In the Court of the Gods (Game Over)

[Equinox]

This one should work. If it doesn't, I need to meddle with the permissions again.

But I understand this as Feiysal being more likely scum, Equinox.

Just had a thought about that, so I'm re-analyzing now. I'll be back in a bit when I'm done parsing.

[Equinox]

Now that I think about it, though, if Feysal was a town-driven wagon, then it wouldn't matter whether or not it was competitive to the DeathRowKitty wagon.

Let's see:

Feysal (8) - DTMaster,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

SpyreX

, Nobody Special, hitogoroshi, farside22,

DeathRowKitty

, DrippingGoofball
DeathRowKitty (8) - populartajo, Benmage, Andrius, Fishythefish, Feysal, Jack, Corvuus, nopointinactingup

Sitting on the fence like Humpty Dumpty (2) - Equinox, Mina

If I were to analyze this based on my current reads right now, I would say that the scum were scattered between the two wagons, and both were pushed in some way by town. To steal Jack's summary of this, "It's as though the scum didn't care who got lynched." (That may not be an exact quote, and I don't care to check right this minute.) Looking at this snapshot again, though, the tail end of DeathRowKitty's wagon is particularly weak compared to Feysal's tail end; Corvuus and nopointinactingup hopped onto DeathRowKitty last, whereas the Feysal wagon had farside22, confirmed town DeathRowKitty, and you. On the other hand, there is strong middle support in DeathRowKitty's wagon (Andrius and Fishythefish) and very weak middle support in the Feysal wagon (SpyreX, Nobody Special, hitogoroshi).

...brain breakage.

Hmm. I don't see the Feysal wagon being strongly town-driven, and the

only

way for a viable competing wagon to start up on scum in that environment is if the wagon was town-driven. There was no motivation for scum to bus in that situation. Here, I see very weak middle support in the Feysal wagon: SpyreX was an opportunistic scumbag, Nobody Special is the scum god, and hitogoroshi was all policy-like when he decided to hop off his scum suspect DeathRowKitty and join the Feysal wagon. That is not town-driven.

Yep. Third analysis, same result. I am not budging on this.

[zoraster]

Day 2 Vote Count

Andrius ( 1 ) AlmasterGM,

(L - 7 )

populartajo ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

hitogoroshi ( 6 ) Lost Butterfly, populartajo, Feysal, farside22, Benmage, Equinox,

(L - 2 )

nopointinactingup ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

Equinox ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

farside22 ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

Feysal ( 1 ) hitogoroshi,

(L - 7 )

Lost Butterfly ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

Corvuus ( 1 ) DTMaster,

(L - 7 )

Benmage ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

Almaster GM ( 5 )

DrippingGoofball,

Andrius, nopointinactingup, Corvuus,

Fishythefish,

(L - 3 )

DTMaster ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

No Lynch ( 0 )

(L - 8 )

Not Voting ( 1 )

Nobody Special,

Total Votes ( 15 )

Deadline: March 7th at 23:00 EDT
With 15 able to vote, 8 needed to lynch.

[Equinox]

Wait a minute.

hitogoroshi didn't slip. I screwed up my arithmetic. Why didn't you bloodthirsty folk stop me when I called him out on a nonexistent slip?

Unvote

(Sorry, zoraster. )

...yeah, so

now

I'm off to read hitogoroshi.

[Lost Butterfly]

why would you do that

[Equinox]

...no, wait. Dammit. I forgot to add the gods to the list of priests. That makes it Day

4

MyLo given single kills, not Day 3 LyLo, which again sends me back to the theory that hitogoroshi screwed up when he announced on Day 1 that the scum team had to be 3 players by assuming double-kills every night. (Even then, hitogoroshi's math shows Day 3 MyLo, but the problem remains about why hitogoroshi assumed double-kills would occur

every night up to Day 3

when it was barely Day 1.)

Oh my god I am going to shoot myself in the head. Sorry. I think zoraster might be ready to strangle me to death with all the vote-hopping I've done today alone...

*sigh*

Vote: hitogoroshi

Preview edit: Because I'm actually insane.

[Lost Butterfly]

Yes we can!

[farside22]

@Benmage: Was there a reason you pointed out the VT PM was on page one?

[Benmage]

@Benmage: Was there a reason you pointed out the VT PM was on page one?

That scum have access to it.

[farside22]

@AGM: Was there a reason you read the end and saw you needed to claim? Did the mod say anything to you about the person you replacing being at L-1?

[Corvuus]

My time is running negative . I am sorry but I am going to be

VLAish

and very limited posting and just early morning and late evening.

I have also not fully read. Mainly just iso'ed zoraster and Jack's new replacement.

Almaster GM needs to answer a few questions.

I don't know Zoraster's policy nor with regard to quicktopic/PM between priests and Gods and replacements.

Almaster GM, can you ask and handle PM/quicktopic discussion such that you have what Jack said and did, etc.
A major point for why Jack needs to die is that he pulled a gambit (iso jack) based on PM/quicktopic with his God and that he could pull this gambit as both town and scum and the conclusion for this gambit regardless of alignment would be toward NS being scum. If you can get this and PM/quicktopic, comment, post and say why you are town, it would be great.

If you can't get the pm/quicktopic/comment, then it is something close to a policy information lynch in that I sincerely believe that your slot must die. As it is, i'm heavily leaning towards scum-Jack and I'm not that clear on your replacing in posts since I would assume that Jack has a quicktopic with NS but you just said that he is your God, you worship him, but no communication or quicktopic mentioned? Again, there is nebulous meta involvement but you need to at least read Jack and NS, give your thoughts on that with full disclosure otherwise... die. (I don't think Jack is typical in flake/replace out and replacements should have some time but I can not stress how important this discussion and Jack/Alamaster GM's lynch and flip is. Even if Jack flips town, I strongly feel that it will result in better town positioning even if Hito is scum and we lynched him instead.)

---

hopefully back tomorrow morning.

Corv

[Equinox]

...now I see why DTMaster wants to kill you.

Am I understanding this correctly? You're saying that Jack's gambit against Nobody Special is null, but we (potentially!) got the information that Nobody Special is probably scum. Because Jack pulled his null gambit, Jack needs to die. Jack needs to die so (and I'm pulling this from your iso) we can get information about Nobody Special-scum. You're leaning Jack-scum.

News flash, mate: We've known for a while now that Nobody Special is scum. We don't need any lynches to tell us that.

Ick.

I'm also unclear how you jumped from Jack-town (February 23, 1398) to putting Jack at pseudo-L-1 (February 25, 1457), especially since you somehow tied it to the "original gambit" that you, on the 23rd, called townish:

Jack: You believe DGB is the scum God? I'm not clear on your reasoning.
In terms of 'facetious' posts, what exactly are you referring to? Clarify your original gambit?
I'm siding towards you claiming and I am willing to vote you but I don't see a reason to put you at L-1 in the off-random i have no idea why chance that NS picks up the hammer. So consider yourself at L-1.

[Benmage]

Almaster GM, can you ask and handle PM/quicktopic discussion such that you have what Jack said and did, etc.
A major point for why Jack needs to die is that he pulled a gambit (iso jack) based on PM/quicktopic with his God and that he could pull this gambit as both town and scum and the conclusion for this gambit regardless of alignment would be toward NS being scum. If you can get this and PM/quicktopic, comment, post and say why you are town, it would be great.

I thought of this...unfortunately I think it would be impossible because the gambit occurred in PMs prior to the installation of a QT.

[AlmasterGM]

@AGM: Was there a reason you read the end and saw you needed to claim? Did the mod say anything to you about the person you replacing being at L-1?

No, the mod didn't say anything. I skimmed the last page or so before I replaced in. I'm actually kinda busy and don't have time to read 60 pages … the only reason I replaced in was because I saw all that was needed was a claim and figured I would help the game out and provide that.

Almaster GM, can you ask and handle PM/quicktopic discussion such that you have what Jack said and did, etc.

I PM'd Nobody Special. He gave me the QT, which is really short and doesn't say a whole lot. It's just 1) Jack accusing NS of being scum twice and 2) NS trying to feed Jack some secret information about a Hider. However, Jack didn't want to play along because he thought NS was scum trying to falsely confirm scum as town.

NS said he would get me the rest of the PMs later today.

A major point for why Jack needs to die is that he pulled a gambit (iso jack) based on PM/quicktopic with his God and that he could pull this gambit as both town and scum and the conclusion for this gambit regardless of alignment would be toward NS being scum. If you can get this and PM/quicktopic, comment, post and say why you are town, it would be great.

Um, well I don't really know how I'm supposed to prove I'm town. I have no clue why Jack did what he did.

[Lost Butterfly]

Even if Jack flips town, I strongly feel that it will result in better town positioning even if Hito is scum and we lynched him instead.)

Even if Jack flips town, I strongly feel that it will result in better town positioning even if Hito is scum and we lynched him instead.)

Even if Jack flips town, I strongly feel that it will result in better town positioning even if Hito is scum and we lynched him instead.)

Even if Jack flips town, I strongly feel that it will result in better town positioning even if Hito is scum and we lynched him instead.)

Even if Jack flips town, I strongly feel that it will result in better town positioning even if Hito is scum and we lynched him instead.)

Even if Jack flips town, I strongly feel that it will result in better town positioning even if Hito is scum and we lynched him instead.)

Even if Jack flips town, I strongly feel that it will result in better town positioning even if Hito is scum and we lynched him instead.)

asdfsfsfasadsdsdas what the fuck

[Lost Butterfly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwTOfQ-izgA @ corvuss comment I quoted.

[Fishythefish]

VT claim is a good towntell. My priests are very convincing in their Hitohate - enough to make me happy to

UNVOTE: VOTE: Hito

L-1.

[Benmage]

Claim time..

MOD please prod hito

[DrippingGoofball]

Shall I claim for hito?

I've been hinting that's he's town for a reason.

[Lost Butterfly]

Wait a minute.

UNVOTE: hitogoroshi

No. It's not claim time, yet. The late hito votes has felt wrong, and a few people said stuff that caught my attention.

...Haha, Faraday is going to kill me for this.

[DrippingGoofball]

VT claim is a good towntell.

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

Only for certain circumstances surrounding a VT, not a VT claim in general.

[Fishythefish]

VT claim is a good towntell.

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

Only for certain circumstances surrounding a VT, not a VT claim in general.

Pretty much any VT claim outside of massclaim, when the claimant has a wagon on them they might be able to derail.

[DrippingGoofball]

Now that I think about it, though, if Feysal was a town-driven wagon, then it wouldn't matter whether or not it was competitive to the DeathRowKitty wagon.

Let's see:

Feysal (8) - DTMaster,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

SpyreX

, Nobody Special, hitogoroshi, farside22,

DeathRowKitty

, DrippingGoofball
DeathRowKitty (8) - populartajo, Benmage, Andrius, Fishythefish, Feysal, Jack, Corvuus, nopointinactingup

Sitting on the fence like Humpty Dumpty (2) - Equinox, Mina

I don't know where you were schooled in wagon analysis, but you take the WRONG wagon. You have to take the FINAL wagon.

Feysal (7) DTMaster,

SpyreX

, hitogoroshi,

DeathRowKitty

,

DrippingGoofball

,

DeathRowKitty

(10) populartajo, Benmage, Fishythefish, Feysal, Corvuus, nopointinactingup, Equinox,

Lady Lambdadelta

, farside22, Jack

[DrippingGoofball]

Pretty much any VT claim outside of massclaim, when the claimant has a wagon on them they might be able to derail.

The hope of derailing a wagon as vanilla are not particularly large for with the Disciples of Lynch All Vanilla Claims, headed by Yosarian2.

You sound like a scum god protecting Jack/AGM.

[Fishythefish]

What? A VT claim is a towntell when the claimant has a wagon on them they might be able to derail

by claiming PR

. Precisely because of the Disciples of Lynch All Vanilla Claims.