NY 161: Overly-Posh Mafia (POSH WIN - NIGHT X)

[UberNinja]

or just stop fakeclaiming as a habit

Sometimes it works dandy

But sure everyone can now yell at me for that

If IAI didn't crumb cop it wouldve worked

no probably not

because you would have backed down eventually

and also because nobody would have lynched a cop, breadcrumb or not

[UberNinja]

Im pretty sure I was on just about every lynch in this game

i have a 0% bussing percentage in this game, lol

[TheReverend]

to be fair, we played a pretty solid day game as well

You might get more pats on the back from the others who thought you were town, but I was trying hard to figure out why people had a town read on you. And vifam was obvious as shit. But, you're both still alive, so credit is due. You're right that my habit of OMGUS loses me cred, but often I'm just reaction baiting. I played pretty shit this game, I was lost early on and by the time I was starting to look in the right places the game was over. But I feel better about vifam and ninja being scum, because that's what my gut was saying.

[UberNinja]

Also fakeclaiming is equally likely in my town and scum meta. And by this point it's so common for me it has no meaning. If people want to use that against me, I disagree, I won't be changing that aspect of my game, and people can hate me for it

it's also equally dumb in your town and scum meta

whatever benefits it has, the drawbacks always outweigh it

unless you're equally willing to "shine" in games, or throw games to the other faction
then you might think otherwise

but guess which you did in this game

[ActionDan]

Like I said, my goal was to go with the cop, and I think I did a good job of making it believable. Heck even AP didn't vote me D5, and say what you will about most of the town at that pt, he is a solid town player.

You were damn lucky you just so happened to prepare for a cop claim, which would counterract a gunsmith

yeah there was luck involved with that for sure, but he took advantage of the preparation he had already laid

and then he got both you and AD lynched with a ridiculous amount of swagger

therefore he is the scum MVP in my eyes

hiding in plain sight.... you clever mother fucker, IAI

Good play to claim a guilty on Matt.

Equally best play to claim a guiltly on me.

But my lynch was accomplished with the help of some of the town being in the 5% bracket

Actually UN I had him dead to rights. Sorry!

of course you had him dead to rights

usually the townie with a fake guilty on him has a LITTLE bit of confirmation bias, at LEAST

more like My argument trying to prove he was a lying cop to the rest of town was accurate in determining his motivations, and unravelling his cover story and arguments.

I mean you didn't read them from a town perspective, so I suppose it's hard for you to judge

[MattP]

I think Matt P should be scum MVP.

I sucked this game for a slew of reasons. I'm fully aware.

pedit: I'd be happy to show you games where fakeclaiming worked out 180, UN

[UberNinja]

Ugh it is fucking impossible to lynch Vifam.

What do you mean

you're a cool mofo bro

even if i had a cop guilty on you, i prob wouldn't lynch you

[UberNinja]

My list of MVP scum would be: Vifam, IAI, Uber, Bork, AA.

Dude Vifam was hillariously scum all game long and no one would give a shit enough to actually pressure him >.>

i agree, i thought we were both pretty obvious

but then, confirmation bias, etc.~

[UberNinja]

I think Matt P should be scum MVP.

lol, matt or mhork...

[TheReverend]

I'm gonna defend Matt. Fake claiming as town might often be anti-town, but it's entertaining. We should be playing this game for fun, with winning next priority. It makes the game interesting.

[ActionDan]

I think Matt P should be scum MVP.

no sorry, think what you might, that should go between Mhork and Majiffy

[UberNinja]

to be fair, we played a pretty solid day game as well

You might get more pats on the back from the others who thought you were town, but I was trying hard to figure out why people had a town read on you. And vifam was obvious as shit. But, you're both still alive, so credit is due. You're right that my habit of OMGUS loses me cred, but often I'm just reaction baiting. I played pretty shit this game, I was lost early on and by the time I was starting to look in the right places the game was over. But I feel better about vifam and ninja being scum, because that's what my gut was saying.

your gut was good.

no doubts there

just gotta work on the "not pissing away your legitimacy early on" thing <3

[MattP]

My biggest mistake was not reading the game, I feel very adamantly about this

[Nero Cain]

Well I also nailed Vifam and Ubernija. Seriously, Town lose when they don't listen to me.

well, also, half the battle as town is to NOT get lynched

when your partner is mastin, that can be ... problematic

I know but town should also NOT mislynch so that speaks volumes about this town.

point conceded

but dude

i didn't feel at all threatened by your slot this game, so that also speaks volumes

no one ever is 'cause no one ever listens to me but if I hadn't been mislynched then I would have keep the heat on you, maybe you'd even need to kill me. and if I was a vig you'd be dead. Thank the town for mislynching me.

there's a lot of 'ifs' in that paragraph

we should talk offline, maybe i can teach you a think or two about avoiding being lynched.
it's a pretty valuable skill as both town and scum

meh, the point is that I had you and vifam dead to rights. I think I was also the first to suspect you to at all. Yeah I got mislynched by a terrible town, I was still right and you can't take that from me.

[Nero Cain]

Well I also nailed Vifam and Ubernija. Seriously, Town lose when they don't listen to me.

well, also, half the battle as town is to NOT get lynched

when your partner is mastin, that can be ... problematic

I know but town should also NOT mislynch so that speaks volumes about this town.

point conceded

but dude

i didn't feel at all threatened by your slot this game, so that also speaks volumes

no one ever is 'cause no one ever listens to me but if I hadn't been mislynched then I would have keep the heat on you, maybe you'd even need to kill me. and if I was a vig you'd be dead. Thank the town for mislynching me.

there's a lot of 'ifs' in that paragraph

we should talk offline, maybe i can teach you a think or two about avoiding being lynched.
it's a pretty valuable skill as both town and scum

meh, the point is that I had you and vifam dead to rights. I think I was also the first to suspect you to at all. Yeah I got mislynched by a terrible town, I was still right and you can't take that from me.

[UberNinja]

I think Matt P should be scum MVP.

I sucked this game for a slew of reasons. I'm fully aware.

pedit: I'd be happy to show you games where fakeclaiming worked out 180, UN

there are two sides to every coin

i have fakeclaimed epic fakeclaims before which paid off in spades

i have also crashed and burned

and there were more of the second, so i stopped

[Vifam]

I don't know man, I think Im just hard to lynch because no one ever really builds a case on me I don't know why, it's like every game I'm in if people think Im scum they just give up half way through the interrogation

[MattP]

there are two sides to every coin

i have fakeclaimed epic fakeclaims before which paid off in spades

i have also crashed and burned

and there were more of the second, so i stopped

This is the first time it's bit me in the ass, EVER

[mozamis]

My list of MVP scum would be: Vifam, IAI, Uber, Bork, AA.

Dude Vifam was hillariously scum all game long and no one would give a shit enough to actually pressure him >.>

Props to you for getting him, but he fooled most of the town. So "hilariously scum" is over doing it. Although, yeah, thats the last time I fall for a guy who just looks like he's having a chat ALL game long lol

[UberNinja]

well, also, half the battle as town is to NOT get lynched

when your partner is mastin, that can be ... problematic

I know but town should also NOT mislynch so that speaks volumes about this town.

point conceded

but dude

i didn't feel at all threatened by your slot this game, so that also speaks volumes

no one ever is 'cause no one ever listens to me but if I hadn't been mislynched then I would have keep the heat on you, maybe you'd even need to kill me. and if I was a vig you'd be dead. Thank the town for mislynching me.

there's a lot of 'ifs' in that paragraph

we should talk offline, maybe i can teach you a think or two about avoiding being lynched.
it's a pretty valuable skill as both town and scum

meh, the point is that I had you and vifam dead to rights. I think I was also the first to suspect you to at all. Yeah I got mislynched by a terrible town, I was still right and you can't take that from me.

you are correct, and i am not trying to take taht from you

i'm just saying that being right isn't always the only thing that matters

you have to be able to convince other people you are right

[penguin_alien]

Well played to scum, and thanks to Maestro for modding!

[UberNinja]

there are two sides to every coin

i have fakeclaimed epic fakeclaims before which paid off in spades

i have also crashed and burned

and there were more of the second, so i stopped

This is the first time it's bit me in the ass, EVER

well, okay

good for you then?

[ActionDan]

I don't know man, I think Im just hard to lynch because no one ever really builds a case on me I don't know why, it's like every game I'm in if people think Im scum they just give up half way through the interrogation

Hard to build a case off of one liners. Info is spread so thin

[AngryPidgeon]

My list of MVP scum would be: Vifam, IAI, Uber, Bork, AA.

Dude Vifam was hillariously scum all game long and no one would give a shit enough to actually pressure him >.>

Props to you for getting him, but he fooled most of the town. So "hilariously scum" is over doing it. Although, yeah, thats the last time I fall for a guy who just looks like he's having a chat ALL game long lol

I guess Vifam's style is just really similar to mine and I know when Im just full of shit.

[UberNinja]

I don't know man, I think Im just hard to lynch because no one ever really builds a case on me I don't know why, it's like every game I'm in if people think Im scum they just give up half way through the interrogation

that's because there's nothing to build a case on

it's like trying to stab a ghost with a pitchfork

i.e. not happening