In the Court of the Gods (Game Over)

[Equinox]

There is a reason I picked that particular snapshot and not the end result wagon. My theory is that, in a high-pressure "We're willing to wagon all the way to lynch" environment, it's much harder to build a wagon on scum than it is to build on town; it would be much more liable to fizzle and die before it ever reaches L-2, and I had the opportunity to put Feysal at L-1. If I recall correctly, we had people ready to hammer as soon as Feysal got into the thread to claim. The fact that Feysal's wagon got so close to lynch at all is what makes me doubt that it was a wagon on scum; again, in that environment, a wagon on scum has to be entirely town-driven because there's no reason for scum to bus. DeathRowKitty got some pretty well-deserved hate for his behavior, and scum would not have had any trouble jumping on the DeathRowKitty wagon if they needed to save Feysal-scum.

[Lost Butterfly]

to the quicktopic mobile I go to see what Mina's thinking!

that 8/8 wagon thing might be useful if one was scum (i don't really think feysal is) but apart from that, yes vc analysis etc.

[DrippingGoofball]

a wagon on scum has to be entirely town-driven because there's no reason for scum to bus.

Wut? Scum always bus'es.

DeathRowKitty got some pretty well-deserved hate for his behavior, and scum would not have had any trouble jumping on the DeathRowKitty wagon if they needed to save Feysal-scum.

But that's what they probably did... if Feysal is scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Equinox, do you want me to claim on hito's behalf? I know what he's going to claim.

YES/NO

Otherwise, unvote.

[DrippingGoofball]

I believe we're moving from a wagon on scum, to a wagon on a townie, based on a rushed vanilla claim.

[Benmage]

Equinox, do you want me to claim on hito's behalf? I know what he's going to claim.

YES/NO

Otherwise, unvote.

I do.

[Benmage]

LB unvoted so he's L-2..no worry for NS quicklynch.

[zoraster]

Day 2 Vote Count

Andrius ( 1 ) AlmasterGM,

(L - 7 )

populartajo ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

hitogoroshi ( 6 ) populartajo, Feysal, farside22, Benmage, Equinox,

Fishythefish,

(L - 2 )

nopointinactingup ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

Equinox ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

farside22 ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

Feysal ( 1 ) hitogoroshi,

(L - 7 )

Lost Butterfly ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

Corvuus ( 1 ) DTMaster,

(L - 7 )

Benmage ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

Almaster GM ( 4 )

DrippingGoofball,

Andrius, nopointinactingup, Corvuus,

(L - 4 )

DTMaster ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

Not Voting ( 2 )

Nobody Special,

Lost Butterfly,
Total Votes ( 15 )

Deadline: March 7th at 23:00 EDT
With 15 able to vote, 8 needed to lynch.

[Equinox]

I think I see why we're not seeing the same thing. Our reads are entirely different.

The people who jumped off Feysal from my snapshot to yours: Equinox, Lady Lambdadelta, farside22, Jack

According to you, two of those people are scum (Equinox, Jack), and so you are going to hold the stance that scum were bussing Feysal and then jumped off when the opportunity availed itself. My stance is that I have town reads on all four, and then you have that analysis I just did (which I also based on my reads of this game).

*sigh*

I guess we have to agree to disagree or else this is going to turn into a wall battle of noise. But I'm still not letting you lynch Feysal.

Preview edit:

Equinox, do you want me to claim on hito's behalf? I know what he's going to claim.

YES/NO

Otherwise, unvote.

I think I have a very good idea of what he's claiming, and I am prepared to call for the hammer if that is indeed his claim. No, I am not unvoting. Claim if you so desire.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think I have a very good idea of what he's claiming, and I am prepared to call for the hammer if that is indeed his claim. No, I am not unvoting. Claim if you so desire.

What do you think he's going to claim? Quick answer plz. I'm on hold.

[Equinox]

Phone posting, class just got out.

He claimed vig, did he not?

[Equinox]

Fishythefish can post the explanation if he's here; it's long, but I suspect, based on the slip I've called out, that hitogoroshi is SK.

[DrippingGoofball]

Fishythefish can post the explanation if he's here; it's long, but I suspect, based on the slip I've called out, that hitogoroshi is SK.

Spoken like a true scum bag, worrying about SKs.

But explain.

Why would you want to hammer a claimed vig? SK or town, he's a NK target. Hammering a claimed/uncounterlclaimed vig is as dumb as hammering a claimed/uncounterclaimed doctor.

[DrippingGoofball]

Equinox, you are SK-hunting, are you not?

[Benmage]

Call me hunting SK.

Claim for hito

Had AGM claimed doc, with No CC... I'd be more than happy to lynch him.

[Lost Butterfly]

is hito claiming vig or are we dancing around the subject.

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't know about you guys, but I want that hammer to drop. Forcing a replacement to claim and then hammering sounds cruel to me, and I highly doubt Jack's slot has anything to say in its defense.

Why did you abandon the Jack/AGM wagon after this? Explanations please.

[DrippingGoofball]

is hito claiming vig or are we dancing around the subject.

We are currently dancing around the subject in a effort to catch scum.

[Lost Butterfly]

Ok, thanks.

[DrippingGoofball]

Had AGM claimed doc, with No CC... I'd be more than happy to lynch him.

Who lynches a claimed doctor, except perhaps in suspicious end game situations? It's like you get a free lynch, since the claimed doc is going to be NK'd. You move on to another player in the hope of hitting scum.

Same for vig claims... Pfffffffffft I doubt there is a Doctor in this game anyway, so PR are high NK targets.

[DrippingGoofball]

Call me hunting SK.

Claim for hito

Had AGM claimed doc, with No CC... I'd be more than happy to lynch him.

And bloodthirsty as you are... why did you move away from the Jack/AGM lynch????

You'd be happy to hammer a claimed PR, but you will spare a rushed vanilla claim?

Explanations from you, too, and hurry up.

[Benmage]

Had AGM claimed doc, with No CC... I'd be more than happy to lynch him.

Who lynches a claimed doctor, except perhaps in suspicious end game situations? It's like you get a free lynch, since the claimed doc is going to be NK'd. You move on to another player in the hope of hitting scum.

Same for vig claims... Pfffffffffft I doubt there is a Doctor in this game anyway, so PR are high NK targets.

Doc chances are slim %. I'd let one slide for the wine.

Plus its a bullshit excuse...a scums on his last leg...so he outs a PR..or lives and gets a townie mislynched... IF YOU PLAY SCUMMY. You get lynched. Fuck your role.

In mafia 116 we let the scummy looking town JK live for several days...and that could either be RB us..Or protecting out attempted Kills.

[Benmage]

Call me hunting SK.

Claim for hito

Had AGM claimed doc, with No CC... I'd be more than happy to lynch him.

And bloodthirsty as you are... why did you move away from the Jack/AGM lynch????

You'd be happy to hammer a claimed PR, but you will spare a rushed vanilla claim?

Explanations from you, too, and hurry up.

Yeah.. I would've expected a smarter fake claim by AGM.

[populartajo]

DGB, read your sig.

[Benmage]

DGB, read your sig.

BOOOM