That actually weighs pretty heavily for Dutch one being scum, actually. May have to rethink.curiouskarmadog wrote:how long do you think you are going to be able to avoid addressing? you cant ignore his scumminess much longer without implicating yourself...when dutch flips scum, what are you going to do tomorrow hon?....the link between you and dutch
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CKD told me the following:
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The above quote is important.Korlash wrote:The only point in Spy's favor is that he doesn't want to go after CKD before Gorrad, but it only helps show how little he has talked about CKD on his own. for someone who has said multiple times "Gorrad-CKD scum pair yuk yuk yuk" I would think he would care enough to say something about CKD...Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Of course it is, I said it. Naturally it should go in some hall of fame somewhere...It's not my job to be right, it's my job to be convincing.
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I didn't attack him in a weak way... I attacked him in a firm way... he's been on my scum list since the beginning of times... go iso me.RedCoyote wrote:
DGB's face when she read this:Korlash 1469 wrote:So what you're saying is, you attacked him, but in such a weak way that no one else took notice?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Seraphim Xtoxm - Hider, was killed on Night 2
curiouskarmadog - Mafia Suicide Bomber, was killed on Night 2
nocase - Vanilla Townie, was killed on Night 2
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CKD killed himself on nocase???Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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nocase was after InHim, SpyreX, and Cyberbob at the and of yesterday.
How come CKD didn't go after Antihero, who mis-counterclaimed Xtomx?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Isn't it true that's because you knew he was scum?!! Where were you on the Night of Septemburary twelfth? Who were you with? Where is Waldo! Blue or red wire! TALK DAMNIT! Don't make me go all good cop bad Korlash on you... I'll do it...DGB wrote:I didn't attack him in a weak way... I attacked him in a firm way... he's been on my scum list since the beginning of times... go iso me.
Well that would still leave the assumed vig's kill MOA, and i see no suggestion CKD's role would prevent the other scum from also killing. Meaning their second kill would be AWOL as well. CKD bombing Nocase is a bigger stretch then the spanish Inquisition... yeah yeah...DGB wrote:CKD killed himself on nocase???
Also, wouldn't you, as a person who suspected CKD for so long, automatically think the vig killed him? I just think that would have been your first thought.It's not my job to be right, it's my job to be convincing.
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Given how little enthusiasm my CKD-hate stirred up, it's a long shot. If anyone else was gung-ho on CKD-scum, they kept pretty quiet about it.Korlash wrote:Also, wouldn't you, as a person who suspected CKD for so long, automatically think the vig killed him? I just think that would have been your first thought.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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If we're assuming that Xtomx killed himself on SpyreX, that leaves nocase as the scum kill.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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Correct play when you are a hider is usually to confirm as many inocents as possibleKorlash wrote:
that's a bit of a stretch there poker... Unless you're saying he made a choice based on limited reading last night as well. I would think after being in he game for a full day he wouldn't have had to resort to the same tactic. Given the fact he claimed so readily and that he identified himself as "weak cop" i don't particularly think he was interested in self survival or townie hunting.Poker wrote:Given how hard xtoxm went at spyreX he is a possible option for where xtoxm went. And another option I see would be Korlash as Xtoxm may have hid with him for the same reasons he hid with yabba before. I think I'll check them both out and see if either had a connection to CKD
And you guys know I'm down with the Spy wagon... Just not going to put a dude at L-1 without letting him speak first... against my lovable and caring nature.Xtoxm wrote:I never claimed i'd finished reading the thread. I've only read up to page 9, actually. Being tunneled has just made me kinda apathetic about this game.
Arguements can be made in both directions. Still either xtoxm hid with you or he hid with spyreX. I severly doubt he'd pick someone else at random. One of you guys needs to die today. I doubt your are on the same side given previous comments. I am at work so I haven't found time to see which is ckd's more likly buddy. will vote when i find that timeXtoxm wrote:I have no real objection to be being lynched, but I think it would be kinda dumb seeing as how i'm confirmable and all.
Also I wasn't expecting the spainish inquisition...Korlash wrote:Well that would still leave the assumed vig's kill MOA, and i see no suggestion CKD's role would prevent the other scum from also killing. Meaning their second kill would be AWOL as well. CKD bombing Nocase is a bigger stretch then the spanish Inquisition...When I joined this site, I was a software tester for mobile business applications and the song PokerFace was not yet written by Lady Gaga
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Run up to god knows what under the weight of nothing?
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Xtoxm wrote:Townly
Yabbaguy<targeted him night one
Korlash<likly target for night 2?
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Dutch one
Weatherman
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Neutral
RedCoyote
Cyberbob
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The order in the town list is relevant. The order in the other lists is not.Xtoxm wrote:DGB I replaced in on Night 1 and had to make a choice based on only very limited reading,so I went for someone who I had a town lean on who I thought would not be NKed.Weatherman wrote:I do think a hider finding out innocents is much much better play than trying to get killed on scum.
That being said, if he went for scum, it was SpyreX. Last post of his:
This crumb or no crumb? It looks to me like the only possible crumb except if he used his list from iso 1Xtoxm wrote:While I don't object particularly to an inHim lynch, Spyrex would be my personal perference.
Inhim is now obvscum.DrippingGoofball wrote:Cyber 25 + 50 + 15 + 25 + 25 + 5 = 145
PF 25 + 50 + 25 = 100
InHim 25 + 15 + 25 + 25 = 90
yabba 25 + 15 + 25 = 65
Anti 25 + 15 + 25 = 65
username 15 + 25 + 25 = 65
Spy 15 + 25 + 25 = 65
Dutch one 25 + 25 + 5 = 55
RC 25 + 25 = 50
KMD 25
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obvscum? Really?
You're funny.
Spy's Vanilla claim seems like the truth. Not sure if "seems" is enough to save him.
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SpyreX is still potentially scum, but that was a terrible wagon based on a contrived interpretation of Xtoxm's death.
If he is Town, that wagon has scum on it.
DGB, you are simply reminding people about the fact that I am wrong.
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I should stop assuming other people make the same mistakes I doWeatherman wrote:I do think a hider finding out innocents is much much better play than trying to get killed on scum.
Weatherman's right.
Also, I failed to see this going back through Xtoxm:
Who fits this profile?Xtoxm wrote:DGB I replaced in on Night 1 and had to make a choice based on only very limited reading, soI went for someone who I had a town lean on who I thought would not be NKed.
Townlist: yabba, Korlash, Kmd, Dutch one, Weatherman, iam, CKD, inHim
Dutch one was one of the major wagons at the end of the day, not a likely nightkill target.
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I will get a real post up in a bit.
My reason for voting SpyreX has quite little to do with the hider business - that tell is shaky. It's about Spy's behaviour, being my preferred vote at the end of D2 and so on.
I have to say though, the vanilla claim at this point makes me sway some.
unvote SpyreXat least until I get my post up
The problem with any clear and followed breadcrumbs from Xtoxm would have been that unless he hit scum, the scum could kill his target and him easily. I just now realize how that claim was strategically unsound - hiderneedsthe crumbing to be really effective.
I was thinking it would be also possible that scum blocked and killed Xtoxm. But I just checked the natural action resolution from wiki, and at least there hiding happensbeforeblocking.
...hey, wait a minute, if that applies then antihero wouldn't have blocked Xtoxm N1 and yabba would be confirmed again!
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Oh, I didn't think about that. Yeah, that's true too.Weatherman wrote:
But a pretty likely vig target. (based on werewolf dying N1, I think expecting a vig would be natural)Antihero wrote:Dutch one was one of the major wagons at the end of the day, not a likely nightkill target.
I hate feeling like I'm outguessing Xtoxm, but I'd also hate for his death to be in vain.The distance between insanity and genius is measured only by success.-
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Not thrilled that you still decided to opportunistically turn it into an information wagon, Weatherman. But okay.
RedCoyote certainly gets minus points for suggesting a rather blatant inaccuracy about Xtoxm in the first place.yabbaguy ~ Winning without actually winning.
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Whole wagon is worth 100 points if I think there is one scum on it, or 200 if I think there are two, or rarely 150 for an in-between. I divide this by the number of uncleared players.Kmd4390 wrote:Also, DGB, why only 15 points on the Gorrad lynch?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
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This is a good point. This is a very good point.PF 1463 wrote:Given how hard xtoxm went at spyreX he is a possible option for where xtoxm went. And another option I see would be Korlash as Xtoxm may have hid with him for the same reasons he hid with yabba before. I think I'll check them both out and see if either had a connection to CKD
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As I implied earlier, this is such a good comeback that it hurts.Korlash 1469 wrote:So what you're saying is, you attacked him, but in such a weak way that no one else took notice?
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It isn't. Xtoxm hid behind yabba.DGB 1474 wrote:Isn't that interesting.
Your point system is so laudable and admirable, yet you waste your time going after whatever in God's name you're trying to go after in this post.DGB 1480 wrote:nocase was after InHim, SpyreX, and Cyberbob at the and of yesterday.
How come CKD didn't go after Antihero, who mis-counterclaimed Xtomx?
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Where were you yesterday when username was giving a Chevre mislynch to the scum on a silver platter?Kmd 1488 wrote:Inhim is now obvscum.
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What's yours then? Like PF?yabba 1490 wrote:SpyreX is still potentially scum, but that was a terrible wagon based on a contrived interpretation of Xtoxm's death.
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Explain. When was he not confirmed?Weatherman 1492 wrote:...hey, wait a minute, if that applies then antihero wouldn't have blocked Xtoxm N1 and yabba would be confirmed again!
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I don't know the innerworkings of Xtoxm's mind; I'd take a different approach to a Hider role, personally. Especially when I had already claimed. I see there's evidence to the contrary of what I initially thought to be the case, so I'm willing to entertain it. Who do you think he hid behind?yabba 1495 wrote:RedCoyote certainly gets minus points for suggesting a rather blatant inaccuracy about Xtoxm in the first place.
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No, I don't buy that RC. Xtoxm clearly laid out that he had, and therefore probably would, go down the tactics of picking the Towniest person he thought would not die.
And hey, curiouskarmadog is on the list. Obviously, he was quite wrong, but maybe quite literally he was dead wrong and hid with him. In that case, we have no further business to discuss. But aside from that, there are plenty of other Town people and I also think he was Nightkilled manually by the factional kill.
I also think the lashing out at quotes in a disjoint and random fashion is a scummy move, since it's not scumhunting, it's merely an effort to discredit players as much as possible. Earliest instance of seeing this tell... uhh... Antihero-scum in Open 175.
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