Kingmaker II-Game Over
-
-
Phoebus Hall Monitor
- Hall Monitor
- Hall Monitor
- Posts: 3743
- Joined: October 19, 2003
-
-
Twomz Cliqued On
- Cliqued On
- Cliqued On
- Posts: 2981
- Joined: November 21, 2005
- Location: Texas
-
-
Vaughn Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 1168
- Joined: January 2, 2006
- Location: The place where all the Millers are born
-
-
Glork Burdened by Proficiency
- Burdened by Proficiency
- Burdened by Proficiency
- Posts: 14106
- Joined: July 13, 2005
- Location: Dance into the fire
Yeah, I'm way behind too. And I'll be gone until Monday sometime (see V/LA for details). If I have to be replaced, so be it. If not, I'll catch up when I get back.-
-
MrBuddyLee Slightly better than 50-50
- Slightly better than 50-50
- Slightly better than 50-50
- Posts: 5219
- Joined: March 2, 2006
- Location: Phoenix, AZ
Sounds awkward.CDB wrote:Giving up does not help your case, and if you are a townie then it doesn’t help the town win.
Earlier in this post you said why not vote two people since we can, implying looser voting standards in this game. It's odd that you'd then hold back on an MoS vote here.CDB wrote:apart from the me voting MoS bit, which I am not and don’t feel is necessary yet. If MoS continues to refuse to vote, that opinion will change.
Sounds awkward.CDB wrote:I hadn’t thought of doing that in a scum-king situation, but I’m glad you did.
Sounds awkward.CDB wrote:FoS: Petroleumjelly No need to keep letting us know. It sounds like you’re anxious.
Wanted an LOE early.
Sounds awkward.CDB wrote:It just looks like he’s trying to fall into line with everyone else (blending in, as I’m sure you know, helps scum).
So yeah, not a huge case against CDB, it's more the awkward nature of his words that makes me suspect he's scum trying to pro-town. But not all that much, actually, so I'm going to look at other suspects.dialing in mildly protown reads since 2006-
-
Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Posts: 15163
- Joined: October 30, 2004
- Location: Sleeping with the Godfather's Daughter
We have a LOE?MrBuddyLee wrote:unvote everyone, vote: Channel Delibird
I don't get an ounce of scumminess from bird/Phoebus's posts yet, just laziness and weirdness. I don't groove on some of the suspicions CDB expresses, and I'll go into detail on those in another post soon. I also want to evaluate pabs because he's said some weird shit.
I think even though we've got a LOE we should still all keep commenting on people off the list. I'll do a full reread and post tonight if possible.
Saying someone is not scummy because of something they did != Saying they can't be scummy. It's a negative declaration (that is, he's saying that this action can't be construed to make them scummier, but it doesn't make them innocent, either)spectrumvoid wrote:I don't like the way box specially picked out that comment of pablito's to accuse pablito of implying he's a mason. There have been many (way too many) other totally weird comments that some people have said in this game that I can't make sense of.
I am more-or-less satisfied with pablito's latest post explaining his actions. And sounvote: pablito
MBL: I don't get why you're saying that people who are lazy and weird cannot be scum.
Sounds awkward.MrBuddyLee wrote:he's scum trying to pro-town.Permanent V/LA.-
-
MrBuddyLee Slightly better than 50-50
- Slightly better than 50-50
- Slightly better than 50-50
- Posts: 5219
- Joined: March 2, 2006
- Location: Phoenix, AZ
-
-
MrBuddyLee Slightly better than 50-50
- Slightly better than 50-50
- Slightly better than 50-50
- Posts: 5219
- Joined: March 2, 2006
- Location: Phoenix, AZ
-
-
petroleumjelly he/him/hisThirteenthly, ...he/him/his
- Thirteenthly, ...
- Thirteenthly, ...
- Posts: 6219
- Joined: November 27, 2005
- Pronoun: he/him/his
- Location: Tacoma, WA
Well, I was practically forced into giving a LoE whether I wanted to our not, considering:
And that deadline has yet to be retracted. Since I amBMQ wrote:Retractable deadline set for Sunday, October 8th. Sooo sloooow....tryingto stick with my own guidelines, I felt compelled to construct a list so I could at least make a more informed decision (while also giving ample notice) if the deadline was not retracted and I was forced to make an execution.
As it is, I will have to toss aside my own 48-hour "grace period" for final pleas with the current deadline, although I still have not found anybody I would actually bewillingto execute other than Bird1111 and Phoebus. Although I really,reallyhate the "I purposely act scummy" schtick, I still think Pabs is town, and I will not execute somebody I think is town (unless there is a distinct strategical advantage, or some extraordinary factor). I frankly only threw CDB on the list to see if it would give me some interesting reactions (i.e. would people suddenly start 'suspecting' him because I 'suspected' him, or would people disagree and look elsewhere? etc.). I still have to think over the comments, but I was intrigued by the people who voted for CDB (as well as Bird1111 and Phoebus) seemingly on the basis that I had 'voted' for him. I am wondering if that was a subtle way of trying to gain preference in my opinion. I will try to focus my next reread on that if I have time this weekend."Logic? I call that flapdoodle."-
-
Thok Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Posts: 7013
- Joined: March 28, 2005
Sorry, I've been neglecting this game (and some others) the last few days.
I really dislike Pablito's play; not so much for the people he's attacking/defending, but because I feel like he's coming up with the crappiest reasons for his attacks. Honestly, if he is town, he should realize that a badly reasoned attack on somebody might as well be a defense of that person, since all it does is make them look like a martyr. I don't see a reason to unvote, him, because I do think he's been scummy, but I doubt we get any info from executing him other than his role alignment.
That said, of the people PJ has suggested I'd probably prefer a Phoebus execution to a bird execution (although I should reread bird's posts to see what he's been doing). I think I'd prefer a Vaughn or Ameliaslay lynch over either of them for the reasons I've mentioned before.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
-
pablito Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3739
- Joined: January 5, 2006
- Location: en route somewhere else
-
-
Thok Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Posts: 7013
- Joined: March 28, 2005
I understand how your "style of play" is supposed to work. I think you do a poor job of implementing it.pablito wrote:Thok, you'll never understand my style of play and I've accepted it. We've gone over it before.
Honestly, if you think your style of play is working correctly, show me some games where you were town, and your current style of play lead to scum being lynched.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
-
pablito Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Mafia Scum
- Posts: 3739
- Joined: January 5, 2006
- Location: en route somewhere else
-
-
Thok Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Posts: 7013
- Joined: March 28, 2005
-
-
PookyTheMagicalBear Pooky got your back
- Pooky got your back
- Pooky got your back
- Posts: 40838
- Joined: August 17, 2003
Pj
just pass the buck to me.
i'll get things doneShow"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
-Norwee-
-
spectrumvoid Problem Child
- Problem Child
- Problem Child
- Posts: 3998
- Joined: June 9, 2006
-
-
Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Posts: 15163
- Joined: October 30, 2004
- Location: Sleeping with the Godfather's Daughter
PJ, don't execute Phoebus. You'll regret it. He's definitely protown. Just because people don't like the way he's playing doesn't make him antitown. I've played with Phoebus as both scum and town, and this is different from either, so him acting differently is not a scumtell. I'm more inclined to believe he's town BECAUSE of the way he's acting. You're better off executing bird.Permanent V/LA.-
-
Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Posts: 15163
- Joined: October 30, 2004
- Location: Sleeping with the Godfather's Daughter
-
-
Thok Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Posts: 7013
- Joined: March 28, 2005
OK, humor me. Why are you including Ubertimmy with me and Yos2?Mastermind of Sin wrote:You should also consider executing one of Thok, Ubertimmy, or Yosarian2. I bet at least one of them is scum.
I can see reasonable playstyle reasons/metagame reasons for grouping me and Yos2 as similar players in this game (both of us were in Kingmaker I, were protown, made it to endgame, and have been relatively talkative. We're probably also both fairly likely to be nightkilled early on by scum if we are town). The inclusion of ubertimmy, who doesn't satisfy any of the previous conditions, strikes me as strange.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
-
Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Posts: 15163
- Joined: October 30, 2004
- Location: Sleeping with the Godfather's Daughter
-
-
BrianMcQueso My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- My Wit is Broken
- Posts: 1394
- Joined: November 8, 2004
- Location: San Francisco
The deadline will be pushed to Wednesday, Oct. 11th. This new date is final.
Vote Count!
*King petroleumjelly* (1): Bird1111, Phoebus, ChannelDelibird, Pablito
Ameliaslay (1): Phoebus, Nightson
bird1111 (4*):
cardb0ardb0x (5): Phoebus, pablito
ChannelDelibird (4*): cardb0ardb0x, Mert
CrashTextDummie (2): pablito, bird1111
Dead Rikimaru (1):
Fritzler (0): CrashTextDummie
Glork (1): pablito, Phoebus, Rosso Carne
Machiavellian-Mafia (0): pablito
Mastermind of Sin (1):
Mert (3): cardb0ardb0x, bird1111, Phoebus
MrBuddyLee (3): ChannelDelibird
Nightson (3): pablito, Phoebus
pablito (9*): Mert, UberTimmy, ChannelDelibird, Nightson
Phoebus (8*): MrBuddyLee, cardb0ardb0x, pablito, Mert
PookyTheMagicalBear (0): Glork
Rosso Carne (1): petroleumjelly
spectrumvoid (1): Phoebus
Thok (0): pablito, bird1111, Vaughn, Dead Rikimaru, Nightson, Ameliaslay
Twomz (0): Yosarian2, cardb0ardb0x, CrashTextDummie, Phoebus
UberTimmy (1): ChannelDelibird, MrBuddyLee, spectrumvoid, cardb0ardb0x
Vaughn (1):
Yosarian2 (1): Mastermind of Sin"Only a fool quotes himself." -BrianMcQueso-
-
Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Posts: 15163
- Joined: October 30, 2004
- Location: Sleeping with the Godfather's Daughter
-
-
Thok Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Disgrace to SKs everywhere
- Posts: 7013
- Joined: March 28, 2005
You're seriously claiming that I've been "lying low"? I've already been in arguments with Ameliaslay, Vaughn, Pablito, and now you. I believe the only people with more posts in this game than me are Glork and pablito.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Also, anyone who is voting a lot of people but has no one voting them is suspect in my book. That means they're spreading suspicion around while laying low enough that no one is really watching them. Add Twomz to the list right next to Thok tyvm.
Also, using votes as a criterion for whether somebody has been picking up/spreading suspicions seems suspect coming from you, given that you've specifically chosen not to vote. If you'd actually have backed up your "gut" with votes, you'd currently be voting at least four people (possibly more depending on how one interpreted your past history), while only having one on you.I replaced into Chess Mafia for 6 months, and all I got was a win and this lousy sig.-
-
Yosarian2 (shrug)
- (shrug)
- (shrug)
- Posts: 16394
- Joined: March 28, 2005
- Location: New Jersey
-
-
Mastermind of Sin Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Cassandra Complex
- Posts: 15163
- Joined: October 30, 2004
- Location: Sleeping with the Godfather's Daughter
Sorry, I didn't mean laying low as in not posting. I just meant that he wasn't garnering much suspicion/attention. The whole comment was aimed at Twomz anyways. You were already on the list, hence why I asked to have Twomz put up on the list next to you (It's an alphabetical list )Thok wrote:
You're seriously claiming that I've been "lying low"? I've already been in arguments with Ameliaslay, Vaughn, Pablito, and now you. I believe the only people with more posts in this game than me are Glork and pablito.Mastermind of Sin wrote:Also, anyone who is voting a lot of people but has no one voting them is suspect in my book. That means they're spreading suspicion around while laying low enough that no one is really watching them. Add Twomz to the list right next to Thok tyvm.
Also, using votes as a criterion for whether somebody has been picking up/spreading suspicions seems suspect coming from you, given that you've specifically chosen not to vote. If you'd actually have backed up your "gut" with votes, you'd currently be voting at least four people (possibly more depending on how one interpreted your past history), while only having one on you.
So what if I'd have at least 4 votes if I was voting? I said I'd tell people my suspicions without voting and I am. And I DO have a vote on me, so there is at least one person who definitely suspects me.
No one has to listen to what I'm saying, I'm just telling you who I think is probably scum. If you don't listen to me, too bad. If you do, good for you. I just figured that since Phoebus is definitely not a good choice for execution today, I should proactively help in finding alternatives instead of just bitching about people wanting to execute him.Permanent V/LA.
Copyright © MafiaScum. All rights reserved.