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In post 1795, Thestatusquo wrote:In post 1792, AGar wrote:http://www.channelfireball.com/articles ... o-7-drops/
Holy shit I want to try this.
As much as I like TWoo, I think this deck is just a bad version of the junk reanimator deck that was popular right after return came out. How exactly is red better than thragtusk/mulch/trackers instincts/mana dorks/craterhoof?
I don't think it is.
Guild Feud is a neat way of getting past Rest in Peace, but I'm not convinced that it's actually better. Giving my opponent free stuff isn't something that pleases me in a card.One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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In post 1799, chamber wrote:A 2 mana 2/2 isn't even close to being good enough on its own.
It's significantly better than mayor for my deck though, and I'm surprised boo one mentioned it
ESPECIALLY better than Mayors and hell raisers togetherFate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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Yeah, but Mayor risks flipping, thus turning off the bonus!One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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Mayor can be flipped and if I have to attack with him because of the Hellraiser hell so easily get killed. I found I usually can't act Maher but this guy well he has to attack to the ability is a 22 value bear himself.
also having to these out on the field ads 233 attackers as opposed to 2 mayorsFate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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Also, heres an example of what chamber is talking about re: vanilla. Loxodon Smiter is a 4/4 for 3 with a not completely irrelevant ability. It doesn't see really all that much play. Deadbridge Goliath is a 5/5 for 4 with an ok ability that sees literally no play at all. 2/2 for 2 just is not good enough.tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner-
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In post 1808, Thestatusquo wrote:Also, on a completely different line of discussion, I am pleased with the revisions to the trigger rules.
what happened to them? I fear I'm not exactly up to date with mtg news.Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.-
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That's a piece of the disparity that's hard to learn, though. Loxodon Smiter is a 4/4 for 3 that sees no play. Dreg Mangler is a 3/3 haste for 3 that does see play. Why Haste is worth that extra point isn't immediately obvious. Of coiurse, in this case, there's also the fact that the deck that would want Smiter has several better options, and the deck that wants Mangler doesn't.One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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In post 1810, mykonian wrote:In post 1808, Thestatusquo wrote:Also, on a completely different line of discussion, I am pleased with the revisions to the trigger rules.
what happened to them? I fear I'm not exactly up to date with mtg news.
Depending on the tournament, triggers need to be declared with various strictness- so if you forget to declare Exalted, you just don't get that boost, and you aren't allowed to back up and redo. Same if you forget to put Rancor back in your hand. At FNMs, you're generally allowed to go back and redo a trigger, if it doesn't otherwise affect the game state, if you catch it before your next turn; in higher level tourneys, you just miss out.
This means that even if an ability doesn't say "may", you can forget that it triggers, and you're just SOL. The caveat is that the opponent is allowed to remind you, if the ability is a detrimental one.One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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In post 1807, Thestatusquo wrote:Is it even necessary for me to chime in here and mention that the power level disparity between mayor and hamlet is so big that I am shocked that I have even, just now, uttered them in the same sentence?
What?
The difference is huge for my deck and what its trying toaccomplish., one power is huge. Not dying to static tocasters is huge.being able to play hell raisers and have mayor not die to augue of bolas is huge.
Obviously its not DA BEST FUCKING 2 DROP S NA MUST GET
But it means a lot for the deck im trying to build and its cards like these i POSTED asking foeFate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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For advice fo I KNOW what sees play already and the meta
What I DONT know are unsung niche cards from a set I didn't play that would be good in my deck
I don't see why this concept is hard to graspFate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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HOWEVER if I were to take out the gimmickiness I think my deck would look like this:
Spoiler: Casual Mode
Spoiler: More competitive FNM styleLast edited by Fate on Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:01 pm, edited 2 times in total.Fate is absurdly beautiful. 運命に弄ばれる
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In post 1795, Thestatusquo wrote:In post 1792, AGar wrote:http://www.channelfireball.com/articles ... o-7-drops/
Holy shit I want to try this.
As much as I like TWoo, I think this deck is just a bad version of the junk reanimator deck that was popular right after return came out. How exactly is red better than thragtusk/mulch/trackers instincts/mana dorks/craterhoof?
I don't think it is.
I really just like the concept of "LOL7DROPS." more than anything. I'm not saying it's a great deck, definitely looks to have its holes, it just looks fun to me.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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In post 1813, Thestatusquo wrote:Nope. That is in fact exactly what they just changed away. A trigger only becomes missed at the point a player is forced to make a decision. That means if you attack with exalted triggers and they block forgetting about the triggers, they still happen.
Well, then I've been completely misplaying it. We've been playing that a trigger becomes missed when you pass priority after the trigger should have happened.One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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@Fate: Ash Zealot, Gore-House Chainwalker, Rakdos Shredfreak are all better for human gruul aggro deck than Hamlet Captain. And Ulvenwald Tracker is human removal on a stick.One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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Fate, I would seriously consider cutting the wild beastmasters. Without pump spells or effects for it's just a mediocre 1/1 for 3 - it'll give your guys like, no noticeable effect at all. Hamlet captain and ranger's guile, quite apart from the fact that you probably want to be saving the latter to use as a pseudo-counterspell most of the time, also don't amplify it very much, and that just leaves ghor-clan rampager. Which is obviously a powerful interaction, but I'm not sure it's worth having in your deck. Also super awkward that it never evolves experiment 1.
The second awkward thing is that all your dudes are small, and you have pit fight. I'll be blunt here, most of the time pit fight just wont clear dudes out of the way like you want it to. Searing spear is 3 damage, which is about the high end for your pit fight damage - yes in some dreamworld you might have a 6/6 rubblebelt raider and get to eat a thragtusk, but I think it's more likely that you're stuck with a 2/2 against an augur of bolas or something and pit fight is just dead in your hand where searing spear is not.
If you can pick up rancors, do that cause that card is sweet and awesome and the best thing. Plus if you make any other green beatdown decks rancors go in that as well.(10:50:24 PM) xcaykex: GODDAMNIT I DONT WANNA GET RID OF MY TENTACLE RAPE PORN
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In post 1819, Sudo_Nym wrote:In post 1813, Thestatusquo wrote:Nope. That is in fact exactly what they just changed away. A trigger only becomes missed at the point a player is forced to make a decision. That means if you attack with exalted triggers and they block forgetting about the triggers, they still happen.
Well, then I've been completely misplaying it. We've been playing that a trigger becomes missed when you pass priority after the trigger should have happened.
That was the proper way to play it until this update. Of course it was also only for professional/competative REL not FNM/prereleases/casual.Taking a break from the site.-
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Wild Beastmaster seems like it would be sweet with Bloodrush, but you've got to be careful with the timing.
chamber wrote:In post 1819, Sudo_Nym wrote:In post 1813, Thestatusquo wrote:Nope. That is in fact exactly what they just changed away. A trigger only becomes missed at the point a player is forced to make a decision. That means if you attack with exalted triggers and they block forgetting about the triggers, they still happen.
Well, then I've been completely misplaying it. We've been playing that a trigger becomes missed when you pass priority after the trigger should have happened.
That was the proper way to play it until this update. Of course it was also only for professional/competative REL not FNM/prereleases/casual.
Right, but I've also been playing with the update that mandatory abilities can be missed like that, too. So it's been a crazy mishmash.
Hell, I mostly play on MTGO anyway, which doesn't allow you to miss triggers in any event.One time, back in 'nam, Sudo was set upon by an entire squadron of charlies. He challenged them all to a game of Pictionary, which he won resoundingly. The charlies were forced to not only surrender the skirmish, but also their world-famous chili recipe, which Sudo sold to Texas for a hefty profit. Sudo is a master of diplomacy.-
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Yep. Like 95% of rules issues would be eliminated if real world just worked like mtgo. Unfortunately, that's an unrealistic expectation. XD
Also, fate, this is you: "DON'T TRY TO MAKE MY DECK GOOD TELL ME ABOUT CARDS THAT AREN'T AS GOOD AS THE ONES THAT YOU COULD SUGGEST BECAUSE I THINK I AM A UNIQUE AND SPECIAL SNOWFLAKE"tout comprendre c'est tout pardonner
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