Micro : The Cult 2 (Game Over)

[Deltabacon]

For me, Scum is in {PimHel, Freshiscoolman}.

Discuss.

I totally agree - you should vote for PimHel <3

[Kid A]

didnt want to go in to OMGUS territory because I was pretty sure any points I made would be disregarded and everyone would just focus on the fact that I was voting someone who voted me

also now that remembrance has actually posted something with more content to it I think he has a pretty towny way of thinking that didnt come across in the shorter posts (im sure he'll tell me this is buddying though)

so picks for scum are AP, deltabacon and PimHel

[RandomYoshi]

@Bacon: But I'm already voting PimHel.

[Kid A]

also can someone explain why freshmaniscoolman keeps being posted as a scum suspect because im not seeing it

[Remembrance]

Look, Kid. Unvote yourself and vote someone else and investigate them.

[Remembrance]

I'm auto-scumming you if you don't.

[Kid A]

gonna play how i want to thanks

[RandomYoshi]

Kid A, what is your read on AP?

[Remembrance]

@PimHel thoughts on Kid A?

[GuyInFreezer]

also can someone explain why freshmaniscoolman keeps being posted as a scum suspect because im not seeing it

[RandomYoshi]

For me, it's just PoE at this point. I have Rem, GiF and AP as strong Town in my reads. tne is weak Town. Kid A is my only Null-read. Therefore, Freshmaniscoolman and PimHel are the only ones that I am suspecting at the moment.

[Remembrance]

Feel free to put TNE higher up. Probably not the cult leader.

[Remembrance]

Actually, nvm. He hasn't posted enough for me to get a serious read. I think a weaker town read would be better, based on his meta (I just got out of a game with him).

I will be hiding my reads for now, GIF, you should know why.

[Remembrance]

Actually I should probably just explain. Telling others your honest suspicions can lead to manipulation by anti-town alignments (though I think he's going to be a bit more careful about it) It is my playstyle and it's pretty common.

Reads:
Townie:
Gif
Yoshi
Semi-townie:
Delta
TNE
Null:
AP
FreshMan
Culty:
Pim
Kid A

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Kid A

L-1.

[zoraster]

Day 1

AngryPidgeon ( 0 )

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(L - 5 )

Remembrance ( 0 )

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(L - 5 )

Freshmaniscool ( 1 )

thenewearth

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(L - 4 )

Deltabacon ( 2 )

Freshmaniscool

PimHel

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(L - 3 )

GuyInFreezer ( 0 )

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(L - 5 )

*** Kid A ( 4 ) ***

Remembrance

AngryPidgeon

GuyINFreezer

Kid A

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(L - 1 )

PimHel ( 2 )

RandomYoshi

Deltabacon

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(L - 3 )

RandomYoshi ( 0 )

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(L - 5 )

thenewearth ( 0 )

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(L - 5 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

UNAVAILABLE

Not Voting ( 0 )

Total Votes ( 9 )

Needed to Lynch [ 5 ]

Deadline: April 4th at 20:00 EDT

[Remembrance]

You ruined it, Zoraster. Guess you'll have to try a new trick GuyInfreezer.

[GuyInFreezer]

D:
Nooooooooo

[thenewearth]

Zora ruined what? Huh?

Also... Gonna ISO people later. Just got back from forced church (Yeah... parents...)

[AngryPidgeon]

Kid A:

if it proves im town i am happy to put myself at l-1

How the hell does this prove you are town? TNE/GIF were making a dumb joke/trolling and they looked a little town for it anyhow. And you actually think that voting yourself would confirm you as town?

if someone hammers me while im gone and when i inevitably flip town you power roles should have a good clue as to who you need to use said roles on

This is a VT claim?

scum is someone out of AP

nope. I'm town.

Delta:

If he's not scum, then he's a fucking unhelpful townie who needs lynching.

PLing is an absolutely terrible idea when the game can be won D1 with 1 correct lynch. And I don't like the preemptive what-if about Pimhel flipping town - I don't see the motivation behind it if you are so convinced Pimhel is scum.

Defending Kid A.

Ok, Why is defending someone scummy? Town defend townreads all the time. You can't even say defending is a relational tell at this point in the game since there is one scum.

Let's have a look at how many times I've asked Pimhel to supply me with a case, shall we?

Is that a scumtell or just dumbtell?; You admit that Pimhel might be just bad town in your eyes. Most of your case on him is nitpicking parts of his iso and focusing on one (not even that badly) anti-town part of his playstyle. The DB shove on Pimhel feels desperate. I'm not really seeing why town DB is getting so frustrated right now. There is moderate support for Pimhel and it DB himself isn't under much pressure. And ya Kid A is causing a big sideshow with the self vote, but DB doesn't comment on that at all? It was kind of a big thing.

Oh also offering Pimhel a way out of being tunneled was scummy as fuck - is Pimhel scum or isn't he? The only town source for your frustration I can conceive is that people aren't sheeping you onto obvscum Pimhel.

Remembrance:

Why am I not a townread? I feel like we've been on the same wave length up to here anyhow.

Could you give me a quick stream of thought about your Pimhel scumread? Would town ever be manipulative?

Since Kid A is at L-1 I will now actually build a case given what I have.

Why wait until L - 1 to make a case on someone?

Town

AP - Just for you Freshman
RY - Not even reading the game anymore but still chugging along with reads and all that shamelessly; almost definitely town.
GIF - The self voting shindig read really townie. Bit carefree to be scum.
TNE - Feels a bit carefree to be scum. Also joking wrt selfvoting felt town.
Pimhel
Kid A - I think Kid A is town. The claim in 145 was so subconscious - I'm pretty convinced he VT slipped. I'd expect scum to be more upfront and direct with claims too - and I would kind of expect scum to claim PR today since that puts town in an awkward position. Also there is frustration coming with the claim that makes sense from a VT who has no cards up their sleeve to avoid getting lynched.

The "Ok, I want to be conf-town" bit from him was just so bizarre. I want an answer there, but I think he just derped? It was a pretty bold move from scum.
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Freshman - @Kid A: Freshman was/is a PoE read for me. I don't see why anyone thinks he is town.
Remembrance - I don't like him sitting on the fence about me. I don't like that his one serious content/push post comes when KidA is at L - 1 and likely to go down anyways. Why stop trolling and make it only then once KidA is likely going down already?
Delta - His push on Pimhel reads desperate and I don't see why he is so frustrated this game yet still bargaining with Pimhel about whether he'll keep pushing him or not.

Scum

I'm pretty sure scum is in Remembrance, Freshman, Delta. Leaning Delta/Remembrance.

I'll look at some ISOs tomorrow.
p-edit: this is my first Easter away from family. Feels weird. Even in college I was home for Easter.

Also, UNVOTE:

[Deltabacon]

I thjink Punhel is sxum. SHWWP IT.

[AngryPidgeon]

[GuyInFreezer]

Zora ruined what? Huh?

Also... Gonna ISO people later. Just got back from forced church (Yeah... parents...)

My fake derp-hammer for Kid A.

[Remembrance]

I noticed the Vt claim Pidgeon, but you shouldn't have mentioned it. It's anti-town.

1. I am putting pressure on my cult read Pidgeon. I put them where they belong until they do otherwise. Another way of putting this is, PimHel said there is no pressure if we just unvote them at L-1. So when they are put at L-1 I will make a case and let everyone decide whether we should hammer them or not. I even said initially we should wait on the hammer, since there isn't enough. But Kid A has done nothing to rectify my read on him so far.
2. I put you where you are (neutral) because we think similarly. I do not know if this is the case, but I have a feeling you also put a town perspective into you posts when you're cult(or scum) as well. I use a town perspective and make sure to keep consistent in that town perspective when scum. I'm not scum this game. You dropped your read on me too. I just need to figure out why now.

[Remembrance]

Also, if he claimed a PR he might have been auto-lynched. Think about that Pidgeon. You really do belong in the null-pile.