Mini #381-Werewolf: Cancelled

[Atticus]

Scummi

er

?

Which two people do you have in mind?

[Lowell]

Oh, man, I fell for Stalling's brilliant trap. Touche, great sir.

Seriously, people. Vote stands. Nobody confesses to being scum to "start conversation". What's the conversation? "Oh, you're scum, okay, I vote you."

[Green Crayons]

Atticus:

Green Crayons, "Scagain" is meant to say "SC, again"

Oh, indeed so. I don't catch the small things, apparently. So what was it about Stalling's post 75 that made you go from not wanting to vote SC (post 74) to convinced he was scum (post 76)?

[Atticus]

Also, I will say this a second time,

any discussion about my slaking_master account DOES NOT BELONG HERE.

That.

[trabony]

unvote

and

vote: stallingchamp

, too obvious.

[Echo419]

GC: Lowell vs. Stalling.
I think, in retrospect, that Stalling is overall more suspicious than Lowell. Lowell could be an overeager townie, but I can't find a good explanation for SC's actions.
But I'd like a vote count before I vote.

[conflux]

Unvote

FoS-That-Will-Probably-Turn-Into-A-Vote-When-I-Get-A-Votecount: StallingChamp

He claimed mafia.

[conflux]

EBWOP: And yes, I'm back.

[Rathyr]

The "Sundae" vote count

Lowell (1) -

StallingChamp

Jack (1) -

Elias_the_thief

StallingChamp (4) -

Atticus, Trabony, CoolBot, Lowell

With eleven alive it will take six votes to lynch.

[trabony]

FOS: Echo

, why is echo going after someone else when Stallingchamp is by far the scummiest? Is he trying to pretend he's not with Lowell or something? And also trying to not look bandwaggony? I'm refusing to vote for anyone but Stallingchamp but Echo isn't doing himself favours.

[Echo419]

What are you talking about? Did you not find Lowells's "plans" suspicious? They appeared to be an attempt to set up power roles for a kill. Then there was the 5th vote on SC from him. He isn't as scummy as SC, but he isn't pure as driven snow either.
I've decided not to vote yet. We need more discussion out of this day. I also think the SC bandwagon is a bit too convenient, the way it was the second one that appeared and how it piled up so fast.

[trabony]

You're right that it is fast but there is a reason, he claimed that he is scum. Then gave his reason as "to start discussion". What are we supposed to do? First rounds almost nearly end up with an innocent being lynced, but this game we have an oppurtunity to avoid that.

[CoolBot]

there was the 5th vote on SC from him

Since SC should be lynched, voting him isn't scummy.

[Green Crayons]

Since SC should be lynched, voting him isn't scummy.

Because scum never vote for their brethen, especially when one of them does something incredibly stupid and everyone else is voting them.


Atticus: ..How did that put "scum" in bright neon lights above his head? I just don't see it.

[CoolBot]

Where did I say voting SC was proof of innocence. All I said was that a vote was not scummy by itself. And there is no point to delaying the lynch, since scum will be laying low by now, waiting for the inevitable to happen. SC's stunt basically ended any usefulness to be had from this day.

[Green Crayons]

Where did I say that you were insinuating that voting SC was proof of innocence? You said that voting SC wasn't scummy, and I was saying that, regardless, scum do vote for each other. Therefore, while simply voting for SC in and of itself might not be a "scummish" action, that doesn't mean that we should not scruitinize those that have voted for SC.

What it does appear that you were saying, is that because SC did something incredibly scummish/stupid, vote placement is of no consequence. I disagree, as scum vote for each other, but - let's smother this more with WIFOM - undoubtedly they do so only in relation to the general sentiments of town figures.

For example, if SC turns up scum, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if one of the people who voted/are voting him is his buddy. With that said,

Vote: Stalling

. At this point I'm curious to find out his alignment.

[Jack]

Where did I say voting SC was proof of innocence. All I said was that a vote was not scummy by itself. And there is no point to delaying the lynch, since scum will be laying low by now, waiting for the inevitable to happen. SC's stunt basically ended any usefulness to be had from this day.

bah, I don't see that at all. You seem in an awful hurry to get this day over.

Why isn't there any usefulness to be had?

[trabony]

To anyone who hasn't seen the game in a long time:

-Stalling said Coolbot and Jack COULD be human
-Stalling claimed scum
-Atticus voted Stalling and FOSed Coolbot and Jack since Stalling seemed to be on their side
-Stalling FOSes Coolbot and Jack (wtf!!!)
-Stalling says he claimed scum to start a discuission (wtf!!!)

My theory is that Stalling is Slaking's "brother" because when I looked at slaking's previous game he was never this stupid.

[Echo419]

Oops. I got confused. I thought Lowell's 5th vote on SC was

before

SC did his little claim. That's why I was seeing Lowell as more suspicious for a little bit.
Guys, SC has 5 votes. Are we willing to end the day now? If so, I'll go ahead and hammer.

[Atticus]

...
Atticus: ..How did that put "scum" in bright neon lights above his head? I just don't see it.

How you ask? It's elementary, my dear!

Anywaaaays...

He has something to hide, what has a townie to hide? PERIOD

[Elias_the_thief]

If you want to. As I see it, Stalling would not be continuing to play the game if he seriously meant his claim. What's the point? If he was seriously claiming scum he would have done it and not appeared in the game again. I could see him trying to defend himself if his brother did it, but thats not what he said. I seriously don't think it's the right move, but it's not my decision really. I'll keep holding my vote.

[CoolBot]

I figure he though we might actually make that deal of his. When it was clear we wouldn't, he backed off as hard as he could with his "creating discussion" arguement.

[StallingChamp]

To anyone who hasn't seen the game in a long time:

-Stalling said Coolbot and Jack COULD be human
-Stalling claimed scum
-Atticus voted Stalling and FOSed Coolbot and Jack since Stalling seemed to be on their side
-Stalling FOSes Coolbot and Jack (wtf!!!)
-Stalling says he claimed scum to start a discuission (wtf!!!)

My theory is that Stalling is Slaking's "brother" because when I looked at slaking's previous game he was never this stupid.

I already explained why I FoSed Cool and Jack, I FoSed

EVERYONE

who voted me for the "claim".

Also, I have posted under s_m that I am indeed the same person.

Finally, please stop bringing up s_m when considering to lynch me. There are zero similarities between the 2. I challenged people to name a similarity and the only one listed is "you claimed scum and you were". Again, assuming I did that, it wasnt a claim, it was a game-ending post.

[Green Crayons]

Finally, please stop bringing up s_m when considering to lynch me. There are zero similarities between the 2.

I agree - that's why I find people who are voting you for that reason to be suspicious, it's like they're fishing for reasons to vote you, which is more condemming depending upon your alignment.

Which is why someone should just finish this day and get it over with.

[Green Crayons]

Eh, it's late and I didn't preview my post. Reworded to properly get my ideas across:

I agree - that's why I find people who are voting you solely for that reason to be suspicious. This, of course, does not exempt you personally from suspicion, but when people appear to be fishing for votes when they have perfectly good in-game reasons, it just seems a bit weird. Of course, the suspicion that I'll attribute to this stretching of logic to vote you will really depend on your alignment. Therefore, I want to see you done away with already (for previous suspicions as well as the one just mentioned).

This is why someone should just finish this day and get it over with.