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4 votes will lynch!
I completely agree with this, just because he said this doesn't mean Peacebringer is scum.Doesn't mean he's not.Fuldu wrote:Well, given the fact that there was no reason in the world for him claim and the context of his statement, I assumed he simply meant to say that he'sEmpTyger wrote:Uh... can anyone think of a good reason for PB *not* to be vigged tonight? Because nothing's coming to my mind.backand wasn't paying close attention. I didn't really want to post it, because now all he has to say is "Yeah, that's what I meant," even if it wasn't. But if we're in twilight and discussing vig kills, I figure I should get it out there as a reasonable explanation for his admittedly odd statement.
I'm inclined to vote Peacebringer today for 2 reasons.Fritzler wrote:I completely agree with this, just because he said this doesn't mean Peacebringer is scum.Doesn't mean he's not.
Vote: OtakuII
Oh, those are better than my random reasons for voting for Otaku.BabyJesus wrote:I'm inclined to vote Peacebringer today for 2 reasons.Fritzler wrote:I completely agree with this, just because he said this doesn't mean Peacebringer is scum.Doesn't mean he's not.
Vote: OtakuII
1) His lowflying yesterday is unlike him. Trying to avoid notice?
2) He was roleblocked Night 3. No poisoner struck Night 3. He was most likely NOT roleblocked Night 4. Poisoner struck Night 4,and killed the roleblocker.
Also, not sure if there is any benefit in having everyone claim a name at this point or not, but it IS something to think about.
vote peacebringer
3 cops? seems a bit much, without one being naive. I still like my vote on PB, until I hear a good reason no one was poisoned when he was blockedOtaku376 wrote:I have reason to believe peacebringer is innocent from my n3 investigation, as in I am a triggered cop and know I am at least not insane (last night I got tss as innocent and according to the front page badger is listed as protown).
I know PB has suggested in another thread that he's sick of the slow pace of games here and won't likely be signing up for any more on this board, which might explain the lowflying. Not much of an excuse, but one people should at least be aware of.BabyJesus wrote:1) His lowflying yesterday is unlike him. Trying to avoid notice?
2) He was roleblocked Night 3. No poisoner struck Night 3. He was most likely NOT roleblocked Night 4. Poisoner struck Night 4,and killed the roleblocker.
becuase I don't know who was blocked those previous nights, unless it was said and I skimmed it. Plus whoever the poisoner was could have hit a doc protection, or an unkillable role.Fuldu wrote:I know PB has suggested in another thread that he's sick of the slow pace of games here and won't likely be signing up for any more on this board, which might explain the lowflying. Not much of an excuse, but one people should at least be aware of.BabyJesus wrote:1) His lowflying yesterday is unlike him. Trying to avoid notice?
2) He was roleblocked Night 3. No poisoner struck Night 3. He was most likely NOT roleblocked Night 4. Poisoner struck Night 4,and killed the roleblocker.
As for your second point, it's an unclear enough argument that it's starting to drift into the gray area between argument and crap logic, so I'm going to give you a chance to clarify before I come down on you. The poisoner didn't strike Nights 1 or 2, either. What about the situation makes you inclined to believe that the lack of a poisoning on Night 3 is more noteworthy than on the preceding two nights?
Read the death blurb on tss, BJ. Badger appears to have been an investigator of some sort, as well.BabyJesus wrote:3 cops? seems a bit much, without one being naive. I still like my vote on PB, until I hear a good reason no one was poisoned when he was blocked
I personally don't give 2 shit if PB is or is not going to defend himself. You think I'm voting him because he's not around? Hardly. While you say there are "pretty bad odds" that the poisoner missed 3 nights in a row, the FACT remains that the poisoner DID NOT KILL 3 nights in a row. If Peacebringer is the poisoner, that only requires 2 nights to be accounted for. Anyone else, and we are forced to account for THREE nights.Fuldu wrote:Read the death blurb on tss, BJ. Badger appears to have been an investigator of some sort, as well.BabyJesus wrote:3 cops? seems a bit much, without one being naive. I still like my vote on PB, until I hear a good reason no one was poisoned when he was blocked
As for the PB block, I think you're giving too much credence to the notion that the poisoner might have missed the kill for other reasons the other two nights. The odds of missing three nights in a row are pretty bad, and suggesting that the roleblock of PB last night is the best evidence you have to point to scum seems shady for this late in the game. My best explanation is that the poisoner can only kill even nights and missed Night Two for one of the various possible reasons.
Plus, as I go back and check, I see thatthis threadis the one in which PB mentioned that he wasn't devoting much to time to this forum any more. The combination of a poorly reasoned argument in what, with two or three scum groups remaining, has to be an endgame scenario with a bandwagon against someone who almost certainly isn't going to put much effort into defending himself makes this seem like an attempt by scum to slip something in quickly.
vote: BabyJesus
And my explanation accounts for two nights and only requires us to account for one. But that one isn't the night that PB was blocked. And I'm not saying that you're arguing that he's scum because he's not around. I'm suggesting that his not being around makes him an easy target for scum. This reflects on Fritzler and Ranger as well as you, but you presented the bad argument, whereas they just jumped on the bandwagon.BabyJesus wrote:I personally don't give 2 shit if PB is or is not going to defend himself. You think I'm voting him because he's not around? Hardly. While you say there are "pretty bad odds" that the poisoner missed 3 nights in a row, the FACT remains that the poisoner DID NOT KILL 3 nights in a row. If Peacebringer is the poisoner, that only requires 2 nights to be accounted for. Anyone else, and we are forced to account for THREE nights.
Well, let's take a look at that for a second:BabyJesus wrote:Maybe you don't find PB suspicious. I do. And I've played a lot more games with him then you have. Not to mention, he is one of the "unconfirmed" bunch. I want to hear a roleclaim from him at the very least.
I would simply point out that, due to the way EmpTyger laid out the post, it hides the fact that both BJ and Ranger are unconfirmed, as well.EmpTyger wrote:Fuldu is innocent.
So:
Iammars vouched for DP.
Tyger vouched for Otaku376 and Fuldu.
I don’t think Ranger is guilty, because of his quick unvote in [361]- I can’t think of any scenario where he’d be guilty and it wouldn’t be better for him to at least stall.
I feel there are a couple reasons to think BabyJ isn’t antitown.
Neither armlx nor Tyger have been counterclaimed.
That leaves Fritzler, Peacebringer, Thok, tss, and Yosarian.
PeaceBringer wrote:oops, my brain is misfiring on so many levels.
My role name is Jayne Cobb, my role is vig. Some reason I initially had in my brain that Book would be vig.
Jared Cooper is what my brain did with the name after having several days pass since I last looked at it.
BJ- seriously, you should know me better then that and you have no become a top suspect.
Only like half of my posts have a vote in them.RangeroftheNorth wrote:Of the unconfirmed people, Fritler has contributed almost nothing other than votes. As blind voting is worse at this stage than any other, and unless he posts thoughts and ideas we are not going to be able to get a read on him, I willVote: Fritzler