NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[UberNinja]

Trust me, I've done it myself on occasion.

And trust me, I've seen mastin2 do it.

[UberNinja]

I've heard people theorize that unorganized walls are scum product to make people not want to read...

I'm super motivated to find scum all of a sudden.

I just had a burst of energy from something else I won't talk about here, and I want to scumhunt the shit out of every game I'm in.

I'm also uncharacteristically typing with correct punctuation.
Let's pick somebody and scumhunt the shit out of them.

I choose TheReverend. You get to pick the next one, AJ.
We are doing that "work with somebody you think* is scum to find other/actual scum" thing that I like to do, because it helps me get my bearings a lot.

*or, if scum, purport to think, but that's neither here nor there. It works either way

So, ready set go.
Confirmation bias goes out the window, and TheReverend gets a clean slate.

[UberNinja]

Yeah well. It's not stupid.

You go look up Rev's stuff too please.
You've been exceedingly Vifam-ish today, even though that does not to be your normal play style.

Time to contribute.

[UberNinja]

So you want me to help you build a case on reverend, look into him, or find someone I think is scum? I'm guessing option two. I mean, I personally had Reverend as town because it means if Rev is scum, Majiffy gains a lot of town points...

I'll find something on him, starting with the multi-vote hop day 1.

Looking forward to working with you sir.

[UberNinja]

lol vote hopping on day one is a scum tell is it? Jesus you three are clutching at straws now. I smell panic in the air.

yes, we are systematically scumhunting starting with the most suspicious (you) and working our way backwards

that doesn't sound like clutching at straws to me. that sounds like "hey here's the thing i remember about rev"

why do YOU sound like you are panicked now? are you worried about your posts being examined in detail?

Majiffy and AJ seems obvscum to me after their last posts. AJ is all "I had rev as town" but knows full well I was throwing lots of votes around on day one. So if that's a scum tell to him, why did he have me as town in the first place? And if it's not a scum tell, why is he positioning himself to use it against me to justify a rev vote?

"everyone who suspects me is scum! OMGUAS"

And majiffy... the old "scum are keeping me alive for lylo lynch" is bollocks. The same could be said about anyone who is a low value NK for them. Such as me.

why are you a low value NK? if you have the scumteam pegged as you say, and are pretty loud about it, then doesn't that make you a HIGH value NK target?

it's clear why people like ME are not a high value NK for right now. because i have a pretty good scum record, and because i've been getting thigns wrong, and because people DO and WILL CONTINUE to suspect me, until i'm dead and flipped. and honestly i'll probably be the subject of a stupid mislynch based on utter paranoia, before the game is over

BUT, given what you say, you don't have the luxury to be in my status of "high value NK target"

honestly the only reason i'm not dead right now is because i've been wrong as fuck and/or because there are a gajillion PR claims

ninja seems very focussed on me too. What happened to the special town tells I was giving earlier that you wouldn't share with us? Oh yeah, your buddying failed, that's why I'm scum. Of course.

Of course.

no, the 'of course' is, of course i'm 'very focussed' on you too. i've been wrong a fuckton in this game, and we are running out of places for scum to hide, and what better place than to hide in plain sight?

your actions today and throughout the whole game have been consistent:

- you always attack whoever is attacking you, until they stop, then YOU stop too
- you keep saying "hey i'm a townie that's why my reads change at the drop of a hat"
- you do scummy shit and then try to make ppl ignore it & focus on other things

i gave you a pass for it before because "my secret tell" on you was that you were too derpy as fuck and lightning-rod-ish to be scum, but after arcangel flipped i had to think twice about things because she was exactly the same

the more and more i think about it, the more sure i am.

We got this town. It's majiffy ninja AJ and one of dan/IAI. Locked.

i thought you had a town read on AJ just a second ago ...
LOL you lying motherfucker


also, it's p obvious you're just picking popular suspicion targets + people who suspect you.

you are 100% transparent to me

[UberNinja]

doesn't mean i'm not going to go back and rip you apart piece by piece though

[UberNinja]

We should lynch someone. Anyone town on the dan wagon... ask yourself why this IAI wagon is not going through.

THE SAME FUCKING THING APPLIES TO DAN

WHY ARE YOU

NOT

VOTING FOR HIM THEN?

Dan is on L-2 and there's two people currently not voting for him that have shown a willingness to... myself and mollie. That lynch can go through with two town votes. But the IAI lynch is meeting resistance. We have a claimed cop who seems to be stalling at L-2 with no-one else seeming willing to lynch him. This for me is telling.

there are only so many players in the game, and there are always people who, no matter how much evidence they are presented, will not vote a cop, because they have been brainwashed by newbie games that "WE R SUPPOSED 2 PROTECT OUR PRS" is more important than actually finding and lynching scum

fucking PRs are here to protect US, not the other way around. we only keep them around because they're useful

but that's completely irrelevant because of what's transpired today surrounding dan and IAI

one is clearly scum and it's clearly not IAI

IF you're town, look at dan and tell me that's not scum doing exactly what scum would do when investigated JUST when they didn't expect it. also, i choose to refuse to believe IAI is lying today because a) it makes a fuckton of sense to investigate someone who wasn't going to be tampered with, b) it's still 1:1 or 2:1 for him, which is perfectly fine given that HE initiated the suspicion on himself by turning a guilty on matt

HE took the initiative instead of waiting for somebody to come sniff him out

what scum does that, when they are sitting on an un-CC'd cop claim?

none, that's who

There comes a point where myself and mollie need to move onto dan, because otherwise we'll be here all week. I'm not around tomorrow or saturday, so if I'm gonna need to change my vote to save bankable time, it should be done today. So decision time town. Townies on the dan wagon need to consider shifting their vote, and if they're unwilling to, me and mollie need to shift onto dan.

obviously

[UberNinja]

I'm finding it hard to be motivated knowing that scum is keeping me alive for a LYLO lynch.

why are we not lynching this shit

why are we not lynching uber

why

why

why

because i'm town babe

[UberNinja]

okay penguin has me scratching my head now

not because what she's saying doesn't make sense but

[UberNinja]

Vote Mozamis, read his ISO it's pretty funny

Am I supposed to be all WOW and then vote him as I read his ISO?

like this post. challenges a town leader

Also, screw you guys and your constant posting, I'm going to play some poker for an hour or two, I expect a barrage of new posts in that time. Might actually read up later.

don't like this post. feels too forcedly casual

Oh for fuck's sake, he does this stupid scum claim in every game. Can we just lynch him to teach him a lesson?

VOTE: om

this is either townposting or an elaborate bus

VOTE: mollie

First she moans at majiffy for disappearing, like an hour after or whatever after we start, then votes jacob, asking if he's posted yet, which is super easy to check. Lame reasons to wag her finger.

this is good, even though its on conftown

Well this is gonna be easy if boner can tell us who all the townies are.

i don't like this. it's lazy + setting up somebody else to potentially take a fall

Too many votes with no time for reactions? Interesting. My first bitmap vote was up for 5 or 6 pages, my vifam vote wasn't serious, my om vote was me expressing he annoys me with his scum claim shit, I removed my bork vote because he wasn't voting by pm, and now I'm back to bitmap, and he's reacted, by saying I'm more jumpy than usual, no less. Which is bollocks, because this is standard rev on d1.

self meta is useless. don't like this post

Oh jesus why do I join these big games?

Must...motivate... myself...

can someone tl;dr who I should vote for while I make some tea and toast?

more lazy ..at least it looks kinda genuine

Oh he's om

Yeah idk what he's doing

Joined : December 11, 2012
Location: India
Gender: Female

How do you people not immediately see arc is a she from India? I have a boner.

probably one of the funniest posts in the entire game

[UberNinja]

eta:

what does this

mean

i've been meaning to ask

[UberNinja]

ohhh yea makes sense, she's using it like ebwop

and i'm trying to figure out if you're town or scum obviously

because what you say makes sense on the surface in most cases, but it's so ... well-packaged

[UberNinja]

Must...not...make...non-posh joke...

i'm curious to know where you were gonna go with this

[UberNinja]

So then I'm the counter wagon to both wagons, which means scum is trying to get the stronger (Dan) wagon to fall apart by means of distracting from the obvious 1v1.

this! ^

one of IAI or Dan is getting lynched today
i may not get my way on which of them it is (HINT: DAN)

but i'll be DAMNED if a third lynch gets pushed through

we are NOT ignoring the 1v1 here

[UberNinja]

and for that matter i really have no FUCKING idea why anyone is suggesting it

[UberNinja]

Alright, so now tell me.

WHICH are the scum trying to get it to fall apart?
I don't want a quoted vote count. Give me names and whys.

[UberNinja]

sorry, maestro sucks at those

i'll have one up in a moment

[UberNinja]

k

here you go, majiffy

Spoiler:

STFU about my VC regularity

I keel you

[UberNinja]

doing a hard reset

what does this even

mean

uber n majiffy r scum guys

...

ok hard reset lol

...

guys i swear. uber n majiffy r scum

[UberNinja]

but gonna wait for a round of posters

in case anyone somehow caught another scum by roles

etc.

while it's an obvious move, set-up with 3 masons, vig, IC, BG, and cop isn't so unplausible.

actually it is.

We have 3 Conf masons, 1 conf IC, a conf BG and VG. Dan entertains that IaI caught Matt, but is not hammering so someone else can claim a PR result?

And Dan fervently believes that even IAI's claim is fake because of setup, but he dropped that he thought it possible that there was ANOTHER PR?

time to raise the bullshit flag and begin lynching people

who's with me?

[UberNinja]

[UberNinja]

Uber Goober (I had to say it once : P)

Daykill: AngryPidgeon

[UberNinja]

What the absolute actual fuck? Why in the hell am I still alive? Screw you, scum. Screw you hard!!!

WIFOM

p.s. why am I last? i wanna be first!

[UberNinja]

it never sucks to be guaranteed town, that's like the best possible thing for somebody like me

and i'm probably gonna go first anyway if people don't start posting, because i am a rebel like that

[UberNinja]

and there should be two/three scum left. probably three. definitely not more than that, though

if there were four, the game would already be over since there are only eight players left

[UberNinja]

we basically have a 50/50 shot of hitting scum today, because all townies have both you and themselves cleared 100% that means only 6 left, and 3 are scum

[UberNinja]

very well.

how/why do people do the umlaut over the u sometimes?
it creeps me out

so mhork, who do you suspect most and why?

[UberNinja]

That is what I assume as well, which is the only reason I'm not already voting for you.

p-edit: "you" = "Rev"

[UberNinja]

My phone autocorrects to the umlaut.

I trust no reads now, 'cause I was clearly very wrong. Gimme a bit. Who are your top suspects?

Mine? Rev and penguin_alien

[UberNinja]

his read on AJ magically flipped back to town after i called him out on it

[UberNinja]

Just two suspects ninja?

ya uhhhh

Who are your

top

suspects?

only scum tries to make people look scummy for shit like this

Rev is scum

[UberNinja]

okay so let's discuss majiffy then

[UberNinja]

i agree about mhork

so what about rev, penguin_alien and majiffy, vifam?

[UberNinja]

i honestly think very little can convince me that rev and/or penguin are scum

[UberNinja]

*are NOT scum

[UberNinja]

Why Majiffy over Rev, Vifam

[UberNinja]

also, penguin_alien has less posts in the game than Om of the Nom, who replaced out on Day 1

[UberNinja]

honestly think penguin_alien is more likely to be scum given pirate mollie-kill, and mhork being left alive

Oh yeah. Gimme a sec for mass claim list.

Majiffy
Aj the Epic
TheReverend
penguin_alien
Vifam
Borkjkork
UberNinja

There.

also the fact that she's right fucking smack dab in the middle

and has been the same for pretty much everyone, for pretty much the entire game

[UberNinja]

you know what, i don't want to play havoc with majiffy/rev

vote: penguin_alien

[UberNinja]

wait, what? you mean scum reads?

[UberNinja]

VOTE: mozamis

I like the mozamis wagon a touch more than the Bitmap one. mozamis, would you say you generally form town reads quickly?

Aj The Epic, what do you make of TheReverend's explanation for his quickly shifting votes? p-edit: Lord Mhork, what did you think of the explanation?

Sorry mozamis, somehow I confused your early reference to pirate_mollie with a vote. But I appreciate you addressing the question anyways.

UNVOTE: mozamis
VOTE: Lord Mhork

MattP, why do you think anyone should be persuaded by your vote on I Am Innocent without an explanation? Except apparently JacobSavage who is sheeping for no apparent reason. The end of page 37 was really scummy.

UNVOTE: Lord Mhork
VOTE: JacobSavage

I don't love Lord Mhork feeling the need to get affirmation on his belief that wagon jumping is sketchy, but his rationale tracks, so.

I hate ArcAngel9's post. This is not a no-lynch situation, and if there weren't more consistently scummy people, I'd want to rake that stance over the coals.

As it stands, Majiffy's summation of the case is persuasive. I don't want to dismiss JacobSavage, as that wall of reads is horrible when coupled with the fact that he was questioning mozamis to get a read on him, yet the best JacobSavage came up with is null. But TheUnderachivers looks pretty scummy, and I don't think we're going to get a better lynch or much more material to chew over relative to the worth of the bankable deadline, so:

UNVOTE: JacobSavage
VOTE: TheUnderachivers

By my count this is L-1.

VOTE: JacobSavage

Still hasn't provided any content with documented reasons beyond sheeping and conveniently doesn't have chkflip on his last reads post at all.

Wow, drive through a blizzard, settle in to eight pages of zaniness.

My question to those who are positing that I Am Innocent's quick cop claim was scummy: what was the alternative? We're on a bankable deadline, so we don't necessarily have time for a wagon to run up and then get a claim. Regardless, a claim was expected promptly. If he'd refused to answer, he'd have been run up in all likelihood. For I Am Innocent to claim anything other than his (presumed) role would have risked outing another PR and left him stuck claiming truthfully anyways after having been caught out lying. Which wouldn't have helped his eventually being believed anyways. Yes, he could have waited out MattP to see if he was gambiting, but unless they set this up ahead of time and counted on no cop CCing I Am Innocent, again it's a waste of time. There was no reason for MattP to relent on his gambit until he got a result.

Look at that: my conclusion after ten minutes including the time to catch up on the thread. It's not that complicated, and it's not even me in I Am Innocent's position, who presumably has been considering his PR since the game started.

I don't know about MattP, but this doesn't decrease my lousy feelings about those who jumped on the I Am Innocent wagon. Again, I come back to zabriel here. And since JacobSavage seems to have flown the coop for now and Lord Mhork is to be confirmed-town:

VOTE: zabriel

Majiffy - 1: ArcAngel9
I Am Innocent - 2: zabriel, JacobSavage
JacobSavage 4: mozamis, I Am Innocent, UberNinja, Vifam
UberNinja - 2: MattP, PeregrineV
MattP - 3: AJ the epic, pirate mollie, AngryPidgeon
ArcAngel9 - 4: Lord Mhork, Dreams of Grandeur, borkjerfkin, TheReverend
mozamis- 1: Majiffy
zabriel - 1: penguin_alien

is the VC I come up with.

Dreams of Grandeur, I disagree with you on how zabriel's playing based on how I've seen him play, but I don't think that lynch is going anywhere anyways.

I don't like lynching someone on V/LA, so I'm good to put JacobSavage off for now. MattP or ArcAngel9 seem like decent choices, given that we're closing in on a week's worth of bankable time.

UNVOTE: zabriel

I'm torn between supporting the ArcAngel9 lynch or the MattP one. MattP's gambit seems to have zero expected payoff, given that if I Am Innocent had been scum and fake-claimed, it would have necessitated a town PR CC in all likelihood, but ArcAngel9 has been pretty unproductive, and I can see her coasting on the 'only town would have quickhammered!' thing for a while.

VOTE: ArcAngel9

AngryPidgeon, I've seen zabriel lurk as town, and he seemed to be less inclined to throw in excuses and extraneous content then. There's enough to read that's relevant in this 100+ page game without going through posts talking about how stoned he is.

I was thinking about how things would work with pirate mollie giving us two investigation targets, with the unchosen one being held over for the next day to reduce the PoE in scum finding the last mason on their end. I don't know if giving the scum a ballpark to work in offsets not making the last mason conf-town for them though.

I don't love the part in borkjerfkin's ISO where he goes from thinking the only scummy thing I've done is not write off UberNinja's Vifam-grammar theory (here) and has me as one of his top lynch choices a couple pages later (here). And then goes to voting I Am Innocent here. I guess I'm willing to see where this goes.

VOTE: borkjerfkin

JS-scum because AA defends him isn't doing it for me. This smells like a cheap-shot at somebody who has been MIA from the site. Not a fan.

So what is your read on JacobSavage? As someone recently pointed out, even if he's been MIA lately, he was posting before.

11-20 Pages…

Boner list of town is been increased, but haven’t specified reads for it.. but out of nowhere he votes OM and Vifam follows him. That wonders me who is buddying up whom, it’s too easy to see both of them are scum mates, but one of the could be scum… IGMEON Vifam and Boner
Surprisingly Bitmap is slowed down , not sure if he is running away from the attention… And he ends up asking for Day Vig, that was weird but he is being him again which is crazy and confusing all the time.
Peregrine reads town
TheReverend read town
Herobrine leans slight scum
Zabriel is null so far..
Majiffy is pretty much null, not sure if that’s how he normally plays so he is neutral
Mozamis seems bit aggressive in responding

What do you make of the difference between how she treats her nulls? She leaves herself license to change her mind on her read of me and fills her read of Majiffy full of weasel-words and bullshit about ignorance of his meta.

Reposting the full reads list because what I actually find most interesting about this is that she included zabriel at all. Most of the people on the list were either significant topics of discussion or contributing a lot of content up to that point, and I see that least from zabriel. Why bother including him, especially just to say that he's a null read without any elaboration? It doesn't seem worth it to set him up, which makes me think he's a partner and she's forcing including a read on him.

Coupled with his ISO having a lot of throwing things against the wall to see what sticks, like:

This is something that is making me wonder right now. Is Om hiding his partner in plain sight? Or is he setting us up?

where 'his partner' is Bitmap, but zabriel declines to give an opinion.

zabriel hammering ArcAngel9 would be more persuasive if that lynch hadn't been pretty inevitable by that point.

I'm not getting any town vibes from zabriel, and I think he's a better lynch than borkjerfkin. It remains to be seen whether he's a better lynch than JacobSavage, depending on what/if JacobSavage posts after V/LA.

UNVOTE: borkjerfkin

VOTE: zabriel

VOTE: MattP

This is L-1 I believe.

If IAI is town and AD is caught scum, case closed obviously. But let's say IAI is scum. Isn't there a decent shot he's giving us a scum buddy to optimize the team's chances? If we lynch AD and he's scum we believe IAI for most of the game. If we go with IAI as scum, we write AD off as another attempt from IAI to set up a townie and he slides through.

VOTE: ActionDan

UNVOTE: ActionDan

Not sure if we're actually near hammer as someone implied, and I'm not sure enough to see the day end in either lynch yet.

Yeah, I think lynching ActionDan is our best shot.

VOTE: ActionDan

I believe *cough* this is L-1.

VOTE: I Am Innocent

here is her voting history

Mass claim with Lord Mhork calling the order, Y/N?

and here is her asking for a completely useless mass claim

because everybody knows scum will just claim VT

but wants to look useful anyway

[UberNinja]

well look how good your reads have been all game

[UberNinja]

also vifam, why did you stop pushing on rev that one time when he got all flaily? i forget

[UberNinja]

it's not sloppy if she's scum

and how come you didn't say Vifam's vote was sloppy

[UberNinja]

^
^ yea that

[UberNinja]

rev, vote penguin

majiffy, vote penguin

[UberNinja]

she's scum

i have it on good authority that she's scum

and i'm 100% serious

[UberNinja]

p-edit: bork, vote penguin

[UberNinja]

bork, rev, vifam

i'm like 99% sure on penguin_alien

vote her

[UberNinja]

i know "too scummy to be scum" isn't a thing, but "too fucking boneheaded to be scum" is where i'm at with uber.

I think this is where I'm heading with ninja.

I think pidgeon was wrong about bork.

So jiffy and vifam, plus one more. I don't like our chances.

why, what was pigeon saying about bork

that he was scum?

[UberNinja]

UberNinja you're acting retarded dude

how? if penguin is scum, which she is, then why hasn't she been hammered yet?

there are more than enough people online to hammer

unless AJ is scum

[UberNinja]

Not yet. I'd sooner let mhork lead the town.

yeah because his reads are so awesome that they've left an innocent child alive until day 7

granted there were a lot of other PRs to kill, but still come on

they've passed up confirmed townies at least twice since mhork has been outed

if i wasn't the towniest on his list, i would start from the towniest and work backwards

[UberNinja]

My claim turn, I believe. VT.

UberNinja, show me a game where I killed someone as scum for having a scum read on me. Can't link on mobile device, but my scum games are Newbie 1304 (tried and egregiously failed to kill outed PRs), Open 459 (aimed for those with town reads on me and/or PRs and/or universal town reads), and Open 468 (aimed for the likely vig with a town read on me and a scum read of mine). So you trying to make the pirate mollie kill point at me is ridiculous, all the more so for her being confirmed town.

My inclination is to lynch Majiffy, but I want to make absolutely sure we don't miss anything with the mass claim and make sure I can see for myself what everyone's been saying about him being scum.

And UberNinja saying he has it on good authority that I'm scum makes me think he's scum along with Majiffy. But that's to be expected, so.

AH HA

a) you can't prove i have done before hwat you're saying i'm doing now

+

b) my inclination is X, but i want to make sure we don't miss Y, also, i still 100% believe in my massclaim

LOLscum

[UberNinja]

Oh for fuck's sake ninja.

Step 1. Unvote your retarded vote.
Step 2. Read AP's most recent posts.

I'm starting to lean penguin for 3rd scum. That doesn't make your vote any less retarded ninja, because it's MYLO and right now we should be claiming and talking.

Had jiffy claimed yet?

read the above penguin alien post

then vote her

immediately






i won't take no for an answer

if you are her scumbuddy this is your only chance to survive

[UberNinja]

unless you think i'm scum, then penguin_alien is THE lynch for today

majiffy be damned

[UberNinja]

And UberNinja saying he has it on good authority that I'm scum makes me think he's scum along with Majiffy. But that's to be expected, so.

yep

explain this

OH WAIT YOU CAN'T

[UberNinja]

EBWOP: Open 468 was an SK game, hence my aiming for scum reads as scum.

"okay, oops, i have done it before

but only as a certain kind of scum"

[UberNinja]

"seriously, believe meeeee you guys"

[UberNinja]

unvote

for great justice

but penguin_alien is the lynch for today

majiffy is a SMALL outside chance

[UberNinja]

I'm a Mafia Ninja

[UberNinja]

jk, VT

[UberNinja]

I'm saying that his post reads like soft-claiming to have an incriminating result on me, which I know isn't possible. So from my perspective that would make him scum, but I don't expect anyone to think I'd think differently.

Will be back within five hours.

how come you've been only very sporadically posting all game

but then once it looks like you'll be lynched, all of a sudden you're posti--

i stand corrected

[UberNinja]

It's MYLO and your spiraling down to your stupid Five page rants dude

i'm not mastin tyvm

[UberNinja]

Ninja, it's pretty difficult for me to take your reads seriously when not so long ago you were saying you couldn't see me flipping town. So I'll be fucked if I'm lynching penguin on your say so.

i still can't see you flipping town

i think you're scum with P_A hence your refusal to vote for her

[UberNinja]

now that our fucking massclaim is done, we are lynching penguin

anyone who argues gets a scimitar to the scrotum

vote: penguin_alien

if majiffy is bussing, then so much the better

[UberNinja]

4960 actually kinda looks like a town post

but i still think vifam is town

[UberNinja]

okay never mind erase that

it's X and Y, with a possible on Z, A, B, and C

[UberNinja]

i.e.

nope

[UberNinja]

Well, you all forgot about me. But whatever, VT for good measure. Which of course means

about two of us

are lying. I personally believe this is going to be my day to shine, but if you all start hyper-posting, I'm going to get nowhere.

Vote count times are coming, I'm going to put together a bunch of counts. Ninja mine as well be town, otherwise the town was fucked days ago. Which then means of the alive, unless I notice something bad, I'm marking Mhork and Ninja as confirmed town.

i'm touched that you're sucking up to me

really

but nope, i'm not conftown

By the way, how did we manage to lynch AD over IaI ffs?

because AD was playing like shit and IAI had his ducks in a row

get with teh program

[UberNinja]

Well, you all forgot about me. But whatever, VT for good measure. Which of course means

about two of us

are lying. I personally believe this is going to be my day to shine, but if you all start hyper-posting, I'm going to get nowhere.

Vote count times are coming, I'm going to put together a bunch of counts. Ninja mine as well be town, otherwise the town was fucked days ago. Which then means of the alive, unless I notice something bad, I'm marking Mhork and Ninja as confirmed town.

i'm touched that you're sucking up to me

really

but nope, i'm not conftown

By the way, how did we manage to lynch AD over IaI ffs?

because AD was playing like shit and IAI had his ducks in a row

get with teh program

oh yes i almost forgot

define "about two of us"

[UberNinja]

wait since when do you think i'm town?

also, case on penguin_alien is simple: under-the-radar play all game, less posts than a player who replaced out six game days ago, does the whole "make sense and try not to ruffle anyone's feathers" thing, uses mafiascum-isms to try to look popular and easy to agree with, etc, the whole nine yards

also you seem very willing to "give AJ a chance" today
when in reality he should be up p. high on your scumlist for only doing this in what i assume is MYLO

so if you're town, you're really, really bad at this

[UberNinja]

I'm having difficulty following this Vifam-Rev argument, mostly cause I don't really understand 4964.

vote penguin

[UberNinja]

p200 weeeeee

[UberNinja]

can we lynch penguin_alien now

[UberNinja]

because me and vifam are in it

[UberNinja]

no it wasn't

i meant why "about two" instead of "two or three"

because it looks like you're trying to say there's two instead of three

when there's really likely three

and we're really likely in MYLO

[UberNinja]

p200 weeeeee

LOL

[UberNinja]

this is already the biggest large normal of all time, by far

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... arge_Games

[UberNinja]

i have about 3 times as many posts this game as i've ever had before

look what you have done to me vifam

[UberNinja]

can we lynch penguin_alien now

[UberNinja]

to be frank, i think her bussing arc angel at an opportune time was sowing seeds of trust for the future

well that debt is about to be called in, baby

[UberNinja]

UberNinja, show me a game where I'm trying to ruffle anyone's feathers as town. Actually, show me a game where I get in anyone's virtual face beyond what's called for by the nature of making accusations. You keep coming up with these things you say scum-me would do when there is zero evidence to back up the idea that I behave that way as scum and not town. I get that there's a school of thought that scum stay cool more readily because they're less offended by being accused, or it's easier to put up a rational front when one knows the game layout. But it seems pretty ridiculous to me to get antagonistic as any alignment when one does have to work with the other players, even more so when one is part of the town majority. YMMV of course; that's my philosophy.

Yes, pirate mollie found me shady. As far as I can tell, it stemmed from her taking a while to read me as scum in a previous game and the much-quoted alleged scum slip where I said 'kill' instead of 'investigation'--funny how no one was interested in pursuing any of that despite both pirate mollie and me explaining what she was talking about ad nauseum until we're at MyLo and it seems like a good thing to dredge up for an easy mislynch. I mean, seriously, Majiffy kept asking her what she was talking about, she or I would tell him, and he'd say he wasn't reading it. Yet now he's happy voting me with nothing more than a Bohemian Rhapsody lyric to accompany it.

Between Majiffy's jump and ArcAngel9's eagerness to blame him for 'leading her astray into hammering' that read as very poor distancing to me, he goes in my scum pile.

UberNinja, you say that I bussed ArcAngel9 for town cred. I maintain that that lynch was going through regardless of my participation. Show me where I tried to use it for town cred, ever.

Which leaves Aj the Epic, borkjerfkin, TheReverend, UberNinja, and Vifam. Now from my perspective, I knew I wasn't going to be able to post for a while. Both UberNinja and Majiffy have votes on me. Everyone else who isn't conf-town has posted between when I said I'd be away and right now. Which means that if three scum weren't voting me, they had ample opportunity to do so when I was away from internet access. For that matter, all four of the not-voting people were online nearly simultaneously, long enough to decide they could risk the quick-lynch. That makes at least one of UberNinja and Majiffy scum. I tend to think they decided to go for broke and take different stances, one pushing the wagon heavily, one drive-by voting.

Aj the Epic, you've pulled six vote counts. Not exactly rigorous. Even looking at what you pulled, three are from Day One. Not to mention you've biased the results by making UberNinja town where you don't even make yourself town as one would expect. Insofar as having three flipped townies on my wagon early on, who else there has three flipped townies on her wagon? Oh, right, pirate mollie. A flipped townie. I have to agree with Vifam that your VCA is pretty unimpressive. I don't love the implications of the idea that you're trying to get others to consider me scum while holding back your vote. With such inflammatory language as 'secretly sitting on every major wagon' like I'm being deceptive...by voting? And where was all this insight into my play was where when you were calling me probtown here?

TheReverend as a whole feels town. borkjerfkin looks about how he did in other games I've played with him as town. Vifam has put himself in a position to make it hard for him to jump on my wagon with anything other than a stealth quick-hammer. I'm ranking my scum picks as Majiffy > Aj the Epic > UberNinja. The coloring UberNinja green from Aj the Epic does make me hesitant to put them on the same team, as I find it more likely that a scum-Aj the Epic forgot that town-UberNinja hadn't flipped yet than that he was trying to prop up his buddy where he didn't do so for himself. And before someone says he might have messed up the coding, it's there in all six vote counts where UberNinja is the voter or votee.

I think Vifam and Penguin need to hydra sometime and never sign their posts.

^ made me laugh. Thank you. (Although I think Vifam would reach across the internet and bash me about the head with his keyboard in sheer annoyance after about one day phase of being saddled with me in a QT.)

show me this, show me that

i don't have to show you a fucking thing

you're scum, and you're caught
and that's all there is to it

[UberNinja]

P_A, what day was the longest?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... an_Day_One

[UberNinja]

Yeah, Majiffy is definitely going to be the lynch today

not if i have anything to say about it

[UberNinja]

Oh, and since we're shooting the breeze, Aj the Epic, do you really think there are 3.5 scum in a 21 player game (since the Mafia wiki has a traitor counting as .5 scum)? That actually puts the mason group at the same size as the scum for night-talk purposes.

you're still bringing setup speculation into things?

what the fuck makes you think anyone is falling for your

bullshit

[UberNinja]

nope I'm killing penguin

[UberNinja]

Obviously that's not the case, and I think you know that

[UberNinja]

I want everyone's top TWO scum reads

[UberNinja]

Rev and Vifam.

jiffy and vifam.

Jiffy and Rev are my picks

SWEET TRIANGLE OF SCUMMINESS

i'm gonna laugh really fucking hard if it's you three

so how many of you have penguin as your #3?

[UberNinja]

yeah but with that kind of in-game swagger, you could legitimately pull it off

but i understand that if you're scum, that's the kind of thing you have to say

[UberNinja]

honestly if rev and vifam are scum together

this game is lost

[UberNinja]

why is that majiff?

p-edit: this is @5028

[UberNinja]

all i wanna know is

who would pirate mollie lynch

her top 3, undoubtedly, would be majiffy, me, and penguin_alien

i know it's not me, and majiffy's lynch just never seemed to materialize

penguin_alien has never even been close to being lynched

therefore it's penguin_alien AND majiffy

[UberNinja]

i'll be back later tonight

[UberNinja]

Vote penguin

[UberNinja]

Yeah but 12 days is far too long in MyLo. If we draw this out we open ourselves to renegotiation and shit.

[UberNinja]

Yeah, I'm going with Majiffy.

VOTE: Majiffy

/in before desperate bussing accusations

this is a scum claim

lynch it with fire

[UberNinja]

I'll probably be voting majiffy.

I'm leaning jiffy, vifam and penguin right now, but ninja does not have me feeling comfortable. His game is hardly pro-town. I'm guessing that's just his style.

welcome to the massacre

[UberNinja]

no, PENGUIN'S iso is a good place to start

but it's cute how you keep backtracking and hoping it makes you look town, rev

[UberNinja]

but it's cute how you keep backtracking and hoping it makes you look town, rev

You're either scum or bad.

shut up and vote penguin

your posturing is worthless

[UberNinja]

Anyone wonder why I haven't been lynched with so many people calling me scum for so long?

I'll let you ponder on that one.

By the by, it has precedent.

where are you going with this?

if you're town, vote penguin

if you're scum, vote penguin anyway

[UberNinja]

So, P_A, you're just going to sit there and mudsling the rest of the day, sitting defensively at best and non-existent at worst, hoping not to get lynched? That's town play.

bingo

[UberNinja]

No, if you think I'm scum enough to

risk the game on my lynch

, you should be thinking ahead about how your reads will readjust on my presumed scum flip. That you're not interested in doing so supports the idea that you know lynching me will end in a scum victory, end of story.

1. read the bolded
2. vote penguin
3. ???
4. profit

[UberNinja]

OK, so one of them can't be scum from your perspective, yes?

I don't expect you to know which one isn't; only that something in your reads needs to be reevaluated.

That you're not interested in doing so supports the idea that

you know lynching me will end in a scum victory, end of story.

Meanwhile, in contradiction land.

okay majiffy's more likely to be town

which leaves rev and one of vifam/bork/aj as the last scum

[UberNinja]

What's wrong with the bolded?

it's a terrible and completely transparent appeal to emotion

"if you're willing to risk the game on my lynch" =/= "the game would be lost if i was lynched"

it's when scum dances around what they think a townie would say, but doesn't word it right because they don't have the right mindset

bork, just trust me. vote penguin
and i will forgive you for being an ass in open 442

i caught triangle123 with this EXACT same tell in that game when i vigged her

people trying to slow the game down are doing so to town's detriment

if the game is slowed down enough, it will grind to a halt, and everyone will put their votes in their back pocket.
this isn't a 1/3 or even a 2/5, it's a 3/7, which means one vote doesn't really matter, because unless ALL THREE scum get online and quick hammer immediately, that person will easily have enough time to take a vote off

everyone who's pushing that it's a super dangerous situation are either scum trying to appear town, or they're dumb townies

tl;dr: vote penguin, and ride uber to victory, as usual.

[UberNinja]

oh hey look penguin is hammered

now wait for this delicious scum flip

[UberNinja]

wait did the scenario that i JUST described as happening in 5084, actually happen?

[UberNinja]

dammit. i hate it when i'm right

[UberNinja]

So yeah It was Vifam Uber and Bork

See you guys later

trolling me to the very last aren't you, motherfucker

[UberNinja]

Agreed. Never making the mistake again with Uber though.

I think there seriously needs to be a discussion about proper play about balance and cop claims.

Jesus christ.

I saved up clippings of all the comments you made saying I was the worst townie ever and that I should stick to newbie queues.

Should I share them here? lol

[UberNinja]

Fuck you Matt

Don't talk to me

[UberNinja]

IAI was fuckin clutch

You are the fuckin man bro

[UberNinja]

Can't wait to see mollie's and AP's comments btw

Hehehehehehehe

[UberNinja]

Man I was so pissed she got lynched. lol

[UberNinja]

Your scum play is still terrible.

lol okay

[UberNinja]

Fuck you Matt

Don't talk to me

Now now don't be testy

You literally are like 10x better as town than scum from a town perspective.

yeah and you're literally 10x shittier than you get credit for being

so suck a dick

[UberNinja]

Yeah, props to Mollie for realising you were scum, Uber As did I once you started pushing AD. A good player like you not even considering that IAI was scum? Didn't seem likely.

psh that AD lynch over IAI was a miracle

[UberNinja]

MattP is just mad he whiffed it the whole game

lol. this^

[UberNinja]

I actually thought Bork and you, Vifam, played very well. I think IAI was obvious the whole time, obviously, and UN was never as strong of a scumread as Majiffy so yes he managed to stay in the middle of the pack. I still think his strategy is a one-trick pony, which is to spam the thread and act brazen about a poor read, which is identical to his town meta except replace "poor" with "good"

this was a one time thing because i was in Vifamland as well

[UberNinja]

Fuck you Matt

Don't talk to me

Now now don't be testy

You literally are like 10x better as town than scum from a town perspective.

yeah and you're literally 10x shittier than you get credit for being

so suck a dick

This

HA

fuck yeah, solidarity

[UberNinja]

I know I played a terrible game, that doesn't defeat the point that UN played an obvious scum game because it so drastically differs from his townplay in retrospect?

operative words:

"in retrospect"

[UberNinja]

I think UberNinja played pretty well myself

and i, you, my love

<3

[UberNinja]

AP was the best in the town but whenever he was right on me he'd just give up and drop his vote

AP was pretty amazing except for his read on me. and i knew he'd come around eventually, so he had to be killed on N6 even though i'd much rather have liked to try to trick him, winning comes first and he was the wild card that we knew we couldn't fuck around with

<3 AP

[UberNinja]

There are a lot of those faces for anyone who didn't lynch me and Vifam this game, lol

[UberNinja]

i think i enjoy this posting style though

i'm gonna try it out in more of my games

[UberNinja]

Props to AP for nailing me. Im still not sure what you saw.

Yeah me neither, when he died I went through his later posts and thought it pointed to you, but when I ISO'd you, I didn't get an overwhelming sense of scumminess.

I was a threat to uber and vifam, sure. But I'm not so sure about bork. I was ready to abandon my scum read on jiffy based on vifam and arc voting him fast on d2. I think I'd have looked at AJ before bork. Not sure.

Yeah well played scum, you motherfuckers. I tend to play better in these big games later when the field is thinner. Jiffy will argue that case since I've mislynched him at lylo before, but he was ldo lynch because his town play is soooo fucking scummy! This one ended just as I was ready to put some real work in.

if it really came down to it

we probably would have killed you on Night 7

well, maybe AJ
but you next. lol

[UberNinja]

MattP is actually good though.

Also I question how people thought Rev was anything but obv-town

Matt's overhyped by about 250%

[UberNinja]

The setup itself seemed pretty townsided though

I agree.

I was like WTF there's THREE masons, AND an innocent child?
and we only have 1 PR, and one of us is a TRAITOR?

what the actual fuck, maestro

MattP is actually good though.

Also I question how people thought Rev was anything but obv-town

I'm very erratic, it's easy to point the finger at me.

you pissed away all your cred early on by pointing fingers at anyone who made a legit case against you

i.e. vifam on D1 and AP on day 3

(?)

and then forgetting about them as soon as they stopped attacking you

that, more than anything else, made it easy to ignore any perceived legitimacy you thought you had

[UberNinja]

Wasn't Nacho in this game also

yeah but we fucked him up on N2

[UberNinja]

operative words:

"in retrospect"

And you will explicitly see in the Dead QT I said:

"fool me one, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"

I think it works fine once. I don't think I'd be tricked again if you pushed so hard on bizarre reads. As the game progressed the wagons you pushed didn't seem to have much thought behind them but simultaneously you were so positive about them, which you of course do as town but the reads I'd consider "good" ones.

I don't think I would fall for that again, should you play that card again. We'll see

that's why i dont play the same cards twice very often

<3

[UberNinja]

MattP is actually good though.

Also I question how people thought Rev was anything but obv-town

Probably his avatar. ANyone with a black and white avatar is probably scum.

false! you're not scum, rev's not scum, i am innocent's not....

HEY WAIT A MINUTE

[UberNinja]

Well I also nailed Vifam and Ubernija. Seriously, Town lose when they don't listen to me.

well, also, half the battle as town is to NOT get lynched

when your partner is mastin, that can be ... problematic

[UberNinja]

Like I said, my goal was to go with the cop, and I think I did a good job of making it believable. Heck even AP didn't vote me D5, and say what you will about most of the town at that pt, he is a solid town player.

You were damn lucky you just so happened to prepare for a cop claim, which would counterract a gunsmith

yeah there was luck involved with that for sure, but he took advantage of the preparation he had already laid

and then he got both you and AD lynched with a ridiculous amount of swagger

therefore he is the scum MVP in my eyes

hiding in plain sight.... you clever mother fucker, IAI

[UberNinja]

Like I said, my goal was to go with the cop, and I think I did a good job of making it believable. Heck even AP didn't vote me D5, and say what you will about most of the town at that pt, he is a solid town player.

You were damn lucky you just so happened to prepare for a cop claim, which would counterract a gunsmith

Luck had nothing to do with it...

^ 100% baller

[UberNinja]

Well I also nailed Vifam and Ubernija. Seriously, Town lose when they don't listen to me.

well, also, half the battle as town is to NOT get lynched

when your partner is mastin, that can be ... problematic

I know but town should also NOT mislynch so that speaks volumes about this town.

point conceded

but dude

i didn't feel at all threatened by your slot this game, so that also speaks volumes

[UberNinja]

and ya IaI, I did know I was the easiest. I tried my best to argue that.

Seriously though I had you dead to rights.

no actually, he had YOU dead to rights

like I said:

By the way, how did we manage to lynch AD over IaI ffs?

because AD was playing like shit and IAI had his ducks in a row

get with teh program

[UberNinja]

I think the biggest issue for town was the demoralization

Which I was the causer of

I should have just replaced

yeah, probably

or just stop fakeclaiming as a habit

[UberNinja]

Like I said, my goal was to go with the cop, and I think I did a good job of making it believable. Heck even AP didn't vote me D5, and say what you will about most of the town at that pt, he is a solid town player.

You were damn lucky you just so happened to prepare for a cop claim, which would counterract a gunsmith

yeah there was luck involved with that for sure, but he took advantage of the preparation he had already laid

and then he got both you and AD lynched with a ridiculous amount of swagger

therefore he is the scum MVP in my eyes

hiding in plain sight.... you clever mother ****er, IAI

Best part was that I was trying not to leave clues back to me team, so I think I only ever voted two people (Jacob & Mollie) until my two scum investigations D4 & D5...lol

i noticed that, and i couldn't believe other people didn't.. hahaha

[UberNinja]

Oh, Mhork, when you're an IC and you're kept alive over non-confirmed players that means scum is keeping you alive because your reads are wrong

i admit, i laughed pretty hard at this post:

Oh yeah. Gimme a sec for mass claim list.

Majiffy
Aj the Epic
TheReverend
penguin_alien
Vifam
Borkjkork
UberNinja

There.

[UberNinja]

No question IAI is MVP. Town is bad for falling for that crap twice, but that shouldn't take the shine off his performance.

to be fair, we played a pretty solid day game as well

like vifam said, i think AA was probably the only weak link

[UberNinja]

well, once bork picked up his posting that is

he was struggling about halfway through, and needed a kick in the ass

i'll give it to him though, scum games this long are pretty taxing

[UberNinja]

Like I said, my goal was to go with the cop, and I think I did a good job of making it believable. Heck even AP didn't vote me D5, and say what you will about most of the town at that pt, he is a solid town player.

You were damn lucky you just so happened to prepare for a cop claim, which would counterract a gunsmith

yeah there was luck involved with that for sure, but he took advantage of the preparation he had already laid

and then he got both you and AD lynched with a ridiculous amount of swagger

therefore he is the scum MVP in my eyes

hiding in plain sight.... you clever mother fucker, IAI

Good play to claim a guilty on Matt.

Equally best play to claim a guiltly on me.

But my lynch was accomplished with the help of some of the town being in the 5% bracket

Actually UN I had him dead to rights. Sorry!

of course you had him dead to rights

usually the townie with a fake guilty on him has a LITTLE bit of confirmation bias, at LEAST

[UberNinja]

Well I also nailed Vifam and Ubernija. Seriously, Town lose when they don't listen to me.

well, also, half the battle as town is to NOT get lynched

when your partner is mastin, that can be ... problematic

I know but town should also NOT mislynch so that speaks volumes about this town.

point conceded

but dude

i didn't feel at all threatened by your slot this game, so that also speaks volumes

no one ever is 'cause no one ever listens to me but if I hadn't been mislynched then I would have keep the heat on you, maybe you'd even need to kill me. and if I was a vig you'd be dead. Thank the town for mislynching me.

there's a lot of 'ifs' in that paragraph

we should talk offline, maybe i can teach you a think or two about avoiding being lynched.
it's a pretty valuable skill as both town and scum

[UberNinja]

or just stop fakeclaiming as a habit

Sometimes it works dandy

But sure everyone can now yell at me for that

If IAI didn't crumb cop it wouldve worked

no probably not

because you would have backed down eventually

and also because nobody would have lynched a cop, breadcrumb or not

[UberNinja]

Im pretty sure I was on just about every lynch in this game

i have a 0% bussing percentage in this game, lol

[UberNinja]

Also fakeclaiming is equally likely in my town and scum meta. And by this point it's so common for me it has no meaning. If people want to use that against me, I disagree, I won't be changing that aspect of my game, and people can hate me for it

it's also equally dumb in your town and scum meta

whatever benefits it has, the drawbacks always outweigh it

unless you're equally willing to "shine" in games, or throw games to the other faction
then you might think otherwise

but guess which you did in this game

[UberNinja]

Ugh it is fucking impossible to lynch Vifam.

What do you mean

you're a cool mofo bro

even if i had a cop guilty on you, i prob wouldn't lynch you

[UberNinja]

My list of MVP scum would be: Vifam, IAI, Uber, Bork, AA.

Dude Vifam was hillariously scum all game long and no one would give a shit enough to actually pressure him >.>

i agree, i thought we were both pretty obvious

but then, confirmation bias, etc.~

[UberNinja]

I think Matt P should be scum MVP.

lol, matt or mhork...

[UberNinja]

to be fair, we played a pretty solid day game as well

You might get more pats on the back from the others who thought you were town, but I was trying hard to figure out why people had a town read on you. And vifam was obvious as shit. But, you're both still alive, so credit is due. You're right that my habit of OMGUS loses me cred, but often I'm just reaction baiting. I played pretty shit this game, I was lost early on and by the time I was starting to look in the right places the game was over. But I feel better about vifam and ninja being scum, because that's what my gut was saying.

your gut was good.

no doubts there

just gotta work on the "not pissing away your legitimacy early on" thing <3

[UberNinja]

I think Matt P should be scum MVP.

I sucked this game for a slew of reasons. I'm fully aware.

pedit: I'd be happy to show you games where fakeclaiming worked out 180, UN

there are two sides to every coin

i have fakeclaimed epic fakeclaims before which paid off in spades

i have also crashed and burned

and there were more of the second, so i stopped

[UberNinja]

well, also, half the battle as town is to NOT get lynched

when your partner is mastin, that can be ... problematic

I know but town should also NOT mislynch so that speaks volumes about this town.

point conceded

but dude

i didn't feel at all threatened by your slot this game, so that also speaks volumes

no one ever is 'cause no one ever listens to me but if I hadn't been mislynched then I would have keep the heat on you, maybe you'd even need to kill me. and if I was a vig you'd be dead. Thank the town for mislynching me.

there's a lot of 'ifs' in that paragraph

we should talk offline, maybe i can teach you a think or two about avoiding being lynched.
it's a pretty valuable skill as both town and scum

meh, the point is that I had you and vifam dead to rights. I think I was also the first to suspect you to at all. Yeah I got mislynched by a terrible town, I was still right and you can't take that from me.

you are correct, and i am not trying to take taht from you

i'm just saying that being right isn't always the only thing that matters

you have to be able to convince other people you are right

[UberNinja]

there are two sides to every coin

i have fakeclaimed epic fakeclaims before which paid off in spades

i have also crashed and burned

and there were more of the second, so i stopped

This is the first time it's bit me in the ass, EVER

well, okay

good for you then?

[UberNinja]

I don't know man, I think Im just hard to lynch because no one ever really builds a case on me I don't know why, it's like every game I'm in if people think Im scum they just give up half way through the interrogation

that's because there's nothing to build a case on

it's like trying to stab a ghost with a pitchfork

i.e. not happening

[UberNinja]

anyway i g2g

good game all. this is the longest large normal of all time btw

<3 my team
</3 town

[UberNinja]

k

[UberNinja]

thanks for the game maestro

I hate you uber goober

lol <3 u

[UberNinja]

Maestro, yur awesome and i luv u <3

this game was amazing




town played amazingly

and...lol whatever, I'm UberNinja

[UberNinja]

Now for a few words from your Moderator...

LOL epic

[UberNinja]

Maestro, yur awesome and i luv u <3

this game was amazing




town played amazingly

and...lol whatever, I'm UberNinja

LOL WTF

you fucking... fuck!

[UberNinja]

omfg lol u dweeb Maestro i <3 u

I LOVE EVERYONE AND SMOKE LARGE AMOUNTS OF CRACK COCAINE

[UberNinja]

FUCK YOU UBER GOOBER!!!

maybe I should have said that in pm

LOL

I FUCKING LOVE YOU

[UberNinja]

I suppose it's cool w/me to share the Scum QT

People knowing the things I shared with bork would be good for the site, overall

It might also teach people how to scumhunt a little better

And it will make things more challenging for me in future games, at any rate

I love a challenge

[UberNinja]

Fair warning is that Vi did approve the setup, but we both admitted it would be an uphill battle for Scum.

Well, as long as somebody said it.

I feel like this game is scummy worthy, it was so fun! Somebody nominate it!

[UberNinja]

Fair warning is that Vi did approve the setup, but we both admitted it would be an uphill battle for Scum.

Well, as long as somebody said it.

I feel like this game is scummy worthy, it was so fun! Somebody nominate it!

The setup, by the way, is decidedly Town-sided. Scum currently hate me BUT DESPITE ALL THEIR WHINING IN THE QT - they are obviously winning.

Okay I feel less like whining now

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Heh now that I mention it I remember Maestro saying that to me and Majiffy in the Micro 110 Mafia QT before either of us even signed up for the game.

What, that the setup was town-sided?

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Basically UN is single handedly destroying this town based on extreme arrogance and pride. I can't even laugh at him, it's too sad.

HAHAHAHA

i'm crying

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Also, who am I kidding. Vifam has no secrets. Here's the scum QT

http://www.quicktopic.com/48/H/4FbUJTA8wRz

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I'm a monster, a beast, I can't be tamed

I drive all alone in the car pool lane

lol wtf

i love you

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yeah I'm honestly kinda surprised the floodgates opened from the dead people in the topic like this. Ive never really seen that happen.

Yeah, normally I wait for the mod to post the final flip if I know the game's over (especially since one never knows for certain when it's not an open game at LyLo) but since there were about 100 posts by the time I got back, that horse had kind of left the barn.

For a posh game of Mafia, I feel like if we'd had a swear jar going, we could throw a pizza party off the proceeds from this game!

For a posh game of Mafia, I feel like if we'd had a swear jar going, we could throw a pizza party off the proceeds from this game!

Pizza party? Champagne and caviar, my fair lady.

Champagne straight from the bottle, that is. I don't fucking do posh.

I second this. Champagne, champagne!

Every time UN posts he has to put a quarter in the jar for server upgrades.

Vifam too.

And, UN, you jknow I can never trust you again : P. Just 100% PLs all the time so I don't have to worry about you. Or maybe I'll investigate you if I can; so if Im not pushing for you I must have some sort of innocent on you

Haha. Then I hope you're never a cop when I'm scum. I like my odds

I think there's about half the active players on the site I can't ever play with again, lol

Playing scum is so stressful sometimes, I'm glad it's over. I just had 3 scum games in a row, and that suuuuucked

One of them I got copped N1; we lost -____-

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It's in the thread, mastin

A few pages back

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Fun fact: you had less than 1/2 of 1% of all the posts in this game.... (~0.00486 to be exact)

Ssh... I had a bad game okay

Seems like you have a lot of bad games.

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Aw give him a break he's only a child

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First impressions are everything

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Don't make me destroooy you...

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yeah that soundcloud thing was pretty sick

i'm still waiting for the other comments via soundcloud

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oh there's one per player? i thought it was just general thoughts

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I admit I laughed a lot at penguin's comment

Fuck yeahhhhh, I am a cumulonimbus rated player

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Fun fact: auto correct tried to change cumulonimbus to cunnilingus

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all hail the autocorrect