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Post Post #4775 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:41 pm

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In post 4768, AngryPidgeon wrote::/

Still fairly sure that neither was scum.

The setup is really more ridiculous w/o the cop.


no it is not.

no it is not.

Jesus christ. think of all the setups you've played in 13 p, where there was a cop. Then expand that out to 21 players adding 2 scum and 6 town.

If IaI is not lynched after I flip there will be no words.

Bork doubted the cop. That's sensible. Compare to Vifam and Majiffy that went to support him with barebones reasoning.

And yes AP. I lurked. However my D1 play was town, my thinking was matching yours, and my lurking was universal throughout all my games. It should have been treated as null.

Vifam is posturing even when I already have said that I'm flipping town. I mean this doesn't get more obvious.
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Post Post #4776 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:44 pm

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Post Post #4777 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:44 pm

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In post 4162, borkjerfkin wrote:I've seen framer in normals. People were unhappy.

In post 4196, borkjerfkin wrote:I don't have a lot of experience in normals -- is it a tendency for scum to have counters to town PRs?

Seriously, this needs to go.
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Post Post #4778 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:45 pm

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ahahahahahahaahaha
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Post Post #4779 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:48 pm

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In post 4777, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 4162, borkjerfkin wrote:I've seen framer in normals. People were unhappy.

In post 4196, borkjerfkin wrote:I don't have a lot of experience in normals -- is it a tendency for scum to have counters to town PRs?

Seriously, this needs to go.


ok. maybe this is a good lead.

even so, it's kinda benign.

It's more important that Vifam and Majiffy die
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Post Post #4780 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:49 pm

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In post 4775, ActionDan wrote:Bork doubted the cop. That's sensible.

And scum would be incapable of posturing on this issue? Its a really easy assertion to make. And Bork was flip-flopping on the framer issue. He really is scum. If you are town, it could easily be bork/majiffy/Iai?/??

P-edit: I agree that Majiffy has to go. Im glad Im starting to think AJ and rev are both moderately town.
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Post Post #4781 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:53 pm

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that last ?? is vifam.

Yes scum could posture. no more than 1 of them did. Honestly feel free to question Bork if need be. But trust me that Majiffy and Vifam are scum. Or trust me after I flip town.

Also trust me that IaI is faking it. I spent all my efforts trying to show you guys that in my posts today. Even his damn emo-cons are fucking scummy.
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Post Post #4782 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:54 pm

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think about how you would play as a cop in his position. Then read over his posts. see if you agree, try to think if you'd done anything differently. Then read my posts ripping IaI's posts apart.
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Post Post #4783 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:56 pm

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needless to say, if anyone claims anything besides VT at this point you insta lynch them
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Post Post #4784 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:56 pm

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Lol, I guess I was just having issues with the anti-town setup that 4conf-towns / Vig/ BG versus a direct counter to the Vig/BG implies. Because really, thats terrible. vig shoots roles that flip conftown or they have to claim right away to stop that. Its dumb. Cop + a framer at least adds an interesting aspect to the setup with all the masons/IC.

And ya, Vifam's post about "I meant AD was scum" was really really bad too.

P-edit: Part of my problem was I ended up having to go to the doctor yesterday for ...antibiotics. And I kinda didn't end up reading the gameday today. If Uber is scum, hes a fucking master at spamposting to smokescreen the thread.
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Post Post #4785 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:59 pm

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In post 4780, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 4775, ActionDan wrote:Bork doubted the cop. That's sensible.

And scum would be incapable of posturing on this issue? Its a really easy assertion to make. And Bork was flip-flopping on the framer issue. He really is scum. If you are town, it could easily be bork/majiffy/Iai?/??

P-edit: I agree that Majiffy has to go. Im glad Im starting to think AJ and rev are both moderately town.


What am I flip-flopping on? I'm getting fucking tired of these stupid potshots from you.
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Post Post #4786 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:59 pm

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IAI is def. the lynch tomorrow

I'm kind of sorry
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Post Post #4787 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:00 pm

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yeah. you see, you're looking at it in the worst possible way.

Let's say the vig and cop shoot and check people that aren't the 4 confirmed towns. P.O.E rapes the scum team. It wouldn't even be fair.

And I'm been screaming at the top of my lungs about this. I knew people were not reading. Part of the blame goes to UN who sucks at mafia, and literally can't be bothered to read jack.

You guys have no more mislynches. You're bound to lose because of today's fuck up
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Post Post #4788 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:04 pm

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btw,

It was terrible play to reveal PeregrineV as the last mason. I was amazed when I read that. It was an indicator that ~all of town~ is inexperienced
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Post Post #4789 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:06 pm

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:/

IaI -> Bork -> Majiffy. Pretty much the order Id like to see things happen. Could pull a win out of this if we dont ML Rev/AJ.

Ya, revealing PV was really dumb. I wasnt going to let him get lynched ever anyhow.
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Post Post #4790 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:07 pm

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In post 4785, borkjerfkin wrote:
In post 4780, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 4775, ActionDan wrote:Bork doubted the cop. That's sensible.

And scum would be incapable of posturing on this issue? Its a really easy assertion to make. And Bork was flip-flopping on the framer issue. He really is scum. If you are town, it could easily be bork/majiffy/Iai?/??

P-edit: I agree that Majiffy has to go. Im glad Im starting to think AJ and rev are both moderately town.


What am I flip-flopping on? I'm getting fucking tired of these stupid potshots from you.

What other shots? I've barely been posting recently.

This is all you have to say? Nothing about Dan being obvtown? Nothing about IaI?
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Post Post #4791 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:08 pm

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Thanks for dodging the question.

And uh I've made my stance on IAI vs Dan pretty clear.
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Post Post #4792 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:10 pm

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I don't care.

You were like "Ya I've seen framers in normal." Followed by "I dont really do normals; Do scum typically have counters to PRs????" Note that framer is explicitly a counter to a town PR.

Your lack of concern about Dan getting ML'd is nice though.
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Post Post #4793 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:11 pm

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In post 4791, borkjerfkin wrote:Thanks for dodging the question.

And uh I've made my stance on IAI vs Dan pretty clear.


to be frank. You could have done a much better job at advertizing it
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Post Post #4794 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:13 pm

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did an iso of today.

Bork's ok still. as in, still town.
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Post Post #4795 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:15 pm

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Dan certainly was not "obvtown" but IAI required less assumptions to be scum. I feel I've been very clear on this.

Knowing that people use framers by looking at the mini normal queue and checking out a few games where they happened is hardly tantamount to knowing how people tend to balance games.

p-edit: how exactly? Vifam, Uber, and Majiffy are basically just fucking around and Mollie wanted a third party lynch.
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Post Post #4796 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 1:22 pm

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I don't know. tell them they're idiots. I am forgetting who your other scum reads are or if you would focus more on that after me and IaI had been settled. But if you wanted to try and scumhunt those guys more, you'd have actually been able to get them to listen more and force them to give out more material.

what faults you have pale in comparison as far as I am concerned.
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Post Post #4797 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:08 pm

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In post 4788, ActionDan wrote:btw,

It was terrible play to reveal PeregrineV as the last mason. I was amazed when I read that. It was an indicator that ~all of town~ is inexperienced


inexperienced as a special? fuck yeah. where were you to help guide us, you sanctimonious [redacted].

only rolled mason once before as an indie prior to this.

I didn't trust the other players in this game not to go retarded on him and lynch him since that was the direction that certain players (probably scum) were heading. and I was taking in what mhork was saying.

you are scum aren't you
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Post Post #4798 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:12 pm

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In post 4797, pirate mollie wrote:
In post 4788, ActionDan wrote:btw,

It was terrible play to reveal PeregrineV as the last mason. I was amazed when I read that. It was an indicator that ~all of town~ is inexperienced


inexperienced as a special? fuck yeah. where were you to help guide us, you sanctimonious [redacted].

only rolled mason once before as an indie prior to this.

I didn't trust the other players in this game not to go retarded on him and lynch him since that was the direction that certain players (probably scum) were heading. and I was taking in what mhork was saying.

you are scum aren't you


I call things as I see them. And this town is inexperienced, and bad.
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Post Post #4799 (ISO) » Thu Feb 28, 2013 2:13 pm

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And was I right in thinking you don't actually have any "slips" on UN. Because I'd assume by now you'd out it, ya know, with the high probability of you dying tonight
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