Mini 304: This is NOT Any Kind of Mafia (Mod Abandoned)
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ryanjunk Goon
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Adele Big Sister
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Oh, for...
Nothing worse than someone stomping their foot and having a hissy fit the minute there's a wagon on them. You know how it is - sometimes you're gonna be a hero, sometimes you're gonna be a villain, sometimes you're gonna be a victim. So far, all I know is you haven't been acting like the first guy.
I mean, complaining that people are insistent on lynching you would make sense if your votes plus your FOSes made a majority. They don't. And the folk on this wagon - myself included - don't show signs of obsessiveness or nuttiness about this. We wanna hear your side and all you're giving us is that you've nothing more to say. Okay, how about you talk a little bit about third parties - those who aren't on the wagon, say if they've done anything to up your suss or your trust in them. Claim. Back down and apologize. Just don't take your ball and go home, you know?
Gah. On the one hand, here I am trying to motivate you and whatnot, while on the other I want you to understand that this is not gonna stop me voting for you if you don't post some good stuff soon. It's blatant sympathy-mongering and it isnot gonna work.-
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Tamuz Mafia Scum
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EmpTyger It's a JOKE!
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I *really* hate when I get a strong feeling about a player Day 1, and then someone all acts up in an impossible to ignore manner. I have just stumbled through an amazingly bad week, and am in no state of mind to evaluate ryan vs. Drummer right now, soUnvote: Drummeruntil I better figure things out.-
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Bacde Jack of All Trades
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Bacde Jack of All Trades
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cropcircles Goon
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Drummer Goon
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Getting good vibes from players like VitaminR, Adele, Yosarian, Tamuz. Which probably means that at least one of them is scum...but at the moment, they aren't likely to get my vote.
So I decided to take a good look at those people who I'm more suspicious of. I randomly selected Micigante. Know what I found? NOT MUCH. He posted to confirm, then randomly vote. After that, he's put in two whole votes with content.
Vote:Micigante. Most likely just a temporary vote.-
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Drummer Goon
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Drummer Goon
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cropcircles Goon
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JechtMurray Goon
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I think you're asking to be voted.ryanjunk wrote:Well, I've stated everything I'm going to state as far as logic against me being weak. What I've done is probably bad playing, so if I get the lynch it's my own fault. I appreciate the pointers, and I'm going to go ahead andUnvoteand lay low a little to see what some other people think.
There are many, many reasons why we would not lynch you if proper reasoning was given. Why do you think that the town would mindlessly lynch someone? There is hardly ever a way to prove anything 100%, but if you're actually worth keeping around, you need to prove it.Yep. I don't see how anyone could explain it any other way. Barring a cop investigation of me (which is impossible as we didn't have a Night yet, nor would I want a cop to come out to protect me) or some kind of funky day power, there's no way I can "prove" my innocence. So, look closely at those who are pushing the wagon.
Vote:RyanJunk,HOS:Cropcircles.-
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Yosarian2 (shrug)
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cropcircles Goon
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EmpTyger It's a JOKE!
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Adele:
I really don’t like how you ignored people asking you about your reaction in [126]. Not sure what to think about your interaction with ryan.
micigante:
I kind of understand where rajrhcpfreak coming from with this. Let’s say there’s a behavior that is disliked for a metagame reason. If the behavior is voted whenever it is done, eventually the negative reinforcement will stop it. This is essentially the reasoning behind lynch-all-liars. However- this only works if everyone else consents. Let’s say A is doing the behavior, but B is encouraging it. B thus in this sense is encouraging antitown behavior. In some respects, this is more suspicious than A’s actual behavior, if A behaves thusly independent of alignment.micigante [120] wrote:
I really would like to see that defence...EmpTyger wrote:rajrhcpfreak:
You know, I actually understand your point. But as much as I’d agree with metagaming selfvoting, I’d much rather metagame poor sportsmanship. So, reading [94], I’m not really feeling like posting the defense I typed up for you. Maybe later.
Drummer:
In a previous game I ignored my initial feelings to go after lynchbait, to my detriment.Vote: Drummer. I don’t feel strongly enough about any other right now to be doubting myself again.
ryan:
Which is not to say I like your play, in particular this:ryanjunk [148] wrote:<snip>I'm going to go ahead and Unvote and lay low a little to see what some other people think.-
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Drummer Goon
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Heh, don't feel bad. I didn't remember either.cropcircles wrote:You were voting me?
Way to pay attention, CC.
No shock here. You've come across kinda strange in this game. I really haven't seen any logic to your arguments yet, but if that suspicion is based on your gut, I'll always encourage it.EmpTyger wrote:Drummer:
In a previous game I ignored my initial feelings to go after lynchbait, to my detriment. Vote: Drummer. I don’t feel strongly enough about any other right now to be doubting myself again.
If Micigante still isn't talking tomorrow, I'll just forget about him. Doesn't look like voting him is going to make any difference.-
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inHimshallibe SmartyPants
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Vote count coming after other updates.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Tamuz Mafia Scum
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ryanjunk Goon
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I think at this point it's gone way beyond overreaction, Tamuz. First you decided to go hard after raj because you thought he wasn't properly following his own logic. Now you've just completely stopped, and are full-on against me. It looks a lot like a string of overreaction to flimsy reasoning to me. It wasn't obvious (to me) why you went after raj for not voting cropcircles, but you were after him like a cop with a guilty result. And then it went away, and now you're after me like I kicked your dog, even though all I did was act a bit too cautiously in Day 1.
I think even if you're town, this aggressiveness can only play into the hands of scum. I think it more likely that you're just trying to look useful to the town. I initially thought that, of the members of my bandwagon, Yosarian seemed more likely scum for going under the radar. But I think it looks more like you're just too aggressive to really be pro-town, Tamuz.
In addition, I don't like how you set off on me and subsequently sat on the backburner and let other people keep up pressure on me. Since you voted, you've had a total of 6 one-liner posts, most of which are quotes with a "me too", or "confirm vote", or "hey mod, you should probably kill ryan because I don't like him."
So, people are accusing me of, at best, not being very useful to the town. What useful information have your 6 non-posts given us other than "I think ryan might be scum", which can be gleaned by the fact that you're voting for me?
Vote: Tamuz-
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Yosarian2 (shrug)
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inHimshallibe SmartyPants
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Read the rules... I do not require unvotes.Drummer wrote:
Maybe my sig needs a dramatic change. First, I need toUnvote:cropcircles.Then,Vote:Micigante.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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inHimshallibe SmartyPants
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Vote Count - Day 1
Bacde - 1 (JechtMurray)
Adele - 1 (Bacde)
rajrhcpfreak - 1 (micigante)
micigante - 1 (Drummer)
Tamuz - 1 (rajrhcpfreak, ryanjunk)
ryanjunk - 3 (Tamuz, Yosarian2, VitaminR)
VitaminR - 1 (cropcircles)
Drummer - 1 (EmpTyger)
Not voting, soon to be fooled - 1 (Adele)
12 alive, 7 to lynch
micigante has requested replacement, due to some time constraints. I will be installing a deadline a day after I have found a replacement.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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Tamuz Mafia Scum
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You're right Ryan, my aggressiveness can be used by scum trying to kill me, like you!
I've stated my case, since then I've quoted some stuff you said and that supported my oppinion of you as scum, I've also quoted Yossarian making a similar case.
I could do a PbP on you, and have all analysis in one point, but I'd rather not since I'd be repeating myself. Oh, and your considerations of me going all out for your lynches, pshhhhhhhhhhh that isn't all out. But I've looked at the options for today and I've decided you aren't too bad of a lynch, hence my vote is still on ya. So Ryanscum rather than calling something scummy and then doing it, do us a favour and vote yourself.Tamuz is the expression of the alienated, of the ambitious, of the dispossessed.-
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Drummer Goon
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ryanjunk Goon
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