There seems to be some misinterpretation of my comments. As snide and biding as they appeared, the initial jokes were rather lighthearted. When the game was still in its early signup stages, MBL and I were talking on AIM, and we joked about how it'd be "ridiculous" if anyone other than me were to become king, given my performance in Kingmaker I (which, I should add, I do *NOT* expect to repeat -- that was a different game, under different circumstances, and I happened to be on top of my game at the time).
PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:vote Glork
I think his play so far has been more in the interest of browbeating the kingmaker into kinging him for tommorrow than actually
catching scum
Wrong. I haven't
FOUND
scum (at least, not for sure), but I'm sure as hell looking for them. As far as "browbeating the kingmaker," I'll address that later. I'm going to consider this general misinterpretation as honest and legitimate, given my posting thus far. But it's a misinterpretation nonetheless.
Pooky wrote:Glork's a damn fine player, I have the upmost respect for him, I've read Kingmaker I as well as all of the postgame commentary and my conclusion after having read all that is that the person with the most insight into how the game works and has the highest chance of catching scum in KMII is PJ.
How do I come to this conclusion? I've played quite a few games with PJ, on the forums and on scumchat, he's HIGHLY analytic, actually keeps histories of people he plays with to spot differences, and most important of all, when he's given a position, he will think of a large number of strategies that could be beneficial or not for that position and the thing about people like PJ, the wheels just never stop turning.
If you look at what he's posted for Kingmaker I and the postgame commentary, you would undoubtedly be impressed with the amount of thinking that he's put into that position, but that's just the tip of the iceberg, those are just the ideas that he felt were good enough to share with us or that he had time to write down and post, I have no doubt that he has a plethora of other strategies he's thought of in the scum position that he either rejected or forgot about or just didn't have the time to post. When scum try that in this game, PJ's the guy who's probably got the best chance of picking up on that. How would I know this? Because from my experience of playing with PJ, that's the type of guy I think he is.
To be completely honest... I probably agree. As much fun as it would be to try to "continue the streak," I'm not the best player around. In this game especially, I'm probably not the best scumhunter, and my early game play still needs some serious work.
PJ, on the other hand, never lets go. And he usually gets going right off the bat. I got a first-hand account of this in Newbie 254, where he drilled me pretty damned hard before coming to a decision, despite having proclaimed earlier (on a couple of occasions) how he thought there was virtually no way I could not be pro-town. Though I have my personal misgivings about PJ's playstyle (especially how they interact with my own playstyle), I fully recognize his ability to catch scum, and I support the Kingmaker's decision to make PJ the king for Day One.
Pooky wrote:I'm pretty sure Glork's got the same idea of how great a player PJ is, he's no fool and he's not a poor judge of character.
See above.
Pooky wrote:Now consider Glork's reaction to the fact that he was not picked as King, what does he do? He decides to browbeat the shit out of the KMer, basically taking the idea that he's a better choice than PJ trying to stuff it down the throat of "whichever poor noob didn't make him king".
A joke. A simple, silly comment that one or two people have chosen to interpret as a jealous, strongarmed, bullying attempt.
But I won't apologize for having made them, and I won't take back anything that I've said to date. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I have reasons for everything I do.
Pooky wrote:What the heck is the point of this? He KNOWS it's a vanilla only game, there's no doctor that can protect him from the baddies! Perhaps he wants to make it absolutely clear to those bad bad mafia that he's definitely the best choice for the nightkill cuz he's going to completely wipe the floor with them if he ever gets the crown?
The above was sarcasm btw.
Glork's trying to imprint the idea that he must be made King into the head of the Kingmaker and disguising that as trying to get a reaction out of PJ by placing him under emotional duress(this is not a good idea, we want to know how PJ would act normally, not how he'll act when he's bent out of shape)
This is a bold conclusion to draw, to say the very least. Yes, I'm trying to stir the pot. I'm not one to avoid conflict or to say/do something that will inspire reactions one way or another. PJ's a pretty damned tough kid, and I don't expect there to be any lasting emotional trauma from the comments I've made. I've pushed enough to get a reaction (both from him and from other players), but not enough to detract from his decision-making.
Allow me to reiterate one thing: My comments were not made out of jealousy or immaturity. They were made to apply a different kind of pressure to PJ specifically, to see how he reacts.* While I'd certainly
like
to be made king at some point or another, I am not so selfish or naive that I would insist upon being made King to suit any superficial or whimsical personal desires.
I hope that clears things up a little.