Mini 1397: War is Hell (Game Over)

[Zdenek]

(Oh, and zdenek, it was already explained by someone; Quadz, I think. Go look back at when you voted Yos and then search the posts afterwards and you'll find it.)

Voided, I want to get a read on you, so I want you to actually explain some of the the things I've asked you to.

[Tierce]

Why did you link to the Dresden files game?

Because you had a REALLY AWESOME scumread on our slot (Sixty) by the time you died. After we lynched GreyICE-scum with accurate meta that you (as always as with something not done by you) decided to discard as a bad case. Yes, Zdenek--your meta methods are crap. Sorry, but you need to learn how to do actual meta analysis.

We pinned strong scum (as a player and as a role) on meta on D1, lynched him through a wagon stall that promised to let him skate due to V/LA stuff, and you called us scum in the dead QT. What seriously

come on now

.

I mean, seriously. :/ Get your scumdar checked. I'm not here to lecture you (even though I just did but bear with me here there is a lot of pent-up frustration

feel free to lash back but let's keep this minimally brief this is about playstyle not alignment

), I'm here explaining why I am so irritated with you after literally MONTHS of the same bullshit and why I was so annoyed to see a tunnel start on page SIX in this game and the pages of walls that followed. I'm explaining why having a Townread on you does nothing for my desire of keeping you alive other than the fact that we can't kill everyone and win.

Okay I'm done. Back to ignore mode.

[Tierce]

It would be somewhat funny if sixty turned out to be scum who killed me off because they were afraid of being accused of bussing GreyICE, who wasn't even their buddy

I mean COME ON. Me and Vi. Afraid of YOU. After I outlived TWO REAL LIFE MONTHS of tunneling from you, I would be hydraing with

Vi

and be afraid of

you

.

Whatever. Done rambling because this isn't going anywhere in

this

game and it's just me venting and talons and scarlet feathers everywhere now. I just wish you'd learn how to read people in general and particular.

[Zdenek]

Why did you link to the Dresden files game?

Because you had a REALLY AWESOME scumread on our slot (Sixty) by the time you died. After we lynched GreyICE-scum with accurate meta that you (as always as with something not done by you) decided to discard as a bad case. Yes, Zdenek--your meta methods are crap. Sorry, but you need to learn how to do actual meta analysis.

We pinned strong scum (as a player and as a role) on meta on D1, lynched him through a wagon stall that promised to let him skate due to V/LA stuff, and you called us scum in the dead QT. What seriously

come on now

.

I mean, seriously. :/ Get your scumdar checked. I'm not here to lecture you (even though I just did but bear with me here there is a lot of pent-up frustration

feel free to lash back but let's keep this minimally brief this is about playstyle not alignment

), I'm here explaining why I am so irritated with you after literally MONTHS of the same bullshit and why I was so annoyed to see a tunnel start on page SIX in this game and the pages of walls that followed. I'm explaining why having a Townread on you does nothing for my desire of keeping you alive other than the fact that we can't kill everyone and win.

Okay I'm done. Back to ignore mode.

Well, I might have had a scum read on your slot, but I was also voting for Thor, who was scum, and that was before Klick faked the guilty on him. You lynched GreyICE with every scum in the game on the wagon, so the idea that it was your meta-case that did it is fucking stupid.

As far as my meta-methods go, I don't know, but they at least worked in ADWD to figure out the Regfan's defense of Feysal didn't make a lot of sense, and pegged Feysal as scum trying to over-correct for something he was called out for in his previous scum game.

Tierce you should stop wasting time lecturing me because it's obnoxious and actually read the game. It's not as though I set out to tunnel on people.

[Zdenek]

It would be somewhat funny if sixty turned out to be scum who killed me off because they were afraid of being accused of bussing GreyICE, who wasn't even their buddy

I mean COME ON. Me and Vi. Afraid of YOU. After I outlived TWO REAL LIFE MONTHS of tunneling from you, I would be hydraing with

Vi

and be afraid of

you

.

Whatever. Done rambling because this isn't going anywhere in

this

game and it's just me venting and talons and scarlet feathers everywhere now. I just wish you'd learn how to read people in general and particular.

That was after MoI commented that he thought my reads were good, and I first sent in my investigation on you before changing it, so I thought he was referring to that.

[Tierce]

Tierce you should stop wasting time lecturing me because it's obnoxious and actually read the game. It's not as though I set out to tunnel on people.

My point is that you should learn from your mistakes, is all. If you are brought into D9 of a game, it's not because you're doing everything right and can just shift the blinders from Person A to Person B. That is what you did on ADwD and that is the impression I get from other games of yours. Being brought to LyLo is generally a bad sign, and should entice you to not only review your present game, but your method in general.

As I said, this was venting, and I'm not interested in your lynch. But please try to actually analyze your play once in a while, especially when your previous results are not satisfactory. Either way, I'm done.

[Zdenek]

Tierce you should stop wasting time lecturing me because it's obnoxious and actually read the game. It's not as though I set out to tunnel on people.

My point is that you should learn from your mistakes, is all. If you are brought into D9 of a game, it's not because you're doing everything right and can just shift the blinders from Person A to Person B. That is what you did on ADwD and that is the impression I get from other games of yours. Being brought to LyLo is generally a bad sign, and should entice you to not only review your present game, but your method in general.

As I said, this was venting, and I'm not interested in your lynch. But please try to actually analyze your play once in a while, especially when your previous results are not satisfactory. Either way, I'm done.

Where the fuck did I say that I did everything right? What the fuck is wrong with you? In this game, I've tried to move on from tunneling on Kinetic. Jesus Christ.

[Tierce]

And that's fine.

[Zdenek]

Why did you choose to bring this up here, rather than in the post-game discussion for ADWD, where it would have been appropriate? I mean, I can understand you linking the game to explain where you are getting your meta from, but the rest of your complaints hardly belong here.

[Tierce]

As I said, this was venting

[Yosarian2]

I will say that if Scooby flips scum, then Zdenek might actually be town. The fact that Scooby called Zdenek town for most of the game, but then changed it to"third party" in response to Zdenek attacking him, makes me think "Scooby-scum, Zdenek-not scum with Scooby".

[MattP]

(4) Scooby - Zdenek, Yosarian2, Kinetic, quadz
(3) MattP - scooby, Lady Lambdadelta, Xalxe
(2) Albert B. Rampage - Voidedmafia, quadz08
(1) Tierce - kanyeknowsbest
(1) Xalxe - MattP

(1) Not voting - Tierce, ABR

[MattP]

VOTE: Scooby

[MattP]

Before we start hurting I want to assign three townreads to do the hurting.

KANYE, ABR and VM are obvtown and I vote them.

[Yosarian2]

I personally would like to see us wait until we get a majority, unless this drags on for too long.

That being said, it's probably time for Scooby to claim, if he wants to.

Before we start hurting I want to assign three townreads to do the hurting.

KANYE, ABR and VM are obvtown and I vote them.

I'm not sure I see the logic behind this. Why have only a few "designated hitters" here, what's the advantage to that?

[MattP]

Because if Scooby is town then hasn't there been a previous scum game where all scum in the hurt pile gained rage? This has been mentioned several times now

[Zdenek]

Yosarian was also scum in WiHII, so he should know this.

[Voidedmafia]

Before we start hurting I want to assign three townreads to do the hurting.

KANYE, ABR and VM are obvtown and I vote them.

But I'm not voting Scooby?

[quadz08]

Before we start hurting I want to assign three townreads to do the hurting.

KANYE, ABR and VM are obvtown and I vote them.

I think the logic here is solid, but I dunno if we'll find a good number of common townreads to do it. I'm worried that 3 is rather slow... I'm not sure if that actually matters or not, though.

fwiw, my 3 votes are Kanye, VM, and Tierce.

[MattP]

But I'm not voting Scooby?

That doesn't matter? What matters is that you are the hurter because you're obvtown regardless of your read on him. Otherwise you're allowing someone else to hurt him that you don't know the alignment of, which would be stupid and anti-town

So I don't see the problem for you.

[Tierce]

Hey Matt. How do you think it's okay to ask me to unvote you, but then you vote an inactive slot the moment you get the chance to put him at 5 votes?

well I'm sick and

not postiung untilk fridy becaus of hospitl shit

but ok

i was not talkign to ayou anyways

scumbag

[kanyeknowsbest]

scooby is town. wth matt?

[kanyeknowsbest]

matt explain your xalxe read to me.

[MattP]

Hey Matt. How do you think it's okay to ask me to unvote you, but then you vote an inactive slot the moment you get the chance to put him at 5 votes?

well I'm sick and

not postiung untilk fridy becaus of hospitl shit

but ok

i was not talkign to ayou anyways

scumbag

I literally don't see how my request has any similarity to me voting scooby. I asked you to unvote me after catching up if you lost your scumread on me. You then unvoted because you didn't have time to catch up. How in any way does that have anything to do with me voting my second-strongest scumread?

scooby is town. wth matt?

• Looks we have retarded town all over again.
  Mattp and Yosa are scum. Please remember that.
  Nrever lynch kanye, kinetic, tierce or abr. zdenek is prob third party now that I think about it. okay.
  peace.

  
  

  oh quadz is town as well. lamdadelta slight town, coyuld be preemptevily bussing matt, but fuck this, ok

  
  

  That was actually fcking terrible what you just posted
  
  Poster fixed.

  
  

  no it was not
  
  who the fuck are you

  
  

  That was actually fcking terrible what you just posted

  
  This was me
  
  Also, this:
  
  

  It's been fun, gentlemen. Kill SPB for me if it's not over when the list is depleted.

  
  [12/5/12 4:11:32 PM] mattypjhu: Phil is the last scum and the game is going to end by tomorrow
  [12/5/12 4:11:34 PM] mattypjhu: And I say this because
  [12/5/12 4:11:53 PM] mattypjhu: A last scum that knows it's over always says something cartoonishly heroic
  [12/5/12 4:12:07 PM] mattypjhu: "GL guys after I die make sure you get that SPB *shakes fist*"
  
  I mean, it was completely over for you by that point so it doesn't really matter but it's possible we in the neighborhood could have switched to PV (some people expressed desire to vig him). Also KKB and I had the NK, not Tammy but it was a cover for when we bought it.

  
  
  I still want an ABR lynch first and foremost

  
  

  "Mattp is scum please remember that" over dramatic heroism bullshit when you have one vote on you

  
  
  Also I don't like your "wth matt" instead of explaining your townread to me so change that.

matt explain your xalxe read to me.

I've explained why I think Xalxe is scum. He's been scum from the part where I called him out and NOTHING he has done has changed that. I can go into why nothing he's done has changed that if you want.

[MattP]

Kanye, you seem to be backing out of your townread on me, why's that?