In the Court of the Gods (Game Over)

[populartajo]

I think Feysalscum has a lot of potential, that is.

Mod, please prod...

In all seriousness there are some rules that need some tailoring, like the prod rule and the vote rule but hey you are the mod

Mod note: I'm happy to talk about those types of things at the end of the game as I strive to improve my moderation with each game, but during the game is not the time to do so.

[Mina]

I think Feysalscum has a lot of potential, that is.

That doesn't answer my question.

You didn't say Feysal had "potential" in that post. You didn't even evaluate the scumminess of {SpyreX, Andrius, Corvuus}. You just framed it as, "Oh, pity that we're soooo close to the deadline and there isn't a big enough wagon for any of those three players to be lynched." Hell, I almost left out the question about Feysal before I posted, because I didn't notice at first that you'd omitted him. I'd thought maybe you'd forgotten him.

Explain, please. Why did you choose the three players you did? Did you make a conscious decision to leave Feysal off the list? Was that a deliberate attempt to manipulate people into voting either DeathRowKitty or Feysal?

Never mind if you suspect him. Did you genuinely believe that Feysal is more

likely

to be lynched today than Spy, Andy, and Corvuus? (Corvuus in particular seems to have some momentum against him.) Or were you being disingenuous?

[populartajo]

I think Feysal is scum and I think she is far scummy than Spyrex, Andrius and Corvuss. Yes I did make a conscious decision to leave Feysal off the list because of all the people on the wagons both DRK and Feysal are the most likely to flip scum for reasons previously given.

Now tell me who is scum and why.

[Equinox]

SpyreX and DRK come to mind immediately, for third maybe Lady Lambdadelta... though she is but one of my null reads. I've still to do that ISO read on her, and others too.

Now or never, guys. Please lynch Feysal.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'll tell you what Equinox. I am willing to place my vote on Feysal for the moment to get a wagon started.

However, I reserve the right to remove it at any time once I get around to ISOing Feysal, k?

This is me helping you put some pressure somewhere, so we can get some reads.

Unvote, Vote: Feysal

[DrippingGoofball]

Gawd... LLD is sooooooooooooooo town. My eyes hurt.

[Fishythefish]

Fishy why didn't you call Mina out when she mentioned that she was sharing her thoughts in the QT about people?

Mina underestimates the value of her posting in our QT. Particularly during her first catchup, when she posted a lot of her half-baked thoughts there.

Hurry up

Same for Fishy. I want your thoughts on your followers, too.

No.

DRK is quite likely scum. He hasn’t really done anything in the game – when he’s voted, it’s been with little reasoning, and he’s never followed up on anything. Calling this “laziness” doesn’t convince me; it’s not like he seems to be lagging behind the game, just that he’s not trying to catch scum.

But LL is much worse. Really, LL is scum:
Old reasons are her lies about the progression of the reads of tmh and herself on Jack, and a disconnect early in the game between her stance on Jack and her criticism of tmh.

Since we had that argument, LL has been backing the tajo wagon without actually getting on it. And now, with scumreads on DRK and tajo, what does LL do? Votes for Feysal. I just can’t see a townie in that situation deciding to go for a wagon she

hasn’t even read the target of

when her first two scumreads have their own perfectly good wagons. It feels like she’s totally forgotten she voiced a scumread on DRK.

Read LL in iso. I can’t see her actions in this game as coming from town. She was happy to concentrate on NS/Jack/TMH for a long time, in a way that doesn’t make sense. Since then, she’s pushed a popular wagon (tajo) without voting for it, voiced an unexplained scumread on another popular wagon (DRK), and finally voted a third player, admitting that she doesn’t actually have a reason for that. She says she's doing that for pressure so she can get some reads. Firstly, saying that nullifies any pressure from the vote. Secondly, if we believe LL she already

has

plenty of reads.

Preview edit:
@DGB: why on earth do you think LL is town? I don't see anything townish about her.

UNVOTE: VOTE: LLD

[Jack]

No, LL is town.

[Benmage]

MOD

Do me a favor, and don't prod me unless I break your time. Is that allowed?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Can you try misrepping me harder Fishy?

"She voted someone and admitted she had no reason for doing it".

How about to apply pressure? To get a fuckig wagon started? To get some kind of discussion going that isn't hitting a brick wall.

You totally ignore all the reasons I places that vote, just to twist it to your agenda.

You are the scum god. I'm convinced.

[Benmage]

The farside thing was nothing than illustrating the absurdity to adhering to every personal prod request.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ben. We get it. You don't like to be prodded.

Now stop complaining about something like that to the mod 10,000 times. Once is enough.

How about, since you have the time, put it to use and tell me who is scum?

[Jack]

Fishy probably is the scum god.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fishy probably is the scum god.

This was determined a few moments ago. Anything else?

[populartajo]

i had a reason to think LL was town but I dont remember, Jack why do you think LL is town?

[Equinox]

Fishythefish, you won't be able to get a wagon going on Lady Lambdadelta. That much I can guarantee you. If you think DeathRowKitty is scum, I don't see a reason for you to not join that bandwagon now but instead try to roll a new one 5 days before deadline.

[populartajo]

good posting

[SpyreX]

I don't get what your putting down here. What's the question?

Welp, this can be dealt with tomorrow then. Farside is now way up on that murderin' list.

Don't be stupid with the prods. No they don't need to be RIGID MY RULES come on now.

I'm ready for this day to end.

DGB, give me a target.

[populartajo]

lets get some competing wagons on both Feysal and DRK scumbags to maximize bussing shenanigans

[populartajo]

spy why are you so quiet in this game?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Fishythefish,

you won't be able to get a wagon going on Lady Lambdadelta. That much I can guarantee you.

If you think DeathRowKitty is scum, I don't see a reason for you to not join that bandwagon now but instead try to roll a new one 5 days before deadline.

FTFY

Also, I thought I was the witch of certainty here :3

[Fishythefish]

Can you try misrepping me harder Fishy?

"She voted someone and admitted she had no reason for doing it".

How about to apply pressure? To get a fuckig wagon started? To get some kind of discussion going that isn't hitting a brick wall.

You totally ignore all the reasons I places that vote, just to twist it to your agenda.

You are the scum god. I'm convinced.

When I say no reason, I mean that you didn't find him scummy.

You have said that DRK (with tajo, tmh) is one of your top scumreads. I don't see how on earth you could want to start a wagon on someone you have no read on, without ever commenting on the DRK wagon or even thinking about voting him. It makes no sense.

[Equinox]

Also, I thought I was the witch of certainty here :3

You're going against the Endless Sorcerer here. Also, this is my territory, for I have claimed it.

[Corvuus]

DGB:
I didn't say DGB-town can't catch Tajo-scum. I said Tajo-town catches DGB-scum. It isn't mutually exclusive. Nor does it take anything into account in terms of DGB/Tajo both being scum. If you think Tajo is scum, then go ahead. I don't care on that issue nor do I care to prove an assertion that I believe DGB-tajo both mutually believe and they were the only audience I actually cared about for that.

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I'm feeling a NS-scum God and I think DTmaster does have a good chance of being scum.

I was considering letting DTmaster live another day since depending on his actual role/gambit, etc. it is determinable but hey, you guys want me to take a stand right? That and he himself has declared that if he is town, then whatever he is doing/planning will help out town regardless of whether he lives or not so i don't see the downside to checking his gambit and pursuing this... especially since DTmaster and DRK scum together is a possibility.

vote DTmaster

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Feel free to discuss this with your followers DGB. I'm in to lynch since at the very least I'll call you on your willingness to vote DTm .
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DRK: I don't think the most important point is whether it was a threat or not but, yeah, it was a threat from one town player to a potentially town or scum player.

NS: My question was more on why did you place your vote on TMH way back when and then just forget about it? Posting in quicktopics/pm, etc.? I'm not feeling inclined to convince you of anything and since your immortal, I guess I'll just wave at you.

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Farside: Daytalk scum can be incredibly useless if scum don't actually use it and talk. I have no inclination to prove daytalking scum is incredibly powerful since if scum aren't already doing it, then there is no reason for me to point out abuses. But I 100% stand by my assertion that daytalk is overpowered and I'll just rely on post-game to prove it. Whether by God-follower daytalk or scum day talk.

We both have fishy as our patron. I'm willing to pass on answers via fishy if you really want it and it would probably help out in other ways too.

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Ok, I'm not used to this large of a group. Writing up a post and basically an entire page appears.
I'm out of time right now. If you have a specific question(s) then ask me again.

Corvuus
p.s. hey fishy! let's chat sometime.

[Fishythefish]

Fishy probably is the scum god.

Reasons?