Mafia in La-La Land (Game over!)

[PeregrineV]

So you think anyone that voted for town ends up in the dream?

Right now, I think if you were the first vote for a town wagon, you ended up on the list. Unless you were dead, or the only vote. I half-checked this last week, but it's hard with 3 mods and 6billion replacements.

[PeregrineV]

I was probably 2nd or something on N, I started the Staeg wagon and I was ~middle of Rach.

What's your point though?

PEdit: Ohhhh, does that work with previous days?

I think Quilford said Snake messed a dream or two up, so I ignored those days.

According to what I think, Staeg would be town.

[PeregrineV]

Actually I don't think it would work with Day 1.

Check it out based on flips so far. See where it fails. Discuss it.

[N]

So you think anyone that voted for town ends up in the dream?

Right now, I think if you were the first vote for a town wagon, you ended up on the list. Unless you were dead, or the only vote. I half-checked this last week, but it's hard with 3 mods and 6billion replacements.

My votes yesterday went RachMarie->Staeg->Jarvis->RachMarie. I was 5th(ish) on the Staeg wagon, but first on the Jarvis wagon.

[N]

So you think anyone that voted for town ends up in the dream?

Right now, I think if you were the first vote for a town wagon, you ended up on the list. Unless you were dead, or the only vote. I half-checked this last week, but it's hard with 3 mods and 6billion replacements.

My votes yesterday went RachMarie->Staeg->Jarvis->RachMarie. I was 5th(ish) on the Staeg wagon, but first on the Jarvis wagon.

manho voted MattP and Konowa d1 (I don't know when on the wagon) and I was in the dream that night; day 2, I only voted for RachMarie and wasn't in the dream; day 3, I voted for Konowa (but wasn't first), and was in the dream. From only looking at my own votes, I can see where you're coming from, but I'm not so sure about the first-on-wagon thing.

[DeasVail]

That was with anyone voting town, but the first vote thing sounds more likely.

Ok, well Shii was the first on my wagon Day 1 and she wasn't in the dream (and let's skip the part where we speculate over whether I'm town or not, thanks)

Maybe the wagon would need to be a certain size?

Hmm, and Staeg was first on the Konowa wagon Day 1, and that was pretty big.

PEdit: Yeah, I don't think it quite works.

[PeregrineV]

Day 1 I voted Shamrock, but became first on the PMysterious wagon in one VC. I was in the dream.

Ignored day2 and 3:

-There was an error in the creation of the two dreams that Snake sent out as backup mod. However, as those dreams do give accurate information they will not be modified.

However, my votes those days were still for either 4nxiety or RachMarie.

Same with Day4.

So the only thing I can find in my own votes is the difference between voting for town day1 and not on day4. greygnarl voting matches the pattern also for day4.

I'm asking others if they do too.

[PeregrineV]

Agar/RachMarie was not in the dream night1.

His votes: AGar, then KoC
RachMarie: Hammered PMysterious

Voting town should make her on there (unless hammer excldued), unless it's only being first on a town wagon.

[4nxi3ty]

You don't see petapan's connection to Rach when she was being lynched and he said "no, let's lynch someone in a dream?". Because that sort of points to peta utilizing that rach never appeared in a dream to keep a weak scum partner with a power role alive. His question to you reinforces that. Then there's using two dead scumbuddies to clear a third, which is pretty fucking sketchy especially since it let him glide with a townread on his partner forever and always.

i don't know i saw it more as not wanting to lynch a pr and he didn't say rach was definitely town from the dead scumbuddies.

plus these felt like rach was buddyingup to peta:

Thanks for explaining it Peta

The thing is Peta is correct, the wagon has built up fast and even if we are all sure he is scum, we need to give time for others to respond including the lynchee. Day just started.

and i thought it was odd how seastorm rejoined out of the blue to vote KoC.

It's fucking terrible.

then help me lynch him. staeg's dream is the only list that jarvis doesn't appear on. Assuming I am correct about jarvis and the dream is accurate, we can clear deas, n, pv, and greygnarl once jarvis is confirmed scum.

[Party Boat]

Day 5

Votecount 5.5

4nxi3ty

(4) PeregrineV, Empking, Jarvis, N

Staeg

(1) DeasVail

DeasVail

(2) Staeg, petapan

Jarvis

(1) 4nxi3ty

petapan

(1) Nachomamma8

Not Voting

(1) greygnarl

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With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch or 5 to No Lynch.

Deadline hits in (expired on 2012-11-27 07:47:41).

[Quilford]

asdf thanks party boat

[petapan]

i had a pseudo-effortpost i wanted to make but i'm not posting it yet i saved it as a draft

4nx -

i want your reads on me, nacho, and empking

[4nxi3ty]

if you read my posts you would see I have a townread on you and scumread on nacho and why I think that <.<

empking's content is closer to null yet shiidaji's questioning of others is very town

[petapan]

i saw that but you aren't talking to nacho like you have a scumread on him

[4nxi3ty]

that's because I'm trying to convince him to bus jarvis

[Jarvis]

It's funny because 4nx is still trying to peddle the same FLAWLESS REASONING that Rach used to put me at L-1.

Maybe they had a plan.

[petapan]

that's because I'm trying to convince him to bus jarvis

this does not make sense

[Jarvis]

I'd be surprised if it was supposed to. Sarcasm as an escape route.

[4nxi3ty]

that's because I'm trying to convince him to bus jarvis

this does not make sense

its a catch flies with honey instead of vinegar sort of thing

jarvis, my reasoning today is completely different from rach's L-1... and I think you meant to say flawed not flawless.

[greygnarl]

CLAIM

[4nxi3ty]

and who your secondary scumread is?

[DeasVail]

I wouldn't mind a 4nx claim honestly.

[4nxi3ty]

i'll make a deal-- if jarvis can give three other reads, one scum and two town, with an explanation-- i'll claim.

[Jarvis]

I have explained why I am not giving unnecessary scumreads.

Grey's content has been null but he is town because Bitmap's reactions were very town. Staeg is town because you said so.

And so ends the stalling.

[Nachomamma8]

that's because I'm trying to convince him to bus jarvis

this does not make sense

its a catch flies with honey instead of vinegar sort of thing

jarvis, my reasoning today is completely different from rach's L-1... and I think you meant to say flawed not flawless.

but if you think I'm jarvis's partner, then why waste so much time on me as opposed to talking to everyone else...?