
- Mutant's Prey
- Battering Krasis

- Ascended Lawmage
- Deputy of Acquittals
- Restore the Peace

- Profit & Loss
- Sin Collector
- Tithe Drinker

- Far and Away
- Warped Physique
- Woodlot Crawler

- Blast of Genius
- Nivix Cyclops

- Carnage Gladiator
- Showstopper
- Spike Jester

- Korozda Gorgon
- Putrefy

- Armed & Dangerous
- Gruul War Chant
- Zhur-Taa Druid

- Gleam of Battle
- Viashino Firstblade
- Warleader's Helix

- Bronzebeak Moa
- Trostani's Summoner
- Unflinching Courage

- Beetleform Mage
- Bred For The Hunt
- Krasis Incubation
- Species Gorger
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Post Post #2448 (ISO) » Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:22 am

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Post Post #2449 (ISO) » Tue Apr 23, 2013 3:29 pm

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