Actually, reread makes VM a VERY strong townread (and I'm not saying that because he voted ABR, although I do think if ABR flips scum then VM is as good as conftown for building momentum on the ABR wagon when it was in no way a good decision for scum at the time). Specifically his argument with Yos is what makes me feel that:
In post 627, Voidedmafia wrote:
because it looks to me like you were both distancing from him and trying to deter people from killing him at the same time.
I'm voting and hurting him, but at the same time I'm trying to stop people from hurting him? Do you not see how convoluted that sounds if I'm scum trying to bus/distance PV? Also, even if that's the case, so far I've only objected to you hurting PV and not anyone else; if your explanation here is in any way true, why just attack you and not everyone else?
This is the towniest self-defense I've read all game, reads incredibly rational and not over-defensive or accusatory. I actually lost my townread a bit with Yos because of this, because it's a rather stupid accusation from Yos and looks like straw pulling.
In post 631, Voidedmafia wrote:Well, to be more correct, I need to refresh myself as to why Yos felt bad to me. I said that already. If you want to label it as a "wait-and-see" kind of thing, that's fine (cuz it kinda is), but I'm not attacking him right now.
And I also like this A LOT from VM
Going over Yos again, what initially struck me as VERY towny was his unvote on me when momentum was so high for my lynch, although Zdenek actually started the opposition to my lynch. I also thought during my initial catchup that his discussions with PV about not being haywire and hurting people with not enough votes read very logical, but a reread doesn't make it SCUMMY but I can see it as him going, "look at me be town" alternatively. He's a slight townread after a reread, but VM has considerably increased in towniness for me.
Kanye is a strong as fuck townread and I am actually not going to go SPECIFICALLY into why because I think that people already have a townread on him so it makes no difference and because I want to preserve the meta knowledge I have for the future.
Zdenek is a beacon of towniness. His opposition to my lynch and advocation for my towniness was the most ballsy, impressive thing I've seen all game. This is because he didn't just call me town for towncred, and he didn't just lightly defend me to look like he had an opinion, the way he did it showed that he was CRITICALLY scumhunting and had no fear of defending the reads he had. And this has been going on the whole game. Early game he was a bitch about making sure his opinions were heard against Kinetic
In post 640, Zdenek wrote:Yosarian's pattern of votes and his reasons for them is really bothering me now.
His first stated suspicion was on me of OMGUS after Kinetic, Quadz and kdowns had stated their suspicions of me.
His second was on MattP, also for OMGUS, after Tierce, LLD and kdowns had stated their suspicions of him.
Next he votes ABR for not posting.
Next voted PeregrineV, for shooting back at Kinetic because shooting back is a pretty solid scum tell, this was after several people had suggested their suspicions of Peregrine.
Most recently he's been going after Voided for chainsaw defending Peregrine.
His votes on Me, MattP and Peregrine were votes on popular wagons.
His reasons for his votes on me and Matt and for his suspicion on Voided are all weak/boilerplate scum tells.
I also read Voided's concern about Yosarian showing up, putting the fifth vote on Peregrine and then hurting him as quite natural in the context of his earlier comments about wanting to raise the number of votes required to start hurting.
Posts like this read incredibly rational. His rational, uninhibited play all game has been impressive and I'm damn confident that Zdenek, VM, and Kanye are town right now.
)