Mini 1404 - Monopoly Mafia - Game Over

[Cheery Dog]

Your role's actual name please.

[Jake from State Farm]

I am a VT

[Cheery Dog]

Therefore my point is in 2515 is valid and you not actioning means you weren't doing anything therefore I shouldn't have got a "no result" on your no action.

[Jake from State Farm]

Therefore my point is in 2515 is valid and you not actioning means you weren't doing anything therefore I shouldn't have got a "no result" on your no action.

but I was actioning, one of my cards gives me the watcher ability. want proof that I watched Jal and saw you?

ALL of this was before Safety claimed to watch Jal also. I was freaking out cause I thought I caught you in a lie.

Your version of this is?

I didn't see anything.I didn't see anything.

Got with waterworks on UberNinja?

The other utility is also a tracker, I used it on UberNinja.

Really? You tracked UN?

And I had not read the game fully at that point and wasn't putting anyone at l-1. If I wasn't asked by mehndi I probably wouldn't have had an opinion on either at that time.

But SC's l-1 for no reason but sheeping definitely was odd, especially since it came right after I voted him. Bus makes sense because I could easily be accused of starting a counter.

I will say i too have some info but not sure what to do with it. Hopefully some discussion will help me figure it out if the info I have is helpful or not.

P.edit - huh?

Can we have that info now?

Hang tight

P. edit cool, you tracked UN and didn't visit anyone ekse right?

I'm not buying you can use 2 actions in 1 night

mod:, if a player has 2 cards with actions, can they use both in 1 night?

I've never in my life seen this happen. Usually it's 1 or the other

I saw you visit Jal, which is why I questioned you and immediately asked the mod about using 2 cards on 1 night.

so let's just say that you are busted and I am proven town now. Good job cheery it was a valiant effort.

I'm done with this back and forth cause I have proven you are caught.

[Jake from State Farm]

Safety claimed to watch jal 99 posts later.

[Jake from State Farm]

so like I said, you better ask the mod to confirm that "didn't see anything" is the same as "no result" as that is your only chance of not getting lynched,

I'm done with this game tonight, if when I wake up and you aren't at least at L-1 i'm going to be extremely disappointed.

[Cheery Dog]

but I was actioning, one of my cards gives me the watcher ability. want proof that I watched Jal and saw you?

ALL of this was before Safety claimed to watch Jal also. I was freaking out cause I thought I caught you in a lie.

You having seen me visit Jal night 1 doesn't mean anything about your lack of an action last night.

[SafetyDance]

I can confirm no killing actions from Jake.
(and also to make him happy I guess -

I didn't see anything

from tracking him)

Found it finally.

So you saw me go nowhere but mod confirmed in thread that a tracker following a watcher would result in "no result"

mod I think you missed my previous question. If a tracker tracks a watcher will he get a result or will he not see anything?

~A "No result" type message~

You got some explaining to do son...

I...don't even...

my role PM says nothing about requiring a monopoly and I DID action with my cards but what you don't comprehend is that mod has essentially confirmed that since my only ability is a watcher it's impossible for you to get anything other than a "NO RESULT" so you getting a result on me is a lie.

sorry cheery you lose - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A

Nope I can't comprehend this whole argument and I'm not voting CD because you've picked another person to try and piñata. Do you find this 'style' an effective scum-hunting technique?

V/LA next 48 hours because of unknown access.

[Jake from State Farm]

Seriously safety? His result on me is a direct contradiction to what the mod says. How Do you not understand?

[Jake from State Farm]

but I was actioning, one of my cards gives me the watcher ability. want proof that I watched Jal and saw you?

ALL of this was before Safety claimed to watch Jal also. I was freaking out cause I thought I caught you in a lie.

You having seen me visit Jal night 1 doesn't mean anything about your lack of an action last night.

So I used my action night 1 and decided to lie about last night? Hell no, I used my action every night. I followed the plan

Nobody visited safety which means xis result is false and your tracking result on me is false.

This comment you made about needing a monopoly, no idea where you got that from but it certainly doesn't say it in my role pm. Anyone else role pm says that?

[Jake from State Farm]

@ cheery, where exactly does your role pm mention needing a monopoly?

[Cheery Dog]

nowhere.
I said you needed a monopoly to get powers actually listed as your role, therefore my result I received and the mod's post means you hadn't actioned. And therefore it doesn't count as you actually being a watcher, you're a vanilla of whatever your alignment is, which I believe to be scum.

[Jake from State Farm]

So you beleive I can action but chose not to last night? smh

That makes no sense

[Cheery Dog]

It's the only thing that fits with the information the mod had given me.

[Jake from State Farm]

So I think xis is scum
Later say I don't think you can be scum with xis cause of xis's earlier vote on your slot
I later think safety is scum
I get the mod to answer my question but don't process the ramifications of his response at that time
And now when I finally do your only defense is I must be lying?

If my plan was to set you/xis up I would never have had to re-evaluate my reads. It's a valiant effort but give it up.

Oh wait - safety isn't thinking clearly and refuses to examine the evidence.

Fuck if safety is town he's being dense and IMO game throwing.

[Lord Mhork]

Yay! I have Internet again! My V/LA is done and I will check over this thread after school.

[Jal]

Cheery - Do you think there is a manipulation role in the game?

[Cheery Dog]

@Jake considering I didn't pay attention to the mod contradicting what he sent me at the start of the day until how ever many posts that was after you brought it up, it's only become apparent that you're lying now. I don't think you were expecting that answer from the mod to your question, but that's how the facts fall. Unless you'd already asked him during the night, but you'd have brought this up earlier if that wa the case.

As for reasons you didn't watch, I came up with one possibility by sleeping on it, but seeing as I should therefore have seen you move I may have to discount it. (plus there wasn't any other claims making it less probable)
But as I'll still wonder about it anyway

@mod, are mafia able to kill and use deed actions in the same night?

You're moved off xis again because you need 4 people to lynch and you thought you'd have better luck with me getting jal and safety to move.

Cheery - Do you think there is a manipulation role in the game?

If there are any I believe them to be limited shot - chance/community chest.
But I think the mod's weird role interactions by lack of watchers seeing each other, trackers not seeing doctors means that actual manipulate roles don't exist.

[Jake from State Farm]

@Jake considering I didn't pay attention to the mod contradicting what he sent me at the start of the day until how ever many posts that was after you brought it up, it's only become apparent that you're lying

so the mod contradicted your result and I am the one lying? how is does that work exactly?

As for reasons you didn't watch, I came up with one possibility by sleeping on it

I forgot to use my action? that's why my very post of the day I outed my info about nobody visiting safety. If I kept it to myself until AFTER xis posted than MAYBE you could be on to something but like a dumbass I outed my info right away. I used my action.

but seeing as I should therefore have seen you move I may have to discount it.

According to the mod who confirmed it in the thread you could not have seen me move, you would have only gotten a "no result" which you have said you didn't get.

your only hope is the mod saying "didn't see anything" is the same as "no result" but you don't have any interest in asking the mod cause you know the answer. You know you are painted into a corner.

[Xisiqomelir]

I'm not interested in lynching anyone today, FTR.

Jake, you've called confscum on three people now. That doesn't add up.

[Jake from State Farm]

No, I never called safety conf.scum. I only called you/cheery conf.scum.

Nice try though

[Jake from State Farm]

can we get an updated vote count?

[Jake from State Farm]

Yay! I have Internet again! My V/LA is done and I will check over this thread after school.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@mod, are mafia able to kill and use deed actions in the same night?

~Sort of. One person can't kill and use deed actions in the same night, but as a team, they can.~
~Note: By "as a team" I mean 1 person may kill, the other uses THEIR OWN cards. Mafia (or anyone for that matter) cannot trade cards to other people~

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

~SafetyDance has been prodded~