People who hurt PV:
Tierce (3 points)
Kinetic (2 points)
quadz (2 points)
voided (2 points)
Yos (1 point)
Xalxe (1 point)
Both Kinetic and Yos attempted to hurt PV again, but he was already dead before those hurts resolved.
People who didn't hurt PV:
Albert B. Rampage
kanyeknowsbest
Lady Lambdadelta
MattP
scooby
Zdenek
FOS
Zd, LLD, MattP
All three expressed clear willingness to push the Peregrine V kill, but then backed off when the hurting began. Neither of them hurt PV, despite bring around when the hurting began.
In post 297, Zdenek wrote:
So you've expressed suspicion of me over our disagreement over strategy, and it turns out that you've been ignoring my posts on the matter. Colour me surprised.
In post 64, Zdenek wrote:When making the decision about claiming rage, we should keep in mind the possibility of power roles like the ophans of last game, which may noit accumulate rage at the same rate as others, or stronger roles that accumulate it faster. If there are these roles in the game, they could be outed quickly if we start mass-claiming rage.
Ophans additionally could be outed because of, for instance, a reluctance to use rage.
The case on Matt, while it had reasonable beginnings, has become somewhat unbelievable. For purely wifom reasons, I think he's probably town, so I guess I don't care if you want to kill him, but I'm looking elsewhere.
I don't understand the town reads on Kinetic at all, but there's more scum in the game.
Vote: PeregrineV
There's a reason . . . .
In post 445, Zdenek wrote:unvote: PV
I have to read, and don't want him dead before then.
Three days later, AFTER the hurting begins, suddenly your "reason" has evaporated and you distance yourself from the wagon. What was your reason for voting him, pray tell?
In post 347, MattP wrote:Actually, promise me you will seriously consider my case. And I want Xalxe to die next. And then LLD and then PV. I know you won't agree on LLD but I want those three dead before final 7 no fucking question
In post 394, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Also, I'm down with this. Wanted PV dead from the minute he was posting those votecount shenanigans.
Vote: PV
With PV's town flip, these fence sitters now look quite a bit like scum trying to express "support" for killing PV, while at the same time distancing themselves from any actual involvement. This is a bad thing in this game for the single point that once PV started shooting he became a threat to everyone because of his recklessness. These three directly facilitated PV's ability to continue hurting. If they had helped kill him, PV would never have gotten a second shot off. It is irrelevant that the second shot for some reason failed, because they couldn't have known that was going to happen. Their actions are scummy.
Major FOS
: Xalxe
I separated Xalxe off because he may have been the scummiest of all the "wagon sitters". Xalxe first mentioned his preference for the kill very early:
In post 440, Xalxe wrote: In post 438, Kinetic wrote:At first, yes. But as we've had time to see it, and PV has responded, I feel much more comfortable in it. The 5 came quickly, but they've been building up for a while. And in a way, LLD is 6, so we have 6 players who are ok with hurting our dear scum.
Make it 6.5; the speed makes me balk but as I said, Matt and PV are scum 1 and scum 2.
(this is me not hurting yet until my #3 is addressed)
This was 6 posts and 3 minutes after the first hurt. Perhaps his not hurting PV at this point can be forgiven, for now...
But in the time between the first hurt (Nov. 30: 2:49 PM) until his first hurt (December 2: 12:07 PM) is just under 2 days. PeregrineV made his second hurt was at December 2 at 4:58 AM. Had Xalxe hurt PV before that time, and either one other person, or if he had hurt PV before the end of the day on Nov. 30 and again on December 1st, he could have prevented the second hurt from PV. The fact that for some reason PV didn't hurt me is irrelevant. Xalxe waited for as long as possible to hurt to allow PV as much time to attack me, and then when PV's death was assured at the last minute he jumped in with the second to last hurt.
If scum DO get rage for being on a town kill, Xalxe's play and timing of his hurt is pretty much completely damning.
Unvote; Vote Xalxe