Kingmaker II-Game Over

[Mert]

Can you make another list, this time specifically of people who have gone to the effort of downgrading a vote to a FoS?

[pablito]

I'm starting to think less of bird1111 being scum because his reasons for voting and unvoting seem justified now that I've re-read his posts. But he's still not contributing. Therefore unvote: bird1111 but FOS: bird1111.

What's the difference? PJ mentioned he won't take people seriously if they vote all over. I'm trying to limit my votes. And the FOS was just to pressure bird1111 into contributing. Probable misuse of the FOS but that was a better explanation on the point than MBL had provided.

[Thok]

Pablito is definitely scum. Who else sees the slightest bit of difference between an FOS and a vote in THIS game? Only jumpy scum.

For the record, I'm thrilled with MoS's policy of not voting. No problem with it whatsoever.

As a person who frequently uses both FOS's and IGMEOY's in non-Kingmaker games, I could see the difference between a vote and an FOS here; it's showing how confident you are in you judgement.

That said, pablito's last comment gives me a bit of a pablito-bird scum vibe; specifically the fact that pablito is calling out bird for being lurkerish, while changing his vote to an FOS. It's enough to for a

vote bird

.

[Yosarian2]

Plus, votes show up in the vote-count, and the king has already said the vote count will influence his list of execution. So there is definatly a difference between a vote and an fos.

[cardb0ardb0x]

Umm... 1 newbie question. How long are days/nights expected to take in an online mafia game? And yeah, FoSes and votes are kinda different, even though the rules of kingmaker don't specifically state so.

[Twomz]

Weeks, maybe longer.

I rarely ever FOS. The only reason I would is if I don't want to unvote who i'm voting for, but I want to draw attentio to the fact that i'd like to be voting for the other person as well. I see no reason to use FOSs in this game. When people FOS others just to show that they think the other person is acting scummy but isn't quite scummy enough to warrent a vote... I usually take that as a scum tell.

[CrashTextDummie]

Pablito remains an oddity for me. He was too quick to let bird1111 off the hook for what I still believe to be a weird thing to do for a townie (placing votes on two of the most visible players and later unvoting them under the premiss that they were "joke votes", almost as if he got cold feet) and their interaction afterwards doesn't help either.

On the plus side, I'm getting townie vibes from PJ and Box, and to a lesser extent from Glork. Enough so for me to

Unvote: Glork

.

[Yosarian2]

Weeks, maybe longer.

I rarely ever FOS. The only reason I would is if I don't want to unvote who i'm voting for, but I want to draw attentio to the fact that i'd like to be voting for the other person as well. I see no reason to use FOSs in this game. When people FOS others just to show that they think the other person is acting scummy but isn't quite scummy enough to warrent a vote... I usually take that as a scum tell.

(shrug) The big difference for me is that if someone does one thing that looks odd, or somewhat scummy, I FOS them to point out that one thing they did is scummy. I usually only vote someone if I look back at all of their posts and come to the conclusion that based on all of their posts they're more likely then average to be scum at that point in time.

[Ameliaslay]

Umm... 1 newbie question. How long are days/nights expected to take in an online mafia game? And yeah, FoSes and votes are kinda different, even though the rules of kingmaker don't specifically state so.

Getting antsy for it to be night?

[Twomz]

Yos, I suppose my opinion on the matter may be related to my "i assume everyone is scum unless I have reason to suspect their town" attitude towards the game. I feel no remorse voting for someone who I only think is suspicious, or only because of one small argument... now... let me make this clear... I DON'T feel that way about lynching (except, in most cases, on Day 1). After 2 or 3 people have died, there should be some evidence or information to show who's more likely to be scum than others. It's at that point where I start pushing specific wagons, and (God forbid) defending people I think are town (after my first couple of games, I've tried to not defend people I think are town... and the only reason I consitently do it is to put pressure back on the person I think is scum).

[cardb0ardb0x]

Umm... 1 newbie question. How long are days/nights expected to take in an online mafia game? And yeah, FoSes and votes are kinda different, even though the rules of kingmaker don't specifically state so.

Getting antsy for it to be night?

lol kind of, i'm used to entire games taking sometime over half an hour, as opposed to half a year... and it must kind of stink to spend 14 days deliberating and end up lynching a townie...

[Thok]

Umm... 1 newbie question. How long are days/nights expected to take in an online mafia game? And yeah, FoSes and votes are kinda different, even though the rules of kingmaker don't specifically state so.

Getting antsy for it to be night?

lol kind of, i'm used to entire games taking sometime over half an hour, as opposed to half a year... and it must kind of stink to spend 14 days deliberating and end up lynching a townie...

Reading a few games on the site will get you a feel for how long they are. For day one of a game this size, 3 weeks to a month is close to typical, the longest I've seen is two months for a single day. Figure that you're in for a 6 month commitment (assuming you aren't nightkilled or lynched earlier); the first Kingmaker ran for about 5 months and was 8 game days long, for an average of about two weeks a game day (plus some extra time for game nights that should go faster this time around).

There are other sites with faster paced games. And there are occasionally games designed to go faster.

[Twomz]

It also depends a lot on the town... if everyone lurks, then the game kinda dies and it's boring. If people actually talk, then the days seem to fly by.

[Phoebus]

Glorkness, I am hurt.

If you like, those votes were joining bandwagons. Gotta do that at some point of time.
But I voted from what I read.
If I was plain bandwagon hopping, I'd have a couple other candidates as well.

I just called it OMGUS because it came quickly on the heels of me having voted for him.
Not sure I was voted by any other recipients of my vote.

[Mastermind of Sin]

I have a bad feeling about Glork. Just a hunch, but

IGMEOY: Glork

You better be on your best behavior, son.

[ShadowLurker]

I am happy with all my votes at the moment.

I have requested replacement however.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Umm... 1 newbie question. How long are days/nights expected to take in an online mafia game? And yeah, FoSes and votes are kinda different, even though the rules of kingmaker don't specifically state so.

Getting antsy for it to be night?

lol kind of, i'm used to entire games taking sometime over half an hour, as opposed to half a year... and it must kind of stink to spend 14 days deliberating and end up lynching a townie...

umm, how is that even possible on a forum game? Are you playing with like 4 people?

[Twomz]

He means RL mafia, not forum mafia.

[BrianMcQueso]

Rosso Carne

replaces

ShadowLurker

. Hooray! Rosso, I'm going to leave SL's votes as they are now, change them as you will.

P.S.

Vote Count

*King petroleumjelly* (1): Bird1111, Phoebus

Ameliaslay (1): Phoebus
bird1111 (4*):
cardb0ardb0x (7):
ChannelDelibird (1): cardb0ardb0x, Mert
CrashTextDummie (2): pablito, bird1111
Dead Rikimaru (0):
Fritzler (1): CrashTextDummie
Glork (2): PetroleumJelly, pablito, Phoebus
Machiavellian-Mafia (0): pablito
Mastermind of Sin (1):
Mert (4): cardb0ardb0x, bird1111, Phoebus
MrBuddyLee (4): cardb0ardb0x, Glork
pablito (6): MrBuddyLee, Mert, UberTimmy
Phoebus (7*): MrBuddyLee, cardb0ardb0x, pablito, Mert
PookyTheMagicalBear (0): Glork
RossoCarne {Shadow Lurker} (0): {cardb0ardb0x, Twomz, Phoebus, Mert}
spectrumvoid (1): cardb0ardb0x, Phoebus
Thok (0): Fritzler, Ameliaslay, pablito, bird1111
Twomz (1): Yosarian2, cardb0ardb0x, CrashTextDummie, Phoebus
UberTimmy (1): ChannelDelibird, MrBuddyLee, spectrumvoid
Vaughn (0):
vikingfan (0): pablito
Yosarian2 (1): Mastermind of Sin

[Rosso Carne]

kingmaker

FUCK YEAH!!!!

ok, i need to claim. i'm the king.......wait, pj's king. NO WAI!!!!

unvote, vote:pj

[Glork]

I have a bad feeling about Glork. Just a hunch, but

IGMEOY: Glork

You better be on your best behavior, son.

Best behavior my ass.


YOU HAVE NOTHING ON ME!

[Rosso Carne]

id hammah glork

[cardb0ardb0x]

I've kind of been thinking this for a while, but was distracted by defending myself. bird1111's actions don't make a whole lot of sense to me. He seemed to be putting serious thought into voting for pablito/glork. However, once a few things happened (I attracted unwanted attention to that combo, I had voted for them both with bad logic, and bird1111 was questioned about his votes) he immediately played them off as "joke votes."

Well, I still think this. Vote: bird1111

well, what you're saying about phoebus does make sense and his votes do seem telling. however, it's possible phoebus has an explanation, or just voted for whoever looked the most obviously suspicious in their posts, so I'll FoS: phoebus until he can come up with a response.

Phoebus's cavalier tone, and... well, you've read his posts, and I don't find his response convincing. I get the impression that he's either scum or a townie that doesn't care if the town wins. Vote: Phoebus.

Reading over MrBuddyLee's posts, I've found that he just tends to get to the point. What I thought was an overzealous attack from him, was, i guess, just what he does normally. If I'm FoSing or anything him at this point, i'm un-FoSing or whatever.

I also just realized that bird1111 and phoebus are both already under the king's asterisk list... that doesn't really change what I just said regarding them.

[cardb0ardb0x]

Man, i forgot to bold.

Vote: bird1111, Vote: Phoebus

[Rosso Carne]

Pooky scares me.

i do not condone this statement.