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Hoppster Mafia Scum
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You made two points:
- You have a town read on VPB
- You want VPB dead
Why do you want town dead?
Even if we then disregard your first point, your second point contrasts with your behaviour. You want some guy dead, you then don't vote him.
Perhaps it's the LSD but all that seemed awfully self-contradictory.Benmage: First, for the sake of irony. I'm going to illustrate how completely idiotic and hypocritical scumhunter is.-
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chesskid3 Survivor
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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I actually agree with CHesskid (egads!)
@Hoppster - how is that, *in any way*, a scumtell?
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@ chesskid: Well, I understand to a better extent but still not completely. What is it about his playstyle that makes you want him dead?
@ Thor: While I don't completely agree with everything VPB has been posting, so far he's seemed to me to be decently pro-town. Is wanting pro-town people dead not anti-town? That seemed rather intuitive to me.Benmage: First, for the sake of irony. I'm going to illustrate how completely idiotic and hypocritical scumhunter is.-
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Meta says Chess is prob town. Jason is likely town. I hate VPs vote on him. Yea Jason made a VI post, that doesn't make him scum. The scum are prolly the ones sitting back like IS and Bella.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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@Hoppster - anti-town is different than scummy. That seemed rather intuitive to me as well. What's the scum tell?-
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Hoppster Mafia Scum
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@ Thor: "Anti-Town is a catch-all term that applies to any role that is neither pro-Town or ambiguous. An anti-Town role or faction is one whose win condition is to kill off all pro-Town players. The most common anti-Town role is the Mafia Goon.
In addition to killing all the pro-Town roles, most third-party anti-Town roles also need to kill off any other anti-Town players in the game. The most common third-party anti-Town role is the Serial Killer.
Anti-Town roles or factions are commonly referred to collectively as Scum. " ~ MafiaScum Wiki.
This seems to suggest that Anti-Town tell = Scum tell. YOUR INTUITION IS WRONG.
@ NC: What about sotty/Zach's vote on Jason?Benmage: First, for the sake of irony. I'm going to illustrate how completely idiotic and hypocritical scumhunter is.-
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Pressure vote? That's how I read it.Hoppster wrote: @ NC: What about sotty/Zach's vote on Jason?
@Sotty Do you actually find Jason scummy or was it a pressure vote to ge him to respond to 452?Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Hoppster Mafia Scum
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^Must be sarcasm because he hung a lampshade on it.
@Hoppster - okay...what was the scumvantage to doing what he did? Or do you think he's dumb enough to openly declare scum in thread (though I could see where that conclusion could come from).
Seriously - shove the wiki and tell me *why Chess is scum for his attitude towards VPB* why are you having trouble doing this since it was worthy of a vote?-
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Apparently it was. Derp on me.Hoppster wrote: @ NC: Wasn't VPB's vote also a pressure vote? I saw them both as pressure votes.Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
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Hoppster Mafia Scum
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That lampshade reference is lost on me I'm afraid. Unless you mean the "^"?
@ Thor: Something scummy doesn't necessarily have to have any scumvantage, does it? It could just be really stupid and bad play. In this case, I think it's chesskid's overreaction to people over-pushing his rumble actions.
I'm not saying chesskid is a dead cert for scum, but he's certainly the best bet I've got for scum so far during Raw. I just don't see how wanting a pro-town player dead is not anti-town and/or scummy (depending on discrepancies of the definition between the two). Unless there's some horrific aspect to VPB's play which I haven't experienced yet (in which case, please tell me), I see no town motivation for wanting somebody you have a town-read on to be killed, (unless in some scenario where you're in possession of an awesome PR and it's either you or him). Do you?
Also, I would appreciate it if you'd answer my question about using the wiki as a reliable source of information.
@ NC: What would you say is the difference in playstyle between chesskid-scum and chesskid-town?Benmage: First, for the sake of irony. I'm going to illustrate how completely idiotic and hypocritical scumhunter is.-
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Vote Count 1.2
chesskid3 (3) Erratus Apathos, Baby Spice, Hoppster
Gobots (2) Vezokpiraka, Kise
Jasont1989 (1) Sottyrulez
Baby Spice (1) Debonair Danny DiPietro, Furcolow
Trendall (1) Primate
Hoppster (1) Thor665
Nero Cain (1) VP Balter
Not voting (16) Kublai Khan, Nero Cain, Lowell, Jasont1981, Scott Brosius, VasudeVa, Internet Stranger, Gman, chesskid3, Trendall, SnakePlissken, Aurousvox, jediknight, bristep123, Bella, Gobots
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JR : Oh my god! Chesskid just got chokeslammed all the way to hell!
King : And it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy! Let's hope he stays there.
JR: How the heck can you say that King?
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@Hoppster - something scummy *does* neccessarily need a scumvantage because the only way anything is a scumtell is if it's something that is *more* likely to be done by scum than by town. If you just go "lawl, bad play, votevotevote" then all you're doing is admitting you're voting for a bad player.
And I have TERRIBLE news for you. Statistically, bad players are town *just* as much as good players! Shocking, I know, yet provably true.
Also, you keep talking about how it's scummy that he wants VPB killed...but you voted him for saying that while also not voting for VPB. So...why did the scum not vote somebody he wants dead for being town exactly?
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Hoppster: The font of all knowledge, TV TropesI don't know what annoys me more. Bad Harry Potter fan fiction that gets the facts right, or good Harry Potter fan fiction that doesn't.
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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Oh gawds, looked in his wiki at other games he's played.
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Flair Flop to eye poke when he looks away in shame: Erratus Apathos
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Im reading through and all I can say is that all of this is just ugly. UGLY. Its so ugly that I cant make reads on it. Unfortunately I agree with Nero though. Out of the active people, I guess that only one is scum. The rest of them are lurking.ShowElvis_Knits: "IS you are a sexist schmuck, for real"
Guttersnipe: "INTERNET STRANGER: You will never get away with the crap you pulled in this game again in any game I am in, ever"
Jora: "I don't care what you say. I don't care about scumhunting. Just die, alright!"-
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