Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)

[Tammy]

No! I've just thought this whole time that the PGO killed whoever targetted it and lived even if a killer targeted him. It didn't cross my mind that he died too.

[pappums rat]

WrathChild replaces BloodCovenant effective immediately. Thanks again WC!

[AngryPidgeon]

Hi WC. Is tammy on your team?

[Tammy]

You actually think that BC and I are partners?

(I'm going to go cry in a corner that you think I'm that shitty of a distancer. Hope you're happy.)

[Benmage]

I don't understand why a PGO is also BP apparently ( you are assuming). That doesn't make sense to me.

Isn't that how it works? He kills anyone who targets him?

It depends on the mod and the role.

PGOs kill anyone who targets them.
If that happens first as a repsonse to the targeting, before the effect of the targeter take place, then he would be, in effect, BP.
If the targeting effect affects the PGO, but the targeter also dies, then not BP.

tl/dr

Just got back from gym.

Uhm, Yeah the PGO and Shooter would both die.

[AngryPidgeon]

Just got back from gym.

FLEX YOUR BICEPS FOR US BEN.

But seriously I need to start going. I used to go at lucnh time, but there is no 24 hour in pleasanton. And I hate going at night.

[Zoroaster]

I'm going to need more time for this. Especially at the rate its escalating now. I think I'll be ready by Sunday but I hope I can get this done by Friday. I definitely will not be up to speed by tomorrow. A tad bit too busy then.

[Tammy]

Hey Zoroaster - Vote WC/BC and join a righteousness wagon.

[Kise]

@aco - does it say only night actions used against you?
p.edit: fck you daykiller for confirming day actions. But please, answer Aco.

I want Kise to explain this in more detail.

Look at scum keeping notes on who may have softclaimed.

What that gotta do with day actions tho?

VTs have a very basic PM with very, very little information. Re-read the first post with the example. If you ask anything that sounds like you have flavor (like something about "color" or insinuating that you have day-actions) then you are basically soft-claiming PR. Thus, ugh.

You told me to keep quiet and stop slipping, remember?

[Kise]

Also, I do need to confirm this because I'm not sure what I think about it, and whatever you think about me I've honestly been searching for mafia since the time the game started. I don't know why you were so suspicious of me when I was honest with my reads.

But, Nero Cain neighborized me last night. We didn't talk about much but he asked me for my four suspects with reasoning. I'm not sure what to think about it and thought I'd hold onto it while I figured it out. He didn't give many suspects just said he thought Jason was onto something with Kise and thought that Snifit was suspicious too. I gave him all the thoughts I had on players up to that point, but I do kind of find it weird that he wanted to know my 4 suspects with reasons because he wanted to keep track of suspects. Anyway, do with that what you want.

True Nero? Say IT TO MY FACE THEN BRUH

In fact Ner, I told you on xbox the day before I signed up that the reason I stopped playing mafia was disinterest/time devotion.

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I find it IMPOSSIBLE to believe we have an SK that received a message, got neighborized, AND killed scum.

Maybe everyone just likes targeting the only female player???

Forgive me if this is outguessing the mod, but we've got a cop, neighborizer and mailman... Due to there being a cop, the last two are pretty useless for town. I'ma say one of the latter two aren't town, therefore. I like Nero's play so far, and trying to guess thematically how these roles work, the neighborizing character would have to look friendly to others and not obv-evil. The messenger could be one of those mind reading types from Harry Potter... I'm guessing there's mind reading types anyway.

[Kise]

Also, and I'm not really sure how to handle this, but I received a message last night. I had this role once before and was told the basic purpose of it was to confirm that role and that someone took that action, instead of killing I guess, that night. Anyway, I dont know if i sould have kept that to myself, but ill be able to verify the sender if and when its necessary. For the last two parts, I feel the same and yes.

Did the mod tell you the player's name, or was this person's name included in the message as "hey Tammy, it's me ____."?

I mean, am I on crack? In Otherworld when the PGO quadz was healed by the doctor, the doctor died. Anyone who targets the PGO dies, but the PGO lives.

The PGO is not bulletproof tho. If the heal went through, so would a kill. This means Aco could still die.

[WrathChild]

Hi WC. Is tammy on your team?

Is Tammy Town?

Yeah anyways, don't lynch me because I just replaced in. There's no way I'm gonna read all these pages just to be lynched. Give me at least game one day to prove I'm not a waste.

I haven't read anything but the last page yet. Will catch up today (RL).

[Yates]

Give me at least game one day to prove I'm not a waste.

No dice. You don't get a full game day when this many people think you are scum. Just read your role pm, your slot's ISO, and the last day. That's all you should need.

[Yates]

In unsubstantiated news; I head from a Nero hydra in another game that he is having computer problems so we may be waiting a bit for confirmation.

[Elscouta]

Read (quickly) through the whole thread, and here are my (summed up) thoughts:

Acomists claim: A PGO claim is kinda scummy in my book, and the special "delayed" mecanism doesn't change much to that fact. However, it is not enough to justify a lynch on these grounds only.
Cyberwagon: Zero idea on what sprouted this thing.
Pages 20-30: A whole bunch of crap walls. If some people wanted to smother the town under fake content, they couldn't do better.
Melmond's lynch: Didn't really see what were the grounds for this lynch. It looked awfully convenient. I can understand the "let's end this day" reasoning though.
Discussion about town messenger (Pages 46-48): 100% worthless, 100% nulltell.
Tammy and Benmage: Tammy is as confirmed SK as she could be (not only because of the guilty, but because of her behaviour - not shooting Benmage, etc...). Benmage motivations look town (and well, being a confirmed cop also helps a lot).

Comments on specific players:

Mykonian: very strong town read at the beginning (#822 for example). The hammer w/o a claim hurts though.
PeregrineV: Lots of sniping from the sidelanes. #1100 by ThAdmiral is also a good case. Scummy.
Yates: Most likely town.
Acosmists: Ratio of Contents/Noise is awfully low. Looks to me like scum cruising through the game under the protection of "oh oh oh i'm claimed".
Angry Pidgeon: Couldn't manage to read all the stuff he was sprouting. Looked like overeager town, but unsure.
Nero Cain: How can someone be so abrasive? I considered replacing out on reading some posts. Nulltell.
Kise: Why are people voting him? I see no proper case on him.
snifit: Few posts, but with content, and content that looked quite opportunist (#817). I agree with Mastin #968. Strong scum read.

I retract my previous post on Tammy, as it doesn't seem to me like she wants to cooperate but more like keeping control about her daykill. Unless this changes, i'm ready to lynch her. Also lynches i'd be up for (by order of preference): Snifit, Acosmists, PeregrineV

[Elscouta]

Oh and I forgot. What is with all this BloodCovenant hate? It started to grow only once BC stopped posting, which is odd to say the least.

[jasonT1981]

Oh and I forgot. What is with all this BloodCovenant hate? It started to grow only once BC stopped posting, which is odd to say the least.

I thought there was a wagon on him while he was still in the game? or at least concerns about him?

[jasonT1981]

Oh and I forgot. What is with all this BloodCovenant hate? It started to grow only once BC stopped posting, which is odd to say the least.

I thought there was a wagon on him while he was still in the game? or at least concerns about him?

[WrathChild]

Give me at least game one day to prove I'm not a waste.

No dice. You don't get a full game day when this many people think you are scum. Just read your role pm, your slot's ISO, and the last day. That's all you should need.

I don't think that is particularly fair. Like I said, I'll do my best, my condemning me before I even have a fair chance is a bit poor.

[WrathChild]

EBWOP: ...by condemning...

[WrathChild]

Oh wow yates. What are you trying to pull here? I don't even have a single vote on me. Tammy is by and far the vote leader.

[WrathChild]

Correction, I have a single vote from the vote leader. That's real damning. Who thinks my slot is scummy Yates?

[Yates]

Are you reading faster now? Good. Thanks.

[mykonian]

Oh and I forgot. What is with all this BloodCovenant hate? It started to grow only once BC stopped posting, which is odd to say the least.

It started when benmage needed to single someone out. BC became almost proverbial scum because of that.

And I can't believe my luck. Hi nero, are you a scum neighbourizer?

[Elscouta]

@jason: BC has never been a real wagon (highest votes received were 3 according to mod ISO, and it was in the middle of day1). From what i remember, some people have impressed concern about his play, but nothing like "omg omg lynch him naw"

I don't understand mykonian last post.