Newbie 1156 - Over

zMuffinMan · Post Post #600 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:06 pm

@prime,

I had the same feelings about Kiwi's early posts in regards to theam. On top of that my point about only scratching the surface; what I mean by this is that I didn't get the impression that she was trying to find scum motivation. For example, her attack on Revenus was based on tunneling, throwing insults around, etc. It's not really analysing the motivation behind Revenus's posts and it's not really scum hunting.

@adc,

Initially, I thought you were most likely scum because I had strong feelings that Revenus v theamateur was town v town, and of the reactions to the argument, yours came across as the most opportunistic (in that you said you thought theamateur was scum but it's also possible that Revenus is scum, or something along those lines without going back and checking exactly what you said).

Some stuff you said later on changed my mind. I think it had something to do with the whole "fuck it I gotta know" vote and other things you said after that.

PrimeIntellect · Post Post #601 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:10 pm

That is a great way to word it.
"It's not really analysing the motivation behind Revenus's posts and it's not really scum hunting."

I was trying to find a way to say that, too, without just saying "It's a gut feeling."

That's exactly how it is.

Revenus · Post Post #602 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:11 pm

wait you said you quit yet you're still tunneling kiwi.

and you still haven't given a reason for rampage being town besides "he's town".

his replace is looking "ok" but him including you in town is stupid and makes me believe even more that you two are the likely scumteam.

PrimeIntellect · Post Post #603 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:19 pm

"It's 4 am here and I quit."

Hey, kids! It's time for another episode of... What's Revenus Thinking?
Here goes:
Revenus: "These two statements can't possibly be related."

Revenus · Post Post #604 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:26 pm

you're talking your way to an early grave, scum.

PrimeIntellect · Post Post #605 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:32 pm

Ok.

I just wish I'll be able to see your pitiful expression when you see my flip.

zMuffinMan · Post Post #606 (ISO) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:54 pm

The reason I included Prime in my list of town players is, quite simply, because I think he's town. It has to do with tone and his method of scum hunting. When I eventually get around to explaining my reads (some time later tonight, hopefully), I'll go into detail with what I mean by this.

zMuffinMan · Post Post #607 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:26 am

Had a birthday dinner to attend tonight and have an early start at a seminar tomorrow morning. Will have to give full explanations when I get back in the afternoon.

DonQuixote · Post Post #608 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:28 am

Currently reading thread, should be up to date sometime today.

Revenus · Post Post #609 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:31 am

In post 606, zMuffinMan wrote:The reason I included Prime in my list of town players is, quite simply, because I think he's town. It has to do with tone and his method of scum hunting. When I eventually get around to explaining my reads (some time later tonight, hopefully), I'll go into detail with what I mean by this.

his method of scumhunting?

"theamatuer is scum"

"i am vanilla"

"wow really believable claim ok ur not scum"

PrimeIntellect · Post Post #610 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:47 am

You're just jealous lol.

DonQuixote · Post Post #611 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:18 am

Not everyone scumhunts the same Rev. You post every thought as it comes to you; others play closer to the chest.

I'm now 100% Read.

I have plaid in a few games on a couple other sites, but prefer not to say anything else as I much dislike metagaming.

My list.

Town:
zMuff, PI, Rev, Adc, myself

Fence:
Shii, ggodie

Likley Scum
PK, numbQ

I'll

Vote PK

Due to posts #50, 167, 185 and 532

Revenus · Post Post #612 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:10 am

close to the chest? you serious?

ggoodie12 · Post Post #613 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:10 am

I'd like to know why the new IC thinks I'm scummy, but he said he'd give us explanations later so I guess I'll have to wait.

Revenus · Post Post #614 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:24 am

theamatuer's replacement not making me feel good about him

how do you explain his early game play? how do you explain any of rampage's play as being townish, and how do you explain prime's reaction to rampage as towny? (directed to don quixote)

DonQuixote · Post Post #615 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:34 am

His early game play? Noobish at best scummy at worst.

I read him as very town. Tad douchy and even aggressive but none of that makes him mafia, just not pleasant.

PI is very towny at the moment. He was on the theam (early me) wagon and had the chance to hammer for a long duration where no one would have thought him scummy for it.

As for his rampage reactions, not surprised someone would go along with a ruse a person they view as town proposes.

Adc75 · Post Post #616 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:05 pm

ISOs coming for every player between tonight and tomorrow night.

PrimeIntellect · Post Post #617 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:36 pm

I'm looking forward to it.

Enigma · Post Post #618 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:10 pm

Votecount 1.5

Princess Kiwi (3) - zMuffinMan, PrimeIntellect, DonQuixote

PrimeIntellect (1) - Revenus

Not Voting (5) - Shiidaji, Adc75, numberQ, Princess Kiwi, ggodie12

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch before the deadline

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Princess Kiwi is V/LA from 11th September to 13th September.

Shiidaji · Post Post #619 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:14 pm

Sorry for not posting for a while, life happens.

First of all, VOTE: zmuffinman, for now. I still haven't heard a good excuse as to why Rampage's play wasn't scummy. I admit he was just making a fool of himself, but I an't help but feel he was still acting as scum before he quit. Maybe you can clear it up for me, Mr. Muffin?

Also, I'm just curious as to why some of you, namely the two replacements, find me not as town as others. Is it because of my passive play-style? Probably is. Oh well.

How many Kiwi votes is that already?

Shiidaji · Post Post #620 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:14 pm

EBWOP: Thanks mod <3

zMuffinMan · Post Post #621 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:23 pm

I could perhaps clear it up if, say.... You wanted to help me out by, oh, I don't know... Giving some examples of what you mean?

Generalising and telling me that his play was scummy when it simply wasn't (yes, I've read over his play, and I actually agree with all of what he said - he wasn't the most helpful, but nothing he said was anti-town).

Give me a couple hours to get all my thoughts on this game out.

Revenus · Post Post #622 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:24 pm

Nothing he said was anti-town? Oh man.

Revenus · Post Post #623 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:25 pm

And Shii, its the same 3 people on Kiwi as before; the replaces coming in and acting the same as their predecessors make me feel uneasy about them

Revenus · Post Post #624 (ISO) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:32 pm

Here's a summary of abr's posts. Oh hey theamatuer is the lynch today there can be no more discussion. (then 15 posts insulting me and also asking why we aren't hammering theamatuer).
Then he votes kiwi. Then AFTER he votes kiwi he says "i've been thinking about it all night and shes scum" like the next day (so he could justify his random vote on her after seeing theamatuer train fall apart). Then when he sees theamatuer jumping on the kiwi train, he goes "oh hey theamatuer, we're buddies now" even though just a few posts before he is wondering why that lynch was derailed. And then when he gets attacked for this he says (we must have discussion, no one hammer).

Are you telling me none of this is at all scummy?