Brightest Day Mafia, Part 1 - GAME OVER


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Post Post #1550 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:45 am

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Andrius wrote:I think dana said Unrecruitable = Uncultable somewhere earlier in D2.


I don't see this O_o
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Post Post #1551 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:41 am

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BB: You played for 8+ days of posting without reading through the game, and the whole time you ignored or flamed people that called out out for fence sitting and being non-committal. You only started posting content after multiple players stated that it is a cult characteristic to start posting more and being active.

You tried to setup multiple haphazard cult accusations, including against claimed WL's that are known to be non CR, and at most one of whom might be a recruit (who wouldn't be worth targeting). So yes, I think you are very likely to be cult. You've done nothing to change that.

BTW, the uncultable versus unrecruitable thing happened day 2, after you joined and started posting, so claiming you were unaware of it until now is really stretching plausibility.

Oversoul wrote:Kast, I pmed the mod about the difference between Uncultable and Unrecruitable and they said the difference was the wording.

They wouldn't elaborate on that so I am going to say that the words are interchanageable.
Andy: Dana didn't publishly state that. Oversoul said he PMed the mod and was confirmed they are essentially the same thing.
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Post Post #1552 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:52 am

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You only started posting content after multiple players stated that it is a cult characteristic to start posting more and being active.
Grammar fail me now!

You only started posting content after multiple players stated that it is a cult characteristic to sit back and actively lurk/keep their head down. Obviously, after your behavior was called out sufficiently, you decided to start posting more and being more active so as not to give off those cult scumtells.
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Post Post #1553 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:54 am

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Kast wrote:BB: You played for 8+ days of posting without reading through the game, and the whole time you ignored or flamed people that called out out for fence sitting and being non-committal. You only started posting content after multiple players stated that it is a cult characteristic to start posting more and being active.

You tried to setup multiple haphazard cult accusations, including against claimed WL's that are known to be non CR, and at most one of whom might be a recruit (who wouldn't be worth targeting). So yes, I think you are very likely to be cult. You've done nothing to change that.

BTW, the uncultable versus unrecruitable thing happened day 2, after you joined and started posting, so claiming you were unaware of it until now is really stretching plausibility.

Oversoul wrote:Kast, I pmed the mod about the difference between Uncultable and Unrecruitable and they said the difference was the wording.

They wouldn't elaborate on that so I am going to say that the words are interchanageable.
Andy: Dana didn't publishly state that. Oversoul said he PMed the mod and was confirmed they are essentially the same thing.


A) I still haven't read through the entire game. I'm lazy. That's how I am. It doesn't indicate me as scum. Hell, in Dexter when I replaced in (tans can confirm) I only read halfway through the game and then I just jumped in and I never finished reading the other half nor felt it necessary at the time.

B) I didn't ignore claiming I'm a "fence-sitter"... I bluntly addressed it twice. I'm not fence-sitting by claiming I DONT WANT TO LYNCH EITHER OF THEM. Claiming I don't want to lynch either of them clearly indicates I don't think either of them are scum.

C) When did I claim I was unaware of anything? I am the one that called out the uncultable vs. unrecruitable thing in the beginning. I had just put the pieces together that a Mason Recruiter would indicate that there can not be a masonary of 3+ players.

D) The last statement about the "wording" indicates to ME that they are NOT the same thing, they are in fact different things.

E) Why don't you read my Meta. When I am MAFIA, or MAFIA-ALIGNED I usually focus on one person to try to get them lynched. When I'm town I typically change my mind quite frequently and base my ideas off of how people react. Why don't you do something SMART for once and do a little research about who you claim to think is mafia. There are two ways to play the game: be narrow-minded and accuse me because in your mind it seems like I'm just throwing out random accusations, or the open-minded view that realizes everyone plays differently than one another and people don't fit into boxes such as "Mafia do this, Town do this"... it's more "This player does this as mafia, this player does this as town."

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Also, like I said earlier, in what universe
If I am mafia, or cult, or anything anti-town does it make sense for me to be making these accusations?
If I was anything anti-town I would just let the Ghost lynch go through and sit back under the radar and wait for another day.

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Also feel free to point out where 'multiple people' accused me of lurking and being cult-ish.
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Post Post #1554 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:33 am

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Post Post #1555 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:46 am

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Kast wrote:
Oversoul wrote:Kast, I pmed the mod about the difference between Uncultable and Unrecruitable and they said the difference was the wording.

They wouldn't elaborate on that so I am going to say that the words are interchanageable.
Andy: Dana didn't publishly state that. Oversoul said he PMed the mod and was confirmed they are essentially the same thing.

My bad.
This, BB.
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Post Post #1556 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:47 am

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zMuffinMan wrote:prod dodge

Keep up the good work, White Lanterns. :igmeou:
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Post Post #1557 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:49 am

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"Different in the wording" implies to me:

Uncultable means you can't be culted.
Unrecruitable means you can't be recruited.

Thus, it wold imply they aren't the same thing...

Except...

The mafia is Uncultable, does that mean he is recruitable? X_x Why would a MAFIA be UNCULTABLE, wouldn't ALL mafia be uncultable? >_< A mafia being able to belong to the cult is not possible cuz then the cult could just out all the mafia, etc.
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Post Post #1558 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:51 am

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What exactly does a janitor do? Is it possible the first flip was a mafia-written flip (I forget what the role is called when mafia can change the flip of a person or if it's even used on mafiascum)? I.e., maybe mafia effed with us by making that his flip...

Uncultable mafia makes absolutely no sense to me...
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Post Post #1559 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:53 am

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BB if you're concerned then YOU pm dana and ask for an interpretation.

Janitor conceals a flip.
So a player would flip Andrius, ???

Uncultable mafia means MAFIA CAN GET CULTED.
HOW HARD IS THAT BB
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Post Post #1560 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:56 am

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You've... got your eye on me, Andrius?

Well, shit. I better be careful. The guy who thinks GW is mafia, not CR, and is telling us we should go after the CR, while keeping his vote on GW, has his eye on me.

I have no idea why I have a town read on you.
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Post Post #1561 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:57 am

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Mafia getting culted makes NO sense. Cuz then it'd in the culted mafia's best interest to just REVEAL all their old mafia members X_X.

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They already said they wouldn't elaborate on it. The difference in the wording means: UNCULTABLE MEANS CAN'T BE CULTED, UNRECRUITABLE MEANS CAN'T BE RECRUITED BY ANY FACTION. It means they are two DIFFERENY things and that there is a mason recruiter. If they were the same thing they'd be the same word. and the mod wouldn't say "the difference is in the wording"...
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Post Post #1562 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:59 am

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zMuffinMan wrote:You've... got your eye on me, Andrius?

Well, shit. I better be careful. The guy who thinks GW is mafia, not CR, and is telling us we should go after the CR, while keeping his vote on GW, has his eye on me.

I have no idea why I have a town read on you.

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because it wasn't.
It was just a face of disapproval over prod-dodging.

predit: BLACKBERRY IT HAPPENED LAST GAME. MAFIA AND MASONS WERE CULT-ABLE BY THE CULT. WELCOME TO BLACKEST NIGHT PART TWO. EXCEPT THIS TIME WE HAVE THE BRAINS TO BREAK THE GAME.
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Post Post #1563 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:00 pm

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Ok, let's just say you're right, BB.
Let's say there's a mason recruiter (lol_BROKEN).
Or let's say there's a mason recruiter who only recruits non-cult. Let's call it the JUSTICE LEAGUE/WHITE LANTERNS/WHATEVER.
Let's say there's a difference.

Is the black lantern cult FUCKED or what?
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Post Post #1564 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:11 pm

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There was a MASON RECRUITER in the LAST game Andrius... -_-

What happens when Cult cults a Mafia? That's fricken dumb as hell and way too cult-sided, no?
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Post Post #1565 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:31 pm

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Blackberry wrote:There was a MASON RECRUITER in the LAST game Andrius... -_-

What happens when Cult cults a Mafia? That's fricken dumb as hell and way too cult-sided, no?

I KNOW THERE WAS ONE I PLAYED IN IT.

WE DONT KNOW THATS THE POINT.

Well as we learned in the last game flavor trumps breakability so of course the cult could recruit scum and masons it happens in the flavor.
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Post Post #1566 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:30 pm

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If the cult can recruit mafia...

Then if the cults are still alive after a short while, I'm all down for being recruited. =D But not tonight and probably not the next night. After that if you're winning, recruit the snot out of me or I'll hack into your mafia acct. and delete it.

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Post Post #1567 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:45 pm

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Blackberry wrote:If the cult can recruit mafia...

Then if the cults are still alive after a short while, I'm all down for being recruited. =D But not tonight and probably not the next night. After that if you're winning, recruit the snot out of me or I'll hack into your mafia acct. and delete it.

xoxo

After Succession Mafia I, I will kill any townie who has this mindset in two days (assuming CR isn't dead by then).
Because Gurgi, singer, and Poro all lurked in endgame and they were the votes I NEEDED to push a Flameaxe lynch, together with xvart.
But they lurked.
And lurked.
And enabled the scumlynch.
So what happened?
They won.
As Cult.
Getting recruited in endgame for playing like shit.

I am still bitter about that- we were THIS CLOSE to having the win.
But the townies still left weren't there.
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Post Post #1568 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:54 pm

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Andrius wrote:
Blackberry wrote:If the cult can recruit mafia...

Then if the cults are still alive after a short while, I'm all down for being recruited. =D But not tonight and probably not the next night. After that if you're winning, recruit the snot out of me or I'll hack into your mafia acct. and delete it.

xoxo

After Succession Mafia I, I will kill any townie who has this mindset in two days (assuming CR isn't dead by then).
Because Gurgi, singer, and Poro all lurked in endgame and they were the votes I NEEDED to push a Flameaxe lynch, together with xvart.
But they lurked.
And lurked.
And enabled the scumlynch.
So what happened?
They won.
As Cult.
Getting recruited in endgame for playing like shit.

I am still bitter about that- we were THIS CLOSE to having the win.
But the townies still left weren't there.


Don't get me wrong, I will play and scumhunt until I'm recruited if I am. But my warning is if Cult are about to win and they don't recruit me I will f#cking hack into their computer and destroy their lives. :twisted:

Also, don't recruit me tonight either or I will do the same.

My boyfriend happens to be a computer hacker.


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Post Post #1569 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:24 pm

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andrius wrote:= LOLOP.


You called?

judging by apokilyptica not flipping UNRECRUITABLE, I think that means unless you have UNRECRUITABLE, you will be recruited :\
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Post Post #1570 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:38 pm

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tanstalas' vote in #1449 doesn't count because he didn't unvote.


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Post Post #1571 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:18 pm

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Isn't Kast voting me, mod?

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Post Post #1572 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:31 pm

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Perhaps the mafia has a recruiting ability. That would explain Unrecruitable mastin-town versus Uncultable Toog-mafia.
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I didn't know you and shotty were a thing.
I am in the bottom 10% of scumhunters onsite!
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Post Post #1573 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:36 pm

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Nikanor wrote:Perhaps the mafia has a recruiting ability. That would explain Unrecruitable mastin-town versus Uncultable Toog-mafia.
berry wrote:My boyfriend happens to be a computer hacker.

I didn't know you and shotty were a thing.

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Post Post #1574 (ISO) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:32 pm

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Nikanor wrote:Perhaps the mafia has a recruiting ability. That would explain Unrecruitable mastin-town versus Uncultable Toog-mafia.
berry wrote:My boyfriend happens to be a computer hacker.

I didn't know you and shotty were a thing.


I came to the same conclusion earlier after I thought about it more, however, I thought it was best not to voice it just yet X_X.

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