Open 316 - Hard Boiled (Day Two)

[Amrun]

Oh thank goodness.

Pacman, I really hope you're either following along or a fast reader.

[Oversoul]

On Oversoul v. neil. I've been suspicious of neil from the beginning, and I don't think they're both on the same side. My gut doesn't like Oversoul, but I think that's just his smugness.

Why does no one like me... Makes me feel like I have been ass to you guys, in which case, I am sorry.

[Amrun]

I like you!

[Quilford]

Looks like he's showing a lot of work only to jump on the LittleGrey wagon.

Do you think the reasoning behind me jumping on the LittleGrey wagon is invalid? If not, what was the point of this statement?

I'm not sure I like Quilford's wall. I don't think his approach is effective, I'm not sure if looking at a person's iso granularly instead of holistically is useful. It appears that he's just rating posts on a scale of 1 to 5 and summing them up to produce a scum score or something. Looks fluffy

1) when did I even /mention/ ISOs?
2) how does it appear that I am rating posts and 'summing them up'?
3) have you read it? if so, how does it 'look fluffy'

#173: DarkFlashlight beats the dead horse's zombie (scumtell)

People are still baw'ing about this?

Excuse me? It's called a catchup post, and I was expressing my opinion. What's with that reaction? <-- not a rhetorical question

The way he gauges the scumminess of each individual post.

what
what
what
When is a gauge even mentioned? The comment in parentheses next to each opinion marks scummy or town-y posts

It could just be that he's learning and maturing through the game of Mafia, and is figuring out new tactics and ways to play that would make his effort more effective while playing. I don't think it'd be fair to attribute a new playing style that someone brings to the game, due to scumminess (or lack of).

this so comes from scum

Quilford didn't make any scum-hunting points, or any points at all actually. He simply posted his reactions and responses. There were no cases made, no points delivered, and no facts stated.

lolwut
explain please
I'm pretty sure that post contained cases and points as to why certain people were scummy and certain people were town; it just wasn't done in the typical manner of "write a massive paragraph about each individual player"

I was reflecting YOUR "floating statement."

You were anxious for what everyone thought about your wallpost, which was just your reactions to things, not a case on anyone. It is an action more likely to come from scum concerned with how townie they appear.

I don't think I've ever played a game as scum with you.

And what conclusions do you think I am leaping to?

holy shit, seriously?
You are leaping to the conclusion that me asking what people think of the post means I am concerned as to how I look.
I am asking what people thought of the post because I want to know whether the points I made are invalid or valid.


Amrun and zMuffin, I asked you both questions in my catch up post. Answer them.

[Quilford]

I'm concerned about the people on the LittleGrey wagon.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: neil1113

[glowball]

I like you!

ew.

[neil1113]

I'm concerned about the people on the LittleGrey wagon.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: neil1113

Since when was defending someone scummy? And I'm not on the Grey wagon?

[andrew94]

alright now we can wait for pacman and start

[Quilford]

I'm concerned about the people on the LittleGrey wagon.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: neil1113

Since when was defending someone scummy? And I'm not on the Grey wagon?

You didn't "defend", you turned into a friggin' CareBear and protected me with your own life.

You're not on the LittleGrey wagon, yes, but Amrun and Swank are and I want to hear their responses to my previous post before I feel comfortable voting Grey again.

[zMuffinMan]

prod dodging because I'm cool.

[Amrun]

Quilford, I believe I already answered everything. Please re-quote the questions you want answers.

As for the "leap," that is an opinion you will never agree with. Even when scum do it, it's more of a subconscious thing. I didn't expect you to go LOLYUP.

[MrBump]

It disappoints me that my first flavour is a replacement one. Oh well, I'll put part of the lynch story into this one.

The discussions came to a close fairly quickly. I say "discussions", but it progressed to an argument within seconds. Traitors always had that effect on people... it's funny, how humans will so willingly let each other die if it benefits themselves. These people were talking about lynching - LYNCHING - people who had been their friends for many years. The way the human mind works is truly amazing, an impossibly complex machine. The hilarity of it being the most complex, ingenious machine in the entire universe is given to every single idiot that ever lives, thinking they control it. They couldn't be more wrong; it controls them.

jakesh was the first to be driven insane, as such. He had some degree of control over his own mind. He sat in a corner, unable to move, unable to talk. That ruined everything. The others grew impatient, and cried out for him to talk, show some signs of humanity.

Suddenly, everything went dark. There was a shout out and then a small, pathetic yelp. People looked around trying to find out what happened. When faced with the unknown, all prior knowledge practically disappears.

The lights suddenly came back on and a man stood in the middle of the rectangular room. Everyone stared at him. No one had even noticed jakesh was gone. The man opened his mouth to speak, and simply said three words.

"I am Pacman."

evilpacman18 replaces jakesh97! Say hello! And as for the story, idk, I wanted to do a silly one but it didn't quite work that way xD

[DarkFlashlight]

Excuse me? It's called a catchup post, and I was expressing my opinion. What's with that reaction? <-- not a rhetorical question

Look at this:

#173: DarkFlashlight beats the dead horse's zombie (scumtell)

#192: DarkFlashlight makes the case that Glowball hasn't been reading the thread, but misses all the posts that indicate neil also hasn't being doing so... (scumtell)

Beating the dead horses's zombie was over trying to make Glowball read the plan. In order to show that it was in fact necessary, I had to point out that Glowball HADN'T read the thread, and thus hadn't read the plan. That nullifies the scumread on #173, since it was repetitive, but #174 was when she said she had read and

from then on

it would've been unnecessary. I pointed that out in #192, because for some reason Glowball thought I was scum for not being able to predict that she would have read the thread by her next post. Saying Glowball hadn't read the thread had nothing to do with that post (#192). It meant that she had no point with her post of:

Hey DarkScum... keep up and stop quoting things that are no longer relevant. Yes, I went through saying I wouldn't re read but I have conceded defeat if this is how you've all decided to go... and I've read what everyone has written since I came back from V/LA.
...As far as you painting me to be scummy...I'm apprehensive there is a difference, but wouldn't you love it if people thought I was scum.

I'm gonna rant for even longer, because I found something else.

#192 wasn't even saying that Glowball hadn't read the thread, that's a flatout lie. It was saying I had no way of knowing she had read it before post #174. You mention that I didn't say anything about Neil not reading the thread. First of all, why I would I have, Neil clearly understood the plan and read it, that was the whole reason I ever got into that scuffle with Glowball. Second, even if it would've been relevant to mention in that post, which it wasn't, Neil's only post concerning not reading the thread was #203. 203 comes after 192. How the hell would I have said that he hadn't read before he said he hadn't read? I don't even understand how you did that. Surely you didn't read the thread backwards, so you would've had to have intentionally done it. I want an explanation to that.

I'm concerned about the people on the LittleGrey wagon.

Goddammit, you were the last person on the LittleGrey wagon, and fully supported it.

VOTE: Quilford

Also, Marill, I haven't been in the last three votecounts.

[zMuffinMan]

It saddens me that people are just ignoring me when I'm going out of my way to look scummy. Nobody thinks I'm worth voting?

Even a simple sympathy vote will brighten my day.

[Amrun]

Stop claiming jester.

[zMuffinMan]

So, er, why are we waiting on pacman? Does he need to do something or can I claim vig now?

[Oversoul]

So, er, why are we waiting on pacman? Does he need to do something or can I claim vig now?

What the fuck is your problem?

[neil1113]

Muffin, what's going on dude?

[neil1113]

I'm concerned about the people on the LittleGrey wagon.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: neil1113

Since when was defending someone scummy? And I'm not on the Grey wagon?

You didn't "defend", you turned into a friggin' CareBear and protected me with your own life.

You're not on the LittleGrey wagon, yes, but Amrun and Swank are and I want to hear their responses to my previous post before I feel comfortable voting Grey again.

You've got to be kidding me? I turned into a CareBear and protected you, thus it's scummy?

And how does my vote have anything to do with the Grey situation, and who is or is not on the wagon???

Quilford, you're not looking good for yourself.

[MrBump]

Also, Marill, I haven't been in the last three votecounts.

That is quite embarrassing... sorry, Darkie D=

Vote Count 1.08

andrew94 - 2

(zMuffinMan)

Quilford - 2

(jakesh97, DarkFlashlight)

Glowball - 1

(andrew94)

LittleGrey - 2

(Amrun, swankedelic)

jakesh97 - 2

(LittleGrey, glowball)

neil1333 - 1

(Quilford)

Not Voting:

neil1113, Hoopla, Oversoul

With twelve alive, it takes

seven

to lynch! The deadline is on the 8th of July at 9:42 GMT!

[Amrun]

PACMAN, we need you!

Muffin, quit now.remember what I told ck last game about that shit?

[glowball]

5 bucks says that scum is not voting....any takers????

oh BTW

UNVOTE

[evilpacman18]

Hi. I'll start reading pretty soon. Playerlist looks pretty good. No, Amrun, I haven't been following along but reading won't take me long at all.

[Amrun]

Pacman, speed read! A lot depends on you.

[evilpacman18]

Oh? I'm interested. Inform me? Depending on how urgent it is I COULD start my read sooner rather than later but I kinda wanna play Halo first.