Mafia 125: Khan's Game of Mafia (Game Over)
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I mean if it comes down to him or me yea I'll throw that hammer with the quickness but what's the inhim gate that a.) doesn't involve being drunk on xtoxm's night action or b.) doesn't apply FAR more to someone else?-
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-The way he followed Nocases post restriction thing
-his under-the-radar, but not quite lurking kind of play
-his reaction to Xtoxm's claim (OMG HES LYING LYCHLYNCHLYNCH)
-the fact that I still think Xtoxm targeted him (if not him, then you)KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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Actually, DGB did that point thing.Kmd4390 wrote:Oh, and if someone did a real VCA TM, it would look bad on Inhim.
DrippingGoofball wrote:Cyber 25 + 50 + 15 + 25 + 25 + 5 = 145
PF 25 + 50 + 25 = 100
InHim 25 + 15 + 25 + 25 = 90
yabba 25 + 15 + 25 = 65
Anti 25 + 15 + 25 = 65
username 15 + 25 + 25 = 65
Spy 15 + 25 + 25 = 65
Dutch one 25 + 25 + 5 = 55
RC 25 + 25 = 50
KMD 25
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See that nocase thing is the piece that stands out the most for me about inhim, and it seems like town-jokin versus scum machinations. Yea, its a gut deal but.
#2 is a plague here and I give you that.
#3 I don't remember? Was that after anti called him out?
#4 FFFFFFF
Although the simple fact there hasn't been VCA TM from the machine does say something. Maybe I can do it this weekend (sun, probably).
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#3 was after Xtoxm sounded like he was claiming cop, then while we were waiting for clarification, then after he clarified.
Looking through Inhim's ISO, I remembered his reaction to my vote (oh, vote, cool) on him and his "people I'd lynch" that was half the game.KMD is the coolest dude who ever lost a bet to me - vonflare-
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See I understand #3 then what with that being similar to what I was going through then in my head.
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I want to say yes but I wouldn't be bale to say where without looking into it, so I guess no... Not in any substantial way.Iam wrote:Korlash, have you even mentioned inHim once in this entire game?
Was Zeenon under the rest of the town's scrutiny at the time, or did he just do it willy nilly? I'd love to read the game myself, but I can't even manage to find the time to read this one. I figure since you were there asking would be quicker and far more revealing.poker wrote:Why: I was masoned with him once in a game. He believed Zeenon to be town and claimed mason with Zeenon when xtoxm was only mason with me. yay that was rough for me. I probably deserved it though for something I did to xtoxm once so I hold no hard feelings toward him for anything and think he is a player that has certainly grown in skill over time.
You seem far too sure about this... You've put a lot of thought into discounting the Inhim thing by saying it was made before deadline, and yet don't seem to factor in the town list being made before the claim. given how the list does seem to simply be there to breadcrumb his night one target, it would only make sense for him to reiterate his target again once he claimed. while I still disagree with using it as evidence, both the inhim and the Spy theories make sense.Poker wrote:It is far more believable that he went the simplier route and either went to the person he thought most towny in the order mattering list, Korlash. Or the person he though most scummy, Spyre X. And I am willing to bet pretty much anything on that. Should SpyreX flip town I want Korlash dead.
You're also banking everything on Xtoxm here, even when you have three (or I guess at least two) possible targets. You've never struck me as the type of player to bet on one unsure thing like this before. I would think with a dead scum, a possible connection to him would be a highlight from you. yet I can't even remember you talking about the possible CKD/Spy connection, or even looking into him yourself.It's not my job to be right, it's my job to be convincing.
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For the record, I'll get to this. Typing up some notes now.yabbaguy wrote:Which is not an adequate substitute for responding to the points regarding your scumminess, I do need to point out.Show"I'm from Indiana. I know what you're thinking: Indiana... Mafia." - Jim Gaffigan
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progress update. caught up through page 67. Need sleep. will get remaining pages tomorrow and make big post with catchup and spyreX case
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OK I am caught up. Gonna make 2 posts back to back. 1 catchup/reads and other spyreX & ckd stuff
I still think all the scum got to be in (Spyre X or Korlash), inhim, DGB, Red. If I have to throw an extra person into the question it would be dutch just because I have a a slight nagging feeling ckd was gonna bus him but jumped ship when he realized he could. It is a slight feeling though so I'm not gonna go about pushing any wagons there. I'd like him to do something while/if he still truly wants to do something in this game. Won't entertain thoughts of Iam being scum as he jumped off the spyre X wagon when he didn't directly need too and he has pressured me when unneeded. He doesn't strike me as a scum that would do things in vain and go arround hap hazzard. Username scum would likly push harder and try to control this game more if he was scum given good standing he currently has. Weather has been going through rough stuff but has been awesome otherwise and yay I've had the worst real life luck ever as of late so yay weather is town. yabba and anti looked town earlier and I see no reason to change my mind. KMD is pretty nuetral though I kinda doubt he was with CKD. I don't see alot of possibility of it
DGB is probably moving to the outside of that scummary. I don't like how she has lost some of her day 1 presence in the game or how she seems to be getting more random but i don't think its as bad as the rest.
I don't think Red is scummy for hammering chevre. A lynch needed to happen, no lynches suck, it felt off that he was the one to do it but it needed done. And if he was scum only way he could benefit from that would be if he was saving a buddy from the noose so unless he is with dutch, the chevre hammer was a necessary town move to avoid no lynch. I do have some Qualms with him involving the pattern spyreX pointed out and his opinions seem to change pretty quickly. His response to spyre X was terrible when the pattern was first mentioned. Also at day start he was all 1.we can't assume anything on where xtoxm went, 2.then he goes after spyreX for xtoxm, 3.then he backs off and says we can't assume and that spyreX is town. This doesn't sound like a logical 1 2 3 process especially 1 to 2
I don't think Xtoxm would go to inhim but that doesn't mean I think inhim is town. I understand the true inhim hate. He hasn't really had a firm presence in this game and mostly road wagons with whoever. I'd be curious to know why he didn't have certain people on his want to lynch list earlier. That list was huge. Only 4 people still alive weren't on his list. Korlash, Anti, SpyreX, Iam. I'd like to know why he thinks Korlash and SpyreX are both town. And why did he abandon his previous Weatherman town read? And I mentioned earlier I had problem with him faking the PR more than No Case because inhim was the second to do it. He was the first to take the joke further and actually give no case ground to stand on. Like he said "it was ok to fake prs let's all do it!" I like the connection Iam pointed out between ckd and inhim too. Yay if deadline comes swift again I will get behind this if I can not get a spyreX lynch. Korlash's more recent comments towards spyreX are kinda making me want to back off a bit. Don't like Korlash's recent attitude but I still think there is reason to see ckd spyreX connect
@Korlash,Yes Zeenon was getting heavily suspected and well you should remember part of that game already. You replaced into it later on for hohum. Didn't you read/remember what happened there? Or you just been on hiatus too long?
Korlash's alignment is still opposite of SpyreX in my book. What Korlash did earlier did look somewhat like gloating towards spyre X, and Scum buddies may distance from each other but they don't generally disrespect. Thats kinda same reason I don't suspect Cyber. His response to CKD earlier was disrespective when he didn't care about the .... post .... If they really wanted to distance from each other there I think Cyber bob scum with CKD would have put forth alot more effort to do it.
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Time to finally do some actual grunt work on spyreX and not just parade arround with what I think Xtoxm did.
spyre X first brings up CKD as a result of:
He refers to CKD being a "random" player gorrad wanted chevre to talk about, when in reality Gorrad gave an actual reason for why he said ckd's name (Because no one had really talked about CKD at that point).SpyreX in http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2747425#p2747425 wrote:Gorrad wrote:Chevre isn't looking good. I agree with Shakespeare-scum tell and non-committal posts-tell, so let's see if we can hammer at one of those.
Chevre, I want your opinion of me, CKD, and Cyberbob, and SpyreX. No less than three sentences for each, stating why you believe them to be scum or town. Make it so that a random person I walk up to can understand you without issue. (Please note: I live in Texas. So assume a low average intelligence).
...Gorrad wrote:Me because I was the first wagon. Cyberbob because he's my main suspect. SpyreX and CKD because they have yet to be the target of any talk, so Chevre can't just follow the crowd.
If I've got to go through and look at how many people have actually 'been talked about' I will but I'd rather not.
There's one sure thing in common with Cyberbob and I though: We've both voted for Gorrad. HUH SHOCKER.
Which means I'd push the chance of CKD the 'random' name being a scum partner up. And its not like that's gonna be brought up:
Aside from an obvious question this is still timid baiting. Real timid.Gorrad wrote: CKD, money where your mouth is time. Point out where the firm stances and opinions are.
Chevre, I honestly appreciate the time and effort you put into making such a post. Mod: Would giving Chevre's WoT post to a person on the street and asking their opinions of it be in violation of any rules (such as talking about the game outside of the thread)?
That said, as I just hinted to, you really didn't give anything firm. The trend with you so far has been a lot of analysis with very little solid hunting. It's early game, so that can be forgiven, but I expect to actually see firm stances as the game goes on.
But this does start the 'CKD fight'. Which continues:
Mmm semantics the most delicious of fights.Gorrad to CKD wrote:You're dodging the question. I didn't say I didn't see any, and that isn't the point. You said "Firm" stances and opinions, and I want you to enumerate exactly what you meant.
DGB, all fluff? Seriously? I goofed around at the start, but I'm playin' serious (by my standards, at least) now.
And more talking to DGB. Sawheet.
And we'll finish this adventure.
So, another 'lol irony joke' framed in... nothing. Explaining the game to the outside just led us down eye-melt alley and that is not awesome.Gorrad wrote:In my defense, I more wanted him to post it in terms that someone on the street who already knew the game could understand. I was shooting for trying to get him to stop hiding behind fancy vocabulary (not that there's anything wrong with it in principle- it just seemed like he was being sesquipidalian for its own sake). I did not honestly expect him to explain out the entire game.
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4.) Even better is the 'random' list of people for Chevre that points at a CKD partner.
--- Note: see with all the timid nibbles his vote is still firmly on Cyberbob. YEEAAA BOI
You'll get more about others later but seriously.
Rather than go through and see if ckd was talked about elsewhere Spyre X looks to see if there was another reason Gorrad could have brought up CKD. He assumes they are a scum pair. SpyrE X paints that the 2 of them are scum together
here are the other times Spyre X mentions CKD:SpyreX in http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2747457#p2747457 wrote:Ohh, and of course I didn't bring it up:
I'm toying around with the idea of a dutch-gorrad connection but it seems too sloppy so I can't bite on it.
If Gorrad flipped scum and I was a confused vig I'd sure put a bullet through CKD though.SpyreX in http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2751167#p2751167 wrote:If I had to wager a second at the moment it'd be xaxle.Others are a function of some flipsand I dont want to spoil that until the time (except CKD, like I said)
There's a few others that I want more from.
All of this is exceptionally secondary to lynching Gorrad and DGB you're starting to be that girl and I dont like it.SpyreX in http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2754474#p2754474 wrote:
Because a CLAIM WAGON FOR THE SAKE OF A CLAIM IS FFFFFFFFGorrad wrote:And yet you're the one who repeats what I say in a mocking tone to make me look stupid then continue to insinuate it's scummy without any actual explanation for it.
Tell me, which is scummier: Me acknowledging what DGB's doing in a quick, quiet way, or you announcing to the world what the play is. Tell me exactly what my motive as scum would be to make my last post. Because if you're scum with Chevre, it would be in your best interest to make sure Chevre knows it's a claim-wagon.
Ohh look its a 'scummy' VT that's never going to be a night kill.
Well done gents.
I only have to mock because, like I said, its like going down the old school checklist. I dont need diagrams or fancy words to explain why claiming scum, fluffin' it up and wagon for claim not wagon for death aren't tech moves.
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And color me awesome because while I see a CKD-Gorrad connection why we gotta fight the machine every step of the way and do CKD first?
The last 2 quotes came at times where a wagons was getting going on CKD. SpyreX never really goes into detail of why CKD is scummy. He just agrees with the wagon on ckd somewhatSpyreX in http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2756891#p2756891 wrote:@Kor:
From the very beginning the 'case' was there. I -really- didn't think it was something that needed to be laid out point by point. And the early posts before I had to get all WORDS pretty clearly show what I was talking about.
And, yes, I AM looking ahead not to make Gorrad scum 'with other people' but to show my thought process whengorrad flips scum. Because spearheading a lynch like this if I am right is a death warrant. Which is fine.
And, some of the 'others' I am talking about should be clear to at least a few people (and crystal clear with the 'flips' I'm talking about) but, again, I am not trying to catch ALL the chickens right now just Gorrad related ones.
And, yes, I have spent a lot of energy on this and, frankly, the fact it took a bad wagon all the way to claim for anyone BUT GORRAD HIMSELF to pay attention to it sure doesn't spark that lovin' feelin of doing it again.
And, CKD is cart before the horse to a degree.Lynchable on his own? Sure (60/40). A much, much better lynch after a Gorrad scum flip? Hot damn yes (80/20).
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In general spy says ckd is partnered to gorrad for earlier logic he never looked into. Seems to believe CKD is scum or at least agrees with the wagon on CKD but never goes into as much detail everyone else is looking at or says what 60 he agrees with. He wants gorrad first and won't go at ckd without it. Is that 20% more that important? If you look at day 2 spyreX never really goes back to CKD, he is all dutch all the way. SpyreX doesn't mention ckd again until after CKD is already dead. All quotes I gave here were from day 1 and CKD doesn't mention CKD during day 2. It seems that Spyre X thought ckd was scum but never went after ckd directly at all. He just used ckd as evidence on . It is highly possible SpyreX had alteirior reasons for linking ckd and gorrad and reasons not to go after CKD. So SpyreX makes for a likly ckd buddy.
What did you think of CKD's earlier play SpyreX? what did you think was scummy and what did you think wasn't? Any opinions related to ckd and dutch and day 2, now?When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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ha, that's funny. The first thing I did when I clicked on the link was to mutter "I thought I was in this game." Then I clicked on one of the day links and was told it no longer existed, got fed up and came back here. I even looked at the player list, how did I miss that...Poker wrote:@Korlash, Yes Zeenon was getting heavily suspected and well you should remember part of that game already. You replaced into it later on for hohum. Didn't you read/remember what happened there? Or you just been on hiatus too long?
And I'll level with you. I don't know if it's the hiatus, the booze, or just all the fame and success I've been having but I can hardly remember any of the games I played before. Aside from the highlights, (Clerks, loser, to a lesser extent Deathnote and food fight) it's mostly just 'scenes' from here and there all jumbled up.... But hey, the past is just useless memories. Who cares about that junk, the future is where all the action is so let's move on...
Xtoxm stuck his neck out to push his belief onto the unwashed masses. This would mean that, assuming he would target people he thought was town, he would most likely target someone highly suspected by others. Maybe it's the huge assortment of beautiful super model girlfriends I don't have or maybe the large number of lines of pixie sticks I didn't snort with them last night but I can't actually remember who the town's biggest suspects yesterday were, but I know Dutch stands out. So does CKD. I want to say bob for some reason too... Point being, if he did target someone he thought was town I think it would only make sense he targeted someone under a fair amount of suspicion from the rest of us.
*Sigh* I hate you always being right about stuff... Guess we can play later then...Poker wrote:Time to finally do some actual grunt work on spyreX and not just parade arround with what I think Xtoxm did.
As much as I would love to just agree with you and grab the wiffle bats, *in a Mitch Hedberg accent* that just wouldn't be my style... So let's see what a point-counterpoint debate nets us.Poker wrote:In general spy says ckd is partnered to gorrad for earlier logic he never looked into. Seems to believe CKD is scum or at least agrees with the wagon on CKD but never goes into as much detail everyone else is looking at or says what 60 he agrees with. He wants gorrad first and won't go at ckd without it. Is that 20% more that important? If you look at day 2 spyreX never really goes back to CKD, he is all dutch all the way. SpyreX doesn't mention ckd again until after CKD is already dead. All quotes I gave here were from day 1 and CKD doesn't mention CKD during day 2. It seems that Spyre X thought ckd was scum but never went after ckd directly at all. He just used ckd as evidence on . It is highly possible SpyreX had alteirior reasons for linking ckd and gorrad and reasons not to go after CKD. So SpyreX makes for a likly ckd buddy.
I think your first sentence says it all. He labeled CKD as scum based almost entirely as being scum with Gorrad. Looking at the way he pressed Gorrad, regardless of his alignment it clearly reaks of something personal. Whether that is some form of vengeance, an ego thing, or a lifestyle change I can't say for sure. But if it ever came down to a Gorrad v. his number two, three, eight, goat, etc... He would logically push for Gorrad fist. And once Gorrad fliped town, anyone he primarily suspected as his partner would logically fall down a peg or three...
what kind of ulterior motives are you talking about? Also, did you miss a word or two on the "He just used ckd as evidence on -blank-"? seems like you were going somewhere and the record skipped, so to speak...It's not my job to be right, it's my job to be convincing.
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I don't remember doing 1, unless you can refresh my memory. The closest I got was that I was saying it was going to be guesswork (which it still is, btw). I wasn't trying to rule out reading Xtoxm, I was just stating a fact. Xtoxm, in my opinion, did not give the town enough to work on. He dropped the ball in this game.PF 1715 wrote:This doesn't sound like a logical 1 2 3 process especially 1 to 2
The rest of your posts seems fine without me going over it with a fine tooth comb.
If you would've told me weeks ago that I'd be in a large game that SpyreX was holding up the day for no good reason then I would've laughed in your face. I don't like this new Spy. Where's the bloodlust? He even criticizes me for getting the game moving along! I bring this up not just to mess with him, but because I want it on the record that while my intuition tells me Spy is probably town, his uncharacteristic attitude is telling me the opposite. This day has gone on far too long. Everyone not on inHim's wagon is holding this game up for selfish reasons. Either get on him or put some muscle behind an alternative wagon. This is ridiculous for a game with this many solid players in it to stagnate like this. No, it's not just Dutch and Antihero, although they deserve to be scolded. It's also the person who has been lounging on Kmd for however long, or the people who think their RC and Cyberbob votes look at all relevant anymore. If your main antagonist is not catching votes then it's time to find his (or her) sidekick and move your vote. Please.-
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CKD's early play was non existant. He was hiding in quotes AND not much else. I'll admit the D2 Chevre-save is a bit surprising but overal I wasn't happy.What did you think of CKD's earlier play SpyreX? what did you think was scummy and what did you think wasn't? Any opinions related to ckd and dutch and day 2, now?
Dutch still needs rope. D2 Dutch jumped to the forefront in my mind and although I can feel the 's through spacetime CKD would have been my second. But, yes, there was quite the margin because I wanted and STILL want Dutch to get rope.
And RC. Stuff like this should ring more bells than it does:
If you would've told me weeks ago that I'd be in a large game that SpyreX was holding up the day for no good reason then I would've laughed in your face. I don't like this new Spy. Where's the bloodlust? He even criticizes me for getting the game moving along! I bring this up not just to mess with him, but because I want it on the record that while my intuition tells me Spy is probably town, his uncharacteristic attitude is telling me the opposite. This day has gone on far too long.Everyone not on inHim's wagon is holding this game up for selfish reasons.Either get on him or put some muscle behind an alternative wagon. This is ridiculous for a game with this many solid players in it to stagnate like this. No, it's not just Dutch and Antihero, although they deserve to be scolded. It's also the person who has been lounging on Kmd for however long, or the people who think their RC and Cyberbob votes look at all relevant anymore. If your main antagonist is not catching votes then it's time to find his (or her) sidekick and move your vote. Please.
The important thing to note with this "everyone not on inhim is selfish" is that if someone like ohh KMD who I was talking to, were to vote instead for RC those wagons would be equal.inHimshallibe - 4 - RedCoyote, iamausername, yabbaguy, Kmd4390
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Day 1
Gorrad- 5 -nocase, inHimshallibe,Gorrad, SpyreX, Dutch one
Korlash - 2 - Korlash, Antihero
xalxe- 1 -chevre
nocase- 1 -curiouskarmadog,
chevre- 1 -xtoxm
Antihero - 1 - iamausername
Players not voting:werewolf555, RedCoyote, weatherman, DrippingGoofball, Kmd4390, Cyberbob, yabbaguy,farside22, pokerface,xalxe
chevre- 6 -xtoxm,farside22, DrippingGoofball, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, pokerface
Gorrad- 2 - SpyreX, Cyberbob
Antihero - 2 - iamausername, RedCoyote
xalxe- 1 -nocase
xtoxm- 1 - Antihero
Cyberbob - 1 -Gorrad
Dutch one - 1 -curiouskarmadog
yabbaguy - 1 -chevre
farside22- 1 - Korlash
Players not voting:werewolf555, weatherman, Kmd4390,xalxe, Dutch one
chevre- 5 -xtoxm, DrippingGoofball, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, pokerface
xtoxm- 3 - Antihero,farside22,werewolf555
Antihero - 2 - iamausername, Cyberbob
yabbaguy - 2 -chevre, Dutch one
Gorrad- 1 - SpyreX
xalxe- 1 -nocase
Cyberbob - 1 -Gorrad
Dutch one - 1 -curiouskarmadog
farside22- 1 - Korlash
pokerface - 1 - RedCoyote
Players not voting: weatherman, Kmd4390,xalxe
chevre- 6 -xtoxm, DrippingGoofball, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, pokerface,xalxe
xtoxm- 3 - Antihero,farside22,werewolf555
yabbaguy - 2 -chevre, Dutch one
Gorrad- 1 - SpyreX
xalxe- 1 -nocase
Antihero - 1 - iamausername
Cyberbob - 1 -Gorrad
Dutch one - 1 -curiouskarmadog
pokerface - 1 - RedCoyote
curiouskarmadog- 1 - Cyberbob
Players not voting: weatherman, Kmd4390, Korlash
chevre- 6 -xtoxm, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, pokerface,xalxe, Cyberbob
xtoxm- 3 - Antihero,farside22,werewolf555
yabbaguy - 2 -chevre, Dutch one
Gorrad- 2 - SpyreX, DrippingGoofball
xalxe- 1 -nocase
Antihero - 1 - iamausername
Cyberbob - 1 -Gorrad
Dutch one - 1 -curiouskarmadog
pokerface - 1 - RedCoyote
Players not voting: weatherman, Kmd4390, Korlash
chevre- 7 -xtoxm, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, pokerface,xalxe, Cyberbob,werewolf555
xtoxm- 2 -farside22, DrippingGoofball
yabbaguy - 2 -chevre, Dutch one
Gorrad- 1 - SpyreX
xalxe- 1 -nocase
Antihero - 1 - iamausername
Cyberbob - 1 -Gorrad
Dutch one - 1 -curiouskarmadog
pokerface - 1 - RedCoyote
werewolf555- 1 - Antihero
Players not voting: weatherman, Kmd4390, Korlash
chevre- 7 -xtoxm, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, pokerface,xalxe,werewolf555, DrippingGoofball
werewolf555- 2 - Antihero,chevre
curiouskarmadog- 2 -farside22,nocase
yabbaguy - 1 - Dutch one
Gorrad- 1 - SpyreX
Antihero - 1 - iamausername
nocase- 1 -Gorrad
Dutch one - 1 -curiouskarmadog
pokerface - 1 - RedCoyote
farside22- 1 - Cyberbob
chevre- 5 -xtoxm, yabbaguy, pokerface,xalxe,werewolf555
Gorrad- 4 - SpyreX, DrippingGoofball, RedCoyote,nocase
werewolf555- 2 - Antihero,chevre
curiouskarmadog- 1 -farside22
yabbaguy - 1 - Dutch one
Antihero - 1 - iamausername
nocase- 1 -Gorrad
Dutch one - 1 -curiouskarmadog
farside22- 1 - Cyberbob
SpyreX - 1 - Korlash
pokerface - 1 - Dutch one
Players not voting: weatherman, Kmd4390, inHimshallibe
Gorrad- 6 - SpyreX, DrippingGoofball, RedCoyote,nocase,werewolf555, inHimshallibe
chevre- 4 -xtoxm, yabbaguy, pokerface,xalxe
werewolf555- 2 - Antihero,chevre
curiouskarmadog- 1 -farside22
yabbaguy - 1 - Dutch one
nocase- 1 -Gorrad
Dutch one - 1 -curiouskarmadog
SpyreX - 1 - Korlash
xalxe- 1 - iamausername
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Kmd4390
Players not voting: weatherman, Dutch one, Cyberbob
werewolf555- 7 - Antihero,chevre,curiouskarmadog,farside22, RedCoyote, Dutch one,nocase
Gorrad- 4 - SpyreX,werewolf555, inHimshallibe, iamausername
chevre- 4 -xtoxm, yabbaguy, pokerface,xalxe
nocase- 1 -Gorrad
SpyreX - 1 - Korlash
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Kmd4390
KMD4390 - 1 - DrippingGoofball
Players not voting: weatherman, Dutch one, Cyberbob
werewolf555- 7 - Antihero,chevre,curiouskarmadog,farside22, RedCoyote, Dutch one,nocase
Gorrad- 5 - SpyreX,werewolf555, inHimshallibe, iamausername, Cyberbob
chevre- 3 -xtoxm, yabbaguy,xalxe
nocase- 1 -Gorrad
SpyreX - 1 - Korlash
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Kmd4390
KMD4390 - 1 - DrippingGoofball
Players not voting: Weatherman, PokerFace
werewolf555- 8 - Antihero,chevre,curiouskarmadog,farside22, RedCoyote, Dutch one,nocase, inHimshallibe
Gorrad- 5 - SpyreX,werewolf555, iamausername, Cyberbob
chevre- 3 -xtoxm, yabbaguy,xalxe
nocase- 1 -Gorrad
SpyreX - 1 - Korlash
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Kmd4390
KMD4390 - 1 - DrippingGoofball
werewolf555- 7 - Antihero,chevre,farside22, RedCoyote, Dutch one, inHimshallibe,nocase
Gorrad- 3 - SpyreX, iamausername, Cyberbob
chevre- 3 -xtoxm, yabbaguy,xalxe
nocase- 2 -Gorrad,werewolf555
SpyreX - 1 - Korlash
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Kmd4390
xalxe- 1 -curiouskarmadog
xtoxm- 1 - DrippingGoofball
Players not voting: Weatherman, PokerFace
werewolf555- 7 - Antihero,chevre,farside22, RedCoyote, Dutch one, inHimshallibe,nocase
Gorrad- 4 - iamausername, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, SpyreX
chevre- 3 -xtoxm, yabbaguy,xalxe
nocase- 2 -Gorrad,werewolf555
SpyreX - 1 - Korlash
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Kmd4390
xalxe- 1 -curiouskarmadog
RedCoyote - 1 - Weatherman
Players not voting: PokerFace
Gorrad- 8 - iamausername, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, SpyreX, Antihero, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy,nocase
werewolf555- 6 -chevre,farside22, RedCoyote, Dutch one, Korlash,curiouskarmadog
chevre- 2 -xtoxm,xalxe
nocase- 2 -Gorrad,werewolf555
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Kmd4390
RedCoyote - 1 - Weatherman
Players not voting: PokerFace,curiouskarmadog
Gorrad- 11 - iamausername, Cyberbob, SpyreX, Antihero, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy,nocase,farside22, Dutch one, Dripping Goofball, RedCoyote
werewolf555- 3 -chevre, Korlash,curiouskarmadog
chevre- 2 -xtoxm,xalxe
nocase- 2 -Gorrad,werewolf555
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Kmd4390
Antihero - 1 - Weatherman
Players not voting: PokerFace,curiouskarmadog
Day 2
Dutch one - 5 -curiouskarmadog, PokerFace, SpyreX, yabbaguy, RedCoyote
curiouskarmadog- 2 - DrippingGoofball,chevre
SpyreX - 1 - Korlash
Antihero - 1 - iamausername
PokerFace - 1 - Dutch one
xtoxm- 1 -nocase
Players not voting: Cyberbob, Antihero, inHimshallibe,xtoxm, Kmd4390, Weatherman
Dutch one - 5 - PokerFace, SpyreX, yabbaguy, RedCoyote,chevre
SpyreX - 2 - Korlash, Kmd4390
Antihero - 3 - iamausername, DrippingGoofball, Weatherman
PokerFace - 1 - Dutch one
xtoxm- 1 -nocase
curiouskarmadog- 1 - Cyberbob
chevre- 1 -curiouskarmadog
Cyberbob - 1 - inHimshallibe
Players not voting: Antihero,xtoxm
Antihero - 5 - iamausername, DrippingGoofball, Weatherman, RedCoyote, Cyberbob
Dutch one - 3 - PokerFace, SpyreX,chevre
SpyreX - 2 - Korlash, Kmd4390
chevre- 2 -curiouskarmadog, yabbaguy
PokerFace - 1 - Dutch one
xtoxm- 1 -nocase
Cyberbob - 1 - inHimshallibe
Players not voting: Antihero,xtoxm
Antihero - 5 - iamausername, DrippingGoofball, Weatherman, RedCoyote, Cyberbob
Dutch one - 3 - PokerFace, SpyreX,chevre
SpyreX - 2 - Korlash, Kmd4390
chevre- 2 -curiouskarmadog, yabbaguy
xtoxm- 2 -nocase, inHimshallibe
PokerFace - 1 - Dutch one
Players not voting: Antihero,xtoxm
xtoxm- 5 -nocase, inHimshallibe, Antihero, SpyreX, iamausername
Antihero - 2 - RedCoyote, Cyberbob
Dutch one - 2 - PokerFace,chevre
SpyreX - 2 - Korlash, Kmd4390
chevre- 2 - yabbaguy,curiouskarmadog
PokerFace - 1 - Dutch one
Players not voting:xtoxm, DrippingGoofball, Weatherman
xtoxm- 4 -nocase, inHimshallibe, Antihero, SpyreX
Antihero - 2 - RedCoyote, Cyberbob
Dutch one - 2 - PokerFace,chevre
PokerFace - 2 - Dutch one, Weatherman
SpyreX - 1 - Korlash
Cyberbob - 1 -curiouskarmadog
inHimshallibe - 1 - Kmd4390
Players not voting:xtoxm, DrippingGoofball, yabbaguy, iamausername
Dutch one - 3 - PokerFace,chevre, SpyreX
chevre- 3 - iamausername, yabbaguy, inHimshallibe
Antihero - 2 - Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball
PokerFace - 2 - Dutch one, Weatherman
SpyreX - 2 - Korlash,nocase
inHimshallibe - 2 - Kmd4390, RedCoyote
Cyberbob - 1 -curiouskarmadog
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Antihero
Players not voting:xtoxm
chevre- 5 - iamausername, yabbaguy, inHimshallibe, DrippingGoofball,nocase
Dutch one - 3 - PokerFace,chevre, SpyreX
PokerFace - 2 - Dutch one, Weatherman
SpyreX - 2 - Korlash, Kmd4390
Antihero - 1 - Cyberbob
inHimshallibe - 1 - RedCoyote
Cyberbob - 1 -curiouskarmadog
Players not voting:xtoxm, Antihero
chevre- 9 - iamausername, yabbaguy, inHimshallibe,nocase, Kmd4390, cyberbob, Dutch one, Pokerface, RedCoyote
Dutch one - 3 -chevre, SpyreX, Korlash
SpyreX - 1 - Weatherman
Cyberbob - 1 -curiouskarmadog
Kmd4390 - 1 - DrippingGoofball
Players not voting:xtoxm, Antihero
Day 3
SpyreX - 2 - Kmd4390, iamausername
inHimshallibe - 1 - RedCoyote
RedCoyote - 1 - yabbaguy
Players not voting: Antihero, DrippingGoofball, PokerFace, SpyreX, Dutch one, Korlash, Cyberbob, inHimshallibe, Weatherman
SpyreX - 3 - PokerFace, Korlash, iamausername
RedCoyote - 3 - yabbaguy, SpyreX, Cyberbob
inHimshallibe - 2 - RedCoyote, Kmd4390
Players not voting: Antihero, DrippingGoofball, Dutch one, inHimshallibe, Weatherman
SpyreX - 3 - PokerFace, Korlash, DrippingGoofball
RedCoyote - 3 - yabbaguy, SpyreX, Cyberbob
inHimshallibe - 2 - RedCoyote, iamausername
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Kmd4390
Players not voting: Antihero, Dutch one, inHimshallibe, Weatherman
SpyreX - 3 - PokerFace, Korlash, DrippingGoofball
RedCoyote - 2 - SpyreX, Cyberbob
inHimshallibe - 2 - RedCoyote, iamausername
DrippingGoofball - 1 - Kmd4390
Cyberbob - 1 - inHimshallibe
Kmd4390 - 1 - yabbaguy
Players not voting: Antihero, Dutch one, Weatherman
inHimshallibe - 4 - RedCoyote, iamausername, yabbaguy, Kmd4390
SpyreX - 2 - PokerFace, Korlash
RedCoyote - 2 - SpyreX, Cyberbob
Cyberbob - 2 - inHimshallibe, Weatherman
Kmd4390 - 1 - DrippingGoofball-
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So, from that mess lets look at the interesting bits on the fattest wagons on town:
Day 1:
Gorrad - 5 - nocase, inHimshallibe, Gorrad, SpyreX, Dutch one
chevre - 6 - xtoxm, farside22, DrippingGoofball, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, pokerface
chevre - 7 - xtoxm, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, pokerface, xalxe, Cyberbob, werewolf555
chevre - 5 - xtoxm, yabbaguy, pokerface, xalxe, werewolf555
werewolf555 - 7 - Antihero, chevre, curiouskarmadog, farside22, RedCoyote, Dutch one, nocase
Gorrad - 5 - SpyreX, werewolf555, inHimshallibe, iamausername, Cyberbob
werewolf555 - 8 - Antihero, chevre, curiouskarmadog, farside22, RedCoyote, Dutch one, nocase, inHimshallibe
Gorrad - 8 - iamausername, Cyberbob, DrippingGoofball, SpyreX, Antihero, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, nocase
Gorrad - 11 - iamausername, Cyberbob, SpyreX, Antihero, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, nocase, farside22, Dutch one, Dripping Goofball, RedCoyote
Day 2:
xtoxm - 5 - nocase, inHimshallibe, Antihero, SpyreX, iamausername
chevre - 5 - iamausername, yabbaguy, inHimshallibe, DrippingGoofball, nocase
chevre - 9 - iamausername, yabbaguy, inHimshallibe, nocase, Kmd4390, cyberbob, Dutch one, Pokerface, RedCoyote
There is scum on each of these wagons.
Pretty much guaranteed scum be here:
Antihero - 5 - iamausername, DrippingGoofball, Weatherman, RedCoyote, Cyberbob
Iffylands:
Dutch one - 5 - curiouskarmadog, PokerFace, SpyreX, yabbaguy, RedCoyote
Dutch one - 5 - PokerFace, SpyreX, yabbaguy, RedCoyote, chevre
First off, looking at it this way I'm apparently putting WAY too much stock in my early inhim read because his name stands out like a beacon.
Additionally, and not a surprise, RC looks really awesome too.
And the team doublewagoneers:
iamausername, Cyberbob, inHimshallibe, yabbaguy, Dutch one, RedCoyote
There's a HUGE amount of overlap here. Not a surprise. REALLY not surprised to see RC, Dutch, and after all in beautiful lines inHim there.
And, if you want to make it real fun - the following were ALSO on the werewolf wagon at apex:
RedCoyote, Dutch one, inHimshallibe
I still have a gut feeling about RC & Dutch higher than inHim but I wouldn't be surprised to see there be 2 in there. Or, hell, even all 3 in the greatest majesty ever.-
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If there's an alternative, then you need to make it happen or you need to conform. Period. You can cry self-preservation all you want, it just makes you sound whiny.Spy 1720 wrote:It's not a function of holding up the SURE FIRE WAGON. This is a disguised self-preservation measure and a bad one at that.
Also I love how you post a mountain of text as though no one has seen it before. Another week's worth of discussion, please, Mod! Courtesy of your friend SpyreX!-
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SpyreX, I already did all the calculations.
I don't know how you get Dutch one up there, and how PF and Cyberbob don't come up in your analysis.DrippingGoofball wrote:Cyber 25 + 50 + 15 + 25 + 25 + 5 = 145
PF 25 + 50 + 25 = 100
InHim 25 + 15 + 25 + 25 = 90
yabba 25 + 15 + 25 = 65
Anti 25 + 15 + 25 = 65
username 15 + 25 + 25 = 65
Spy 15 + 25 + 25 = 65
Dutch one 25 + 25 + 5 = 55
RC 25 + 25 = 50
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