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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:36 pm

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Equinox wrote:I don't care which scum I lynch as long as it's scum. I am not SK hunting specifically.
But hito is town. He claimed on Day 1. Last night, he gave me his updated scum reads in case he died. There are many little hints like that one that add up to a townie, not an SK.

Now, he's going to be NK'd anyway.
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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:37 pm

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Great. Lets go another 30 pages..string someone up..and then not lynch them.
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:37 pm

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DTMaster wrote:Now join in the Courvis Wagon. I wanted to see how many people jumped of Almaster's wagon and I'm glad to see Mina sees something fishy with the quick Hito vote swaps.

We keep Hito. If he's a killer, we have him chained via lynch. I DTMaster want this wagon to be resolved. If NS can, use his innocent powers and remove all the votes now.
normally Id agree with this but Hito is very likely scum or sk. I dont see hitovig who is an awesome scumhunter taking advice of DGB and Andrius. More importantly, the advice these guys gave is anormal since they didnt even have Spyrex as scum by the end of day 1 (and had other choices as Jack and me, for example).
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:39 pm

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Thats very true. If I was a vig I'd be an island unto myself.

If I was an SK...who planed to fakeclaim vig...getting good graces with my god... "pretending to be a teamplayer"...seems like a good path.
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:39 pm

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populartajo wrote:why didnt you guys vig me? I thought all your followers, specially HITO and even YOU thought I was scum by the end of day
Hito really didn't want to kill you, but we compromised after I made a voting analysis, narrowed it down to a couple of players, run it by Andrius, and the credit goes to Andrius for picking SpyreX.
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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:40 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
populartajo wrote:why didnt you guys vig me? I thought all your followers, specially HITO and even YOU thought I was scum by the end of day
Hito really didn't want to kill you, but we compromised after I made a voting analysis, narrowed it down to a couple of players, run it by Andrius, and the credit goes to Andrius for picking SpyreX.
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:40 pm

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Mina wrote:Well, before the thread closes, I forgot to ask you. Why do you have town reads on Spy and Andrius again? You never answered me before.

Mostly gut. Though sometimes SpyreX speaks in mysterious ways.
This is DGB's last post of day 1.

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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:42 pm

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Andrius wrote:I TOLD YOU SPYREX WAS SCUM.
SEE, MINA?!? WE WERE RIGHT!! :D

*runs off to DGB's altar with fruit*
eh he didn't actually really tell us spy was scum, but.
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:45 pm

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populartajo wrote:I SERIOUSLY doubt they somehow changed the read on Spyrex and prefered him over people they (Andrius, hito and DGB) called scum constantly (Jack, me).
But I did.

This is PARAPHRASED what I wrote in the QT:
I wrote:WE know WE're town and DRK flipped town. Therefore

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DTMaster, SpyreX, NS >>>> these 3 have an increased likelihood of being scum.

NS can't be killed. DTMaster claimed hider.

By wagon analysis, DTMaster and SpyreX each have a 50% probability of flipping scum.
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:46 pm

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Why I Believe hitogoroshi Is Serial Killer

presented in partial fulfillment of the requirements of the Responsible Town degree

Author's note: The explanation I gave to Fishythefish was very eloquently worded, and apparently I cannot quote it word for word, so tell me if I reworded it funny or something.


Very early on Day 1, a few people presented some probabilities for scum placement between the three temples. A theory was presented that there were three scum because it "seemed right for this size setup" (hitogoroshi 46).

For the past two days, I have been assuming a 4-man scum team plus the scum god. It made sense, since 25% of 18 was 4.5, and I rounded up for worst-case scenario; the range of scum:town that I have seen goes from 21% to 28%, so I figured my calculation made sense. While I was rereading the thread, I came across the above cited post by hitogoroshi, and I thought something was off. I questioned him, and he gave his justification behind believing in a 3-man scum team (hitogoroshi 1575).

I asked myself, "Why would he assume that there would be double-kills every night?" That is the only way this game can go to Day 3 LyLo. I can see scum slipping the number on their team, but this implied extra knowledge on the part of hitogoroshi; a town vigilante would have made the same guess as I did, since they would not know about the makeup of any anti-town parties. However, a serial killer benefits from two extra pieces of information that neither town nor scum have, and that is that the scum team is reduced in size (for balancing purposes) and that there would be double-kills every night.

Therefore, I believe hitogoroshi is the serial killer. I thought back to DrippingGoofball's fervent defending of hitogoroshi despite heat from players such as farside22 and Lost Butterfly, and I realized that hitogoroshi most likely claimed a power role to DrippingGoofball. Serial killers claim vigilante because that is the claim that makes the most sense.
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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:47 pm

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Andrius really had it in for SpyreX, too. That contributed in the decision.

Also, tajo, I hinted very strongly that hito was a PR in the QT.

Your behavior is very un-townlike.
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:48 pm

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WHY I BELIEVE Equinox is scum:
Equinox wrote:
Why I Believe hitogoroshi Is Serial Killer
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:49 pm

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Equinox wrote:I asked myself, "Why would he assume that there would be double-kills every night?"
BECAUSE He's the VIG. Duh. :roll:
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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:50 pm

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Even I think there's are 2 scums, 1 traitor, and 1 scumgod. That's a educated guess. I have no special info, Equinox.
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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:51 pm

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Reading your posts now, I've realized I have been ridiculously sloppy. I went after hitogoroshi out of zeal because I thought I'd found a slip, and that to me meant he was confirmed scum. The possibility that he could have been useful as an extra town-controlled gun completely escaped my mind.

I do not have a defense for that. That was a grave lapse in judgment on my part.

Let me think about this for a bit. While I'd like to lynch any manner of scum I could get my grubby hands on, the idea that we could use hitogoroshi as a vig does sound like a good one.
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:51 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Even I think there's are 2 scums, 1 traitor, and 1 scumgod. That's a educated guess. I have no special info, Equinox.
I know you don't. I suspect hitogoroshi of having that extra information.
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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:52 pm

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Feel free to unvote while you do that thinking.
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:52 pm

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Dude, double kills confirm Hito as SK or vig.
He can't be scum
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We don't want to kill the SK (yet) Come one people 2 town directed kills? Confirmed via QTs? Across an entire neighbourhood? Yeah all the scum are under DGB's roof.

Join me into the magnificent Courvis wagon. :3 I want Almaster to post more analysis. There is gut feelings there and with the recent posts, I expect particular reactions based on what he read in the QT and posted here versus what DGB just talked about.
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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:54 pm

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Err specifically Mafia scum.
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:55 pm

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Okay dokey

I hope there's a coconut in this basket.

VOTE: Corvuus
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:55 pm

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Benmage, Equinox. If Hito is SK he's following under the town's directive. Let's USE THAT and huntz Mafia scumz. If we catch all the predetermined Mafia scumz and the game doesn't end, let's deal with it. If Hito flubs as SK then we deal with it then. 2 town directed kills versus 1 town lynch and 1 scum NK. DEAL man. TOTALLY DEAL.
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:56 pm

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DrippingGoofball wrote:
Andrius really had it in for SpyreX, too. That contributed in the decision.
Also, tajo, I hinted very strongly that hito was a PR in the QT.
Your behavior is very un-townlike.
here we go again

lets see if you are missing some key parts of this:

- I think hito is scum.
- You think hito is town.
- You risk him of being hammered when you "know" he is a PR.
- Hins night choice DOESNT MAKE SENSE according to his suspicions.
- His night choice DOESNT MAKE SENSE according to your suspicions.

and me doubting this is very un-townlike. :roll:

anyway, why are you so sure hito is a vig and not a sk? what special behavior do you see on him that excludes him from being sk?
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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:56 pm

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Okay, fine. hitogoroshi can be the honorary vigilante.
I want hitogoroshi to shoot me tonight.
Consider that a request from this fool of a priest. Fishythefish has all of my notes and my thought processes, and he can pass them among named members of the Temple of Time as necessary. I will post my scum reads closer to nightfall, but should I fail, that duty also falls to Fishythefish. I trust my god entirely.

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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:59 pm

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Equinox wrote:
I want hitogoroshi to shoot me tonight.
This was on the table for tonight, actually, because we didn't think of it last night. But since you
ask
, there's really no point in doing it, so we'll probably go for scum unless we have nothing better to do.
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:59 pm

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Between Hitos NK and my hide we narrow down the anti-town list pretty fast. "is giddy"

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