Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Legacy (Game Over)

[Yates]

Ah right dayKILL(see the mods note) not DAYVIG that Tammy pretended to do reset my vote on her.

Easily verifiable:

@Mod - Would a Day Vig victim be reported as a Day Kill?

[Acosmist]

So Tammy is majority asks you to shoot Acosmist, you will agree to this?

same question as Benmage

[Yates]

Your powers are weak, old man. They are only active at night.

What was the point of this lie?

Lie?

The Paranoid Gun Owner passively (and involuntarily) kills anyone who targets it during the Night.

The Paranoid Gun Owner passively (and involuntarily) kills anyone who targets it

during the Night.

[Acosmist]

Role name is not paranoid gun owner, btw. That's just the effect of it. So anything of the form "Solid Snake wasn't paranoid!" is dumb.

[Benmage]

Ah right dayKILL(see the mods note) not DAYVIG that Tammy pretended to do reset my vote on her.

Easily verifiable:

@Mod - Would a Day Vig victim be reported as a Day Kill?

Yates you still think she's a Day Vig?

[Acosmist]

yates u mafia?

[Benmage]

Lets shoot Yates and Mastin.

[Tammy]

Okay, I take back my earlier suspicions of Mastin. I don't see him as scum advocating me staying alive if he believes I'm the serial killer, especially when I had raised minor suspicion of him before. He'd be advocating something that could potentially weaken his team, and I don't see him doing that. It reminds me of when we played in GvE and my behavior in advocating an action where if I were scum would have almost certainly cost me the game helping nacho realize that I was more likely innocent than mastin.

[Acosmist]

Lets shoot Yates and Mastin.

seriously, what's the problem here? You're afraid if we think they're scum we won't lynch Tammy?

I'll still lynch Tammy. Just agree with me here

we got scumz

[Yates]

Yates you still think she's a Day Vig?

I do. I agree with Mastin in that I think she has made good shots. She had a chance to shoot you and didn't. I'd like for the Mod to answer my question because you do bring up another good point [re: flavor] but I remain unconvinced.

yates u mafia?

Obviously. That's why I want to keep her alive. So she can shoot me and

you and

my partners.

[Acosmist]

You wanted her to shoot me actually.

[Acosmist]

Oh I forgot:

BONUS: if Ben gets an innocent read tonight, Tammy takes care of Acos without us wasting a lynch.

This HAS to be the play.

Yates y u mafia again ;_;

[Kublai Khan]

I'm not shooting Zabriel/Nero/Acosmist. I have town reads on both Zabriel and Nero. And well, I'm not suicidal. Yeah, I know I'm not living long, but still. That would be a waste.

Vote: Tammy

I'm kinda with Benmage now. Tammy probably won't play ball.

@aco - does it say only night actions used against you?
p.edit: fck you daykiller for confirming day actions. But please, answer Aco.

I want Kise to explain this in more detail.

[Acosmist]

KK damn it I was going to nail Yates on that later.

[Kublai Khan]

Eh. He would have just claimed he missed it.

[Yates]

@Tammy - If Ben ends up with an innocent result tomorrow, would you take the chance at shooting the PGO given that a PGO's powers *typically* only go off at night according to the wiki?

[Benmage]

Yates you still think she's a Day Vig?

I do. I agree with Mastin in that I think she has made good shots. She had a chance to shoot you and didn't. I'd like for the Mod to answer my question because you do bring up another good point [re: flavor] but I remain unconvinced.

Asking the mod is stupid.

The mod will respond hypothetically.

If hypothetically a dayvig existed in the game it would be called a daykill..
Same is hypothetically a daysk existed in the game it would be called a daykill...

So you achieved nothing for us.

Except illustrating that Tammy lied.

[Acosmist]

@Tammy - If Ben ends up with an innocent result tomorrow, would you take the chance at shooting the PGO given that a PGO's powers *typically* only go off at night according to the wiki?

1. I'm not a PGO. I said that explicitly.

2. Yates you are mafia.

[Acosmist]

Yates you still think she's a Day Vig?

I do. I agree with Mastin in that I think she has made good shots. She had a chance to shoot you and didn't. I'd like for the Mod to answer my question because you do bring up another good point [re: flavor] but I remain unconvinced.

Asking the mod is stupid.

The mod will respond hypothetically.

If hypothetically a dayvig existed in the game it would be called a daykill..
Same is hypothetically a daysk existed in the game it would be called a daykill...

So you achieved nothing for us.

Except illustrating that Tammy lied.

and people died

[mastin2]

I don't see him as scum advocating me staying alive if he believes I'm the serial killer, especially when I had raised minor suspicion of him before.

Hate to burst your bubble for thinking I'm town (again ), but honestly, lynching Tammy is so freakin' stupid to do as town that I'd probably do it as scum anyway, for specifically this reason, to generate towncred and say, "I told you so", that it was a bad idea.

That said, Tammy...would you be okay with vigging Aco tomorrow? It'd get rid of a player who we don't want around in lylo, and there's a fair chance that it would do no harm for you.
(By the way, remember how I said Zoro was town, thanks to AV? Only applies if Aco's claim is real. If Aco's scum, so is Zoro.)

[Benmage]

I'm not shooting Zabriel/Nero/Acosmist. I have town reads on both Zabriel and Nero. And well, I'm not suicidal. Yeah, I know I'm not living long, but still. That would be a waste.

Vote: Tammy

I'm kinda with Benmage now. Tammy probably won't play ball.

Playing ball is against her WC.

She won't shoot the quasi PGO.

Back her into a corner enough, and she says fuckit and shoots me.

Why risk it. The benefits gained by keeping her alive are nowhere near worth the risk.

[Tammy]

Spoiler:

I honestly would not be shocked if its Kise/Snifit/Zabriel purely because those two are trying to construe my Mastin pressure as a Snifit defense. I keep saying Snifit is scummy. The only thing bothering me right now is how much of a free pass Mastin is getting for shoving a case that IMO is hinged on a singular sketchy point.

After unvoting mastin, why did you choose to vote me over snifit? I had 2 votes, snifit had 4. And at what point did I become scum to you? I don't see anything from day 1 - nothing longer than your suspicion of snifit.

You have a history of calling people townish if they exhibit a carefree attitude.

Leaning town:
Kise (didn't really acknowledge him in my catchup ^^, but his intro post is a bit carefree, reads genuine)

Prob Scum:
Blood Covenent

Post 285/286: Ok, Benmage is now obvtown for being carefree.

BC, you have been posting elsewhere, why not here?

takes time to read dude.

Prob town.

I don't think my attitude has changed, if much at all. What is it that really bothers you about me connecting you and snifit?

Honestly, I'd rather have been voting RC throughout all of that, but there is apparently no support for that wagon. I already explained this several times. I do not understand why you were ok with Mastin's push. It was a case based on Snifit 'lying' and it was incredibly forced. You were on Mastin's hit list but apparently didn't care that his case ws forced and he was outright lying TO ME about there being any other points to the snifit case that he had made. It was setting of alarm bells all over my head and I couldn't understand why someone listed as a Mastin scumread was ok with getting on Mastin's train (yes I know you had Snifit as a scumread before) when the train was likely going to hit you the next Day. That, combined with you calling me buddies with Snifit really made me think it was more likely you would be scum than Snifit.

Yes, I like gutreads. And I try to quantify them, and it usually comes down to posting style/tone. Someone who doesn't care what people think about them is probably not scum.

Why shouldn't I be bothered about you connecting me to Snifit?

I'm not following this reasoning. Why would it matter that he and mastin had the same scum read even if mastin had a scum read on kise. They could both be right about snifit while mastin could be wrong about kise.

Why would kise worry about mastin's train coming after him the next day? If he were scum wouldn't he be more likely to try to keep around a stronger scum read than him for him to hide behind rather than jump on the train and help it along?

[Acosmist]

mastin and Yates want the SK to kill me so they don't have to deal with us

I wonder if they tried to kill the SK and failed

HMMMM INTERESTING THOUGHTS HUHHHHHHHHHHH

[Benmage]

I don't see him as scum advocating me staying alive if he believes I'm the serial killer, especially when I had raised minor suspicion of him before.

Hate to burst your bubble for thinking I'm town (again ), but honestly, lynching Tammy is so freakin' stupid to do as town that I'd probably do it as scum anyway, for specifically this reason, to generate towncred and say, "I told you so", that it was a bad idea.

MASTIN she has to say yes here, or we lynch her. I.E she must say yes to follow her WC.

Tomorrow she'll come up with a reason not to. IE FOLLOWING HER WC.

You can't get an SK to SUICIDE BECAUSE ITS AGAINST HER WC.

So if you think shes an SK stop being so fucking dumb.

[Yates]

If hypothetically a dayvig existed in the game it would be called a daykill..
Same is hypothetically a daysk existed in the game it would be called a daykill...

You have two things right now making you think she is scum, right? You have the investigation result. Granted, that's a very strong indication of alignment. BUT, we know there are ways of receiving false results. The second point you just stated is that despite the fact she said "dayvig" in her post [would that even set off a kill for an SK?], the mod called it a "daykill." If he can verify that a dayvig would be expressed as a daykill that removes an argument.

In writing this, I am reminded that I have to check her claim again because she obviously didn't post her last kill in thread.