Mafia Behind the Maiden (Game over!)

[UberNinja]

Aw, you guys. So much love... *wipes a tear away*

In all seriousness, fuck you though

[UberNinja]

Not all of you, obviously. Just the good-looking ones.

[Hinduragi]

I'm at the point where I think UN is pretty likely to be scum, and honest to goodness feel that een of he is town, removing him from the game will benefit the rest of the town.

Kinda like when the town in Gay Mafia got rid of Umbrage.

This. Exactly this. That one piece of doubt that he isn't 100% scum is reassured by the fact that I'm making the game a better place.

If scum had the balls to fight me, there would be a 1v1 right now.

[UberNinja]

Why am I pretty likely to be scum?

Anyone.

[UberNinja]

also @mod:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p4164425

[Glork]

Why am I pretty likely to be scum?

Anyone.

I really don't. When I look at

(1)

his voting history,

(2)

his contributions (or general lack thereof),

(3)

his attitude towards voting & wagons & lynches,

(4)

his lack of understanding of what it means to have the protown win condition,

(5)

his "I haven't kept up on the game, treat me with kid gloves" attitude while trying to tell the town what they should and shouldn't do, none of it adds up to a protown UN.

(6)

There is so much charade, and so little genuine production, that I can NOT accept that he's just a terrible, useless, but ultimately protown player.

Ahem.

[GreyICE]

I'm at the point where I think UN is pretty likely to be scum, and honest to goodness feel that een of he is town, removing him from the game will benefit the rest of the town.

Kinda like when the town in Gay Mafia got rid of Umbrage.

I'm kinda here too. We're down 4 scum, and we have maybe 7 or so tops, and SpyreX is outed as some third-party-bullshit-needs-to-die-soon role.

I backed him in Team Mafia because he was definitely playing... not necessarily well, but not crappy, and he just reeked of towniness. I've fucking bitched about his play before this game, and if we can't do in DDD then Uber is alright.

But I still want that fucking turkey DDD fried.

[Tierce]

Grey, does your role PM

specifically

state that you're protown or aligned with the

Apostle's Army

?

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

Vote: UberNinja

I need to trawl through his ISO to give conclusive proof but I'm sure he's contradicted himself several times regarding his stance on the DDD wagon now.

Been reading along on my phone. I watched with ABSOLUTE HORROR as Tammy needlessly name claimed. I have a gut scumread but that could be out of pure disgust. Like, it looks more like scum in the ultimate AtE than town legitimately pissed, but it will work itself out in the wash. Shame that Hindu Lovered himself to her really. Oh yeah, and I don't like the way that Tammy has been reacting to Tierce, like, Tierce has had WAY MORE than just the point Tammy has fixated on and to treat it otherwise is suspect.
~AV

[UberNinja]

I really don't. When I look at

(1)

his voting history,

(2)

his contributions (or general lack thereof),

(3)

his attitude towards voting & wagons & lynches,

(4)

his lack of understanding of what it means to have the protown win condition,

(5)

his "I haven't kept up on the game, treat me with kid gloves" attitude while trying to tell the town what they should and shouldn't do, none of it adds up to a protown UN.

(6)

There is so much charade, and so little genuine production, that I can NOT accept that he's just a terrible, useless, but ultimately protown player.

1. What's wrong with my voting history? I vote who I think is scum.
2. I've contributed more than some others in the game, what's the problem? Don't like my style?
3. My attitude towards voting & wagons & lynches is wrong or scummy because why?
4. My lack of understanding of what it means to have the protown win condition? What?
5. Where did I ask to be treated with kid gloves because I wasn't caught up? Fuck that.
6. Charade, yes. Little production? Okay. Terrible, useless? Hardly. But, ultimately protown? You bet your fuckin' knickers.
Bonus: Have you

ever

correctly read me as scum, ever? (Hint: The answer is no)

Bonus bonus:
If you really thought I was scum, #4 should be enough for you to want to lynch me.

All of your other reasons are bullshit, and can be summed up as "waaah I don't like Uber. Lynch Uber".

[UberNinja]

Vote: UberNinja

I need to trawl through his ISO to give conclusive proof but I'm sure he's contradicted himself several times regarding his stance on the DDD wagon now.

Yeah, find where I contradict myself, that'd be grand. And then tell me when changing your mind became a scum tell.

My thoughts on the DDD wagon were/are:

1. OH COOL WE'RE WAGONING OBVSCUM WHO SOMEBODY HAS A COP RESULT ON OR WAS PROVED SCUM VIA OTHER NIGHT ACTION? SWEET
2. Wow, this wagon is going way too fast.
3. Fuck, his claim looks townie.
4. Unvote this shit wagon, Vote: the guy who started it because somebody made a post that looked awesome as to why Nik was scum

Now I'm confused because that same guy doesn't seem to be pushing Nik as scum and is just sitting around with his thumb up his ass.

So please tell me why that's scummy in any way shape or form to change your mind, and I will happily vote myself.

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

Vote: DDD

for the lulz I guess (mostly because Nik said so, Glork not so much), but I want to actually try to get into the game and be useful at some point, so if somebody would explain to me like I was a raw fuckin newbie, that'd be perfectamundo

Playing the ignorant sheep.

I, like SpyreX, see no smoking gun on DDD and nobody's pointed it out to me.

This has been pointed out already but here he complains that he hasn't seen any reason to be on the wagon he's CURRENTLY ON.

Hey Tierce that's a really cool vote, and I'mma let you finish, but DDD's one of the coolest wagons of ALL TIME.

I recognise the pop-culture reference may mask the seriousness of the point BUT NEVERTHELESS he calls it one of the coolest wagons of ALL TIME implying he at least sees a reason to be on it. This contradicts BOTH the previous points.

When did Spyrex stop being your Number 1 100% sheepable Town read?

Why not mention who are your actual scum suspects on your wagon? Just saying "everyone is suspect" when 3 Mafia and 1 likely SK are already dead looks like scum not wanting to lay down reads.

When he showed absolutely no interest in trying on D2; he was and is still town but it wasn't useful to follow him since he wasn't going anywhere.

Because I'm going to somehow get this wagon taken apart without having to claim and playing "these are my final reads" just gives some lazy asshole off my wagon permission to lynch me; permission denied.

Unvote: DDD

Unvotes DDD. Matches #2, not #3 though. At this point I

could

buy that he never really believed in DDD scum (#1 and #2 support this) but then why not unvote sooner? Why call it a cool wagon if he didn't believe it was on scum? Why explicitly unvote based on something DDD says (implying THIS POST BY DDD

CHANGED

his mind - presumably from SCUM to TOWN)? Okay fine. From "null" to town but then does that match #3? No. Because a wagon on a nullread can't be worth Tierce voting it as one of the coolest wagons of ALL TIME.

HERE'S THE KICKER THOUGH

idk anything about them right now so i couldn't in good conscience vote either

they don't seem as cut-and-dried as the ddd case did at the beginning of the day (also, you ain't no nikanor)

explain both cases pl0x and i'll give you some lovin'

OKAY

So here we have UN claiming that he doesn't know anything about kkb/dram and so couldn't wagon them.
BUT
Didn't he wagon DDD whilst explicitly not knowing anything about it? (quote 1)
In which case, HOW was the DDD case cut and dry and the beginning of the day?

And WHY does he need to wait on having the case explained BEFORE voting, when as you can see from Quote 2, he kept his vote on DDD

DESPITE

the case on him not being explained to his satisfaction?

RESULT
UN is scum, KKB is probBuddy.

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

PS you can vote yourself now.
~AV (and above)

[UberNinja]

oh shit, you mean I was voting DDD without having an independent reason to?

FUCK, I MUST BE SCUM

[Glork]

Bonus: Have you

ever

correctly read me as scum, ever? (Hint: The answer is no)

Sample Size One? Yeah. Don't even give me this kind of fucking bullshit.

Plus, your play here is vastly different than it was in TM:Closed Normal, as Grey has already pointed out.

It doesn't fit WM2 much either, where (although you were remarkably wrong about most things) you were a mover and a shaker.



And yeah, every time I think about the wincon thing, I have an urge to vote you. I'm FINALLY acting on that urge and not giving you a free pass for being a complete fucking moron.

[UberNinja]

The reason I called Tierce out for ignoring the DDD wagon is because she's obvscum and doesn't want to go for the easy wagon because that'd be 2 E Z and she's trying to avoid later VCA being done on her voting history, duh

[Teleporting Speed Hippos]

You explicitly said you needed DDDscum explaining to you.
Shame you didn't keep your end of the bargain on the self vote though.
~AV

[Glork]

The reason I called Tierce out for ignoring the DDD wagon is because she's obvscum and doesn't want to go for the easy wagon because that'd be 2 E Z and she's trying to avoid later VCA being done on her voting history, duh

Tierce "obvscum"?

How easily you forget the whole Oversoul fake vig thing.

Oh, wait, you didn't forget.

You're just a scumbag looking to stir up shit in another direction after I raised the remote possibility of Tierce being scum.

[UberNinja]

Bonus: Have you

ever

correctly read me as scum, ever? (Hint: The answer is no)

Sample Size One? Yeah. Don't even give me this kind of fucking bullshit.

Oh sorry, I must be mixing you up with Tierce, the

OTHER

over-inflated gasbag asshat who shits all over the thread with complete fucking stupidity and wouldn't admit they were wrong for a million dollars. She's read me wrong at least two or three times, probably more. And she acts like she still has a fucking clue, which she fucking obviously doesn't

And yeah, every time I think about the wincon thing, I have an urge to vote you. I'm FINALLY acting on that urge and not giving you a free pass for being a complete fucking moron.

Oh noes! I'm going to report you to the mod for calling me a fucking moron! No wait that's Tierce who can't stand being called a bitch even when she's being one with a capital B.

rofl

[UberNinja]

You're just a scumbag looking to stir up shit in another direction after I raised the remote possibility of Tierce being scum.

YOU raised?

LOLOLOLOOL

[Tierce]

Av, you magical pirate lemon you. <3

Post 3260 in no way matches with the train of thought supposedly displayed in his actual posts. Let me remind you:

Mini Vote Count (25):

Leonardo and Edward
Debonair Danny DiPietro (L-2) ~ Nikanor, Glork, Magister Ludi, MaguaofIllusion, UberNinja, Alchemist, GreyICE, danakillsu, singersigner, Katsuki

SpyreX (L-12) ~

Alchemist

Not Voting:

Alchemist,

Teleporting Speed Hippos, Debonair Danny DiPietro, kanyeknowsbest, Gammagooey,

Glork,

Benmage, Hinduragi,

Katsuki,

Lady Lambdadelta,

Magister Ludi, MaguaofIllusion, Nikanor,

Rhinox,

GreyICE, singersigner,

SpyreX, Tammy, Tierce, ToastyToast,

UberNinja, danakillsu

--With 22 alive, it takes 12 to lynch.

39

The only vote change is then my first post of the day, in which I vote UN. He reacts immediately.

Hey Tierce that's a really cool vote, and I'mma let you finish, but DDD's one of the coolest wagons of ALL TIME.

2. Wow, this wagon is going way too fast.

So... cheering on a wagon at L-2, continue to push it until he unvoted it in Post 2893, and now he claims he thought the wagon was going too fast?

This is scum. It needs rope.

PEdit: Oh look, a post to report.

[UberNinja]

I fucking apologized to you, Tierce! psh

@ anyone else who gives a shit: look how bad she wants me out of the game, rofl

If she thought I was scum she would just try to lynch me so she could dance on my corpse later
The fact that she's reporting me for something so trivial is pretty fucking telling if you ask me.

[UberNinja]

@ Glork, you magnificent bastard you:

Please explain how my behavior makes sense

in any fucking continuity

as scum and I will self-vote.

TSH had his chance at it, he failed miserably. I give you the same chance.

[Glork]

Also, re: kid gloves.

Ok, I will admit I haven't been paying a lot of attention to this game...

So for me Nikanor, your boyfriend for a day, will you please explain: why the DDD quickwagon?
Maybe I'm dense, maybe it's something totally fucking obvious, but I have no idea what this is.
I wanna try to get back into the game, and you helping me out will help me out a lot. Helpfully.

Thanks.

WHY was it obvious? I wasn't paying attention.

Vote: DDD

for the lulz I guess (mostly because Nik said so, Glork not so much), but I want to actually try to get into the game and be useful at some point, so if somebody would explain to me like I was a raw fuckin newbie, that'd be perfectamundo

Also I'm not in the mood to search through 175 spyrex posts for a claim. Throw me a bone here?

Yeah, fuck that. I'm not doing that much work. Help me be helpful or fuck you, Glork!

Nobody should have to fucking HELP you be helpful. You're not a raw fucking newbie. You have a brain that functions at least well enough to string together coherent sentences, you have two eyes, and a live internet connection.

You cannot act like it's everyone ELSE'S responsibility for YOUR lack of contributions. That's scummy as fuck. You're obviously aware that you're completely fucking useless, but you want to make it everyone else's issue.



And then

IMMEDIATELY AFTER THAT SHITSTORM OF GARBAGE POSTING ABOUT HOW YOU NEED HELP GETTING INTO THE GAME

, you post THIS:

Oman needs to die at some point.

The fuck? You want Oman, who was obviously the town counterwagon to the Nexus-scum-lynch dead still?

No. Absofuckinglutely not.

[UberNinja]

Why is Oman a

town

counter-wagon?
Is it not possible that there were two scum wagons?

You're full of shit.