In post 1819, Glork wrote:
Still not really understanding hte massive amount of Ludihate. Can someone please bullet-point the reasons he is scum?
AV's made quite a few posts about it.
Spoiler: Ludi scum
In post 1445, Teleporting Speed Hippos wrote:In post 1440, Magister Ludi wrote:On the off chance you are town, I know your slot could be a powerful force for the town.
Why do you think it's an off-chance? I've seen hardly anything in a ctrl+F of your ISO to suggest you really have a strong scum read on MoI. Your only real expression of their scumminess is that they voted for you, and your biased to think they must be scum. That doesn't seem like the sort of conviction to make someone say it's at best an "off-chance" that they're town. Especially combined with the claim you make in the very same post above that you're joining it mainly to stir discussion and get town out of the weird place they're in.
So a couple of catch-me-up buttercup questions.
What's this "bad mojo" that will happen if day goes on too long?
Can someone post a concise case against MoI? I asked Pere and he says he can't find one.
Why did the Toasty wagon crumble?
I'm going to put all of these concerns together in a simple action:
Unvote; Vote: MagisterLudi
I already think ML is scum from before my holiday when he used the word "odd" after calling someone out for using the word "odd". That's been solidified by his claim that Pere only put ML in the FoS list because he's been "pressuring us," when if anything he's only on us because I called him out earlier in the game. Then there's his latest post which YUCK.
Alchemist tells us that there is support for this lynch amongst enough players to make this a real possibility for the near future. That takes care of bad mojo.
The lack of a convincing case against MoI makes me wonder why the wagon is so large, and if a lot of those votes are apathetic/day-ending, they would do just as well on ML which is a far superior lynch given what Pere has said to me.
The ToastyWagon (which Pere is on) isn't likely to go anywhere any time soon, so I think our slot's vote can be better used.
[I just searched for a Hippopotamousse image to finish this post, but sadly, I can't find any. This short note to symbolise the hippo-shaped hole that has been left in my heart will have to suffice.]
~AV
In post 1448, Teleporting Speed Hippos wrote:In post 453, Magister Ludi wrote:Gamma's 447 is also a pretty good find. I don't think singersinger really knows what she is saying here. She puts down a vote on Tammy, and then a few hours (~15) later seemingly forgets where it is, calls tammy super town, and decides to call SpyreX, who was also on the Tammy wagon, scum, and Magua, scum, (who knows why) but doesn't shift her vote to either of them.
You don't see MoI scum.
In post 1116, Magister Ludi wrote:And MaguaoI is harder for me to give a solid because they voted me, I'm biased in thinking anyone voting me is scum pushing for a mislynch. Of any wagons with multiple votes, this is the one I would join.
The only reason it seems you find him scummy is because he voted you. As a result, you say yourself here that your read isn't solid.
In post 1167, Magister Ludi wrote:You talked about getting short and to the point in one of your posts, could you do that in explaining what about MoI-scum I, and a few others, are misinterpreting
You don't see MoI scum.
In post 1440, Magister Ludi wrote:Combined, it isn't easy to get big liquid wagons going. The MoI wagon has taken a long time coming, and it's only at L-3 or so, and it actually doesn't look like it's going to be a lynch. I'm not as sold on their scumminess as I am on others, but I was willing to vote the wagon on the basis of getting something going and getting some meaningful reactions, and lynching someone who isn't in my null section or above.
It's been a long time coming but this is the first real place you've stated a solid suspicion, and even then you're "not as sold" on it. Doesn't sound like there's only an "off chance" on him being scum, does it?
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In post 355, Teleporting Speed Hippos wrote:Pere's still not checked in...
In post 318, Magister Ludi wrote:Teleporting wrote:Okay UN, you had your chance to explain the vote on Tammy"Town"
Unvote; Vote: UberNinja
I'm holding off on other comments until I've spoken to Pere (#firsthydra)
~AV
Reading through, it first struck me as odd that TSH would withhold comments on most things abritrarily, and then post a sentence pointing out the fact that he is withholding comment.In post 117, Magister Ludi wrote:What['s] odd [about it], and [is it] bad? If so, why?
If you think it comes from scum, please say so. Using a word like odd feels.... weasely. It allows you to say something without really making a stance.
FoS: Magister Ludi
...Oops, did you not think I could actually back up what I had to say?
In post 1532, Teleporting Speed Hippos wrote:Responding to the most derp points you've made before I leave:
In post 1515, Magister Ludi wrote:4. I wanted you to quote what you're talking about here, but alas you didnt. I join wagons to lynch people I think are scum, primarily. All else is secondary. Never stated differently.
"I was willing to vote the wagon on the basis of getting something going and getting some meaningful reactions, and lynching someone who isn't in my null section or above. "
"Getting something going" was the first (primary) thing you mentioned.
Coming after "At this point in the game, we've entered a weird sort of zone that is making it hard to get things done.", yeah, you did say your vote was mainly to push us out of a rut.
In post 1515, Magister Ludi wrote:6. Biggest lie in the game. Your slot posted #257, and then I expressed suspicion of you in post 318, well before you CAN BACK IN and fos'sed me in 355. Please use facts.
Says the guy who thinks we only included him in the Suspect list because he's been "pressuring" us when it's clear that I FoS'd you way before any real pressure on your part - and fuck off, you can't say "odd" expresses suspicion when "It allows you to say something without really making a stance." This is EXACTLY the hypocrisy I was talking about earlier. So kindly eat hemp.
The rest if necessary I will speak about later.
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If this was a "nightly" scum kill I'd expect the day to change.
Spy's suggestion of a country claim is interesting. There should DEFINITELY not be a name claim - hasn't someone already suggested this?
~P