In the Court of the Gods (Game Over)

[DeathRowKitty]

[SpyreX]

@Spyrex, Andrius: who is scum?

Me=Weird is/was floundering scum. Like I said.
NS, I'd bet by a longshot, is the scum jerkball but that goes without saying.

Out of the usual suspects I'd say Andrius, Zang, tmh in that order. Realistically, Jack either needs to absolutely become off the table or die and tmh's colors will shine through without issue.

Zang's words try to pretend to be content but aren't. That needs to go.

Andy ohh andy would be my bet there though. The two things that give pause are DGB's vouch which HOPEFULLY is under the guise of some backend discussion because it sure isn't from here and the simple fact M=W is that dude by a margin more.

NOW, you'll notice that DRK isn't there. Because that's town. Town fire-fluff but town.

Off the beaten path I'm calling teaparty on Mina.

Not for voting me. But for voting me without even pretending to justify (Hint: that vote is the first time my name is even mentioned). Of course, the fact that she'd be rereading and 'posting' and saw this new and awesome glut of hand-wringing SpyreX is scum guyssssss and wanted to spark the love well.

[Fishythefish]

@LLD: I'm talking about the two quotes in 378 (and related posting, but they summarise it well). Long before you unvoted Jack, let alone stopped actively Fossing him (as in, posting FoS: Jack).

Neither of those two quotes show me lying.

The "lying" thing you are talking about comes in a later post, WELL after I have dropped Jack.

Those quotes both come from a time where I suspected Jack. The second one comes from the fact that I suspected BOTH TMH and Jack.

When I unvoted Jack, it was because TMH became more scummy than Jack.

And eventually Jack became a town read for me.

Do you see the progression? I started suspecting Jack for lying. I then also FoS'd TMH for his actions.

I then saw Jack's gambit, but didn't entirely believe it. However, it made Jack less scummy than TMH. I unvoted, and switched their positions on my list and in my votes.

Then when I observed Jack's play, I came to the conclusion he was most likely town (now that he was no longer doing this gambit shit).

So I no longer FoS Jack, and I am happy with my vote on TMH. I am now moving on to investigating Spy, Mina, Zang and Feysal.

Do you see the logical progression? My opinion gradually changed over time. I dropped twice. Once when I unvoted him, and another time when I stopped suspecting him.

Yes, the "lying" thing comes from a while after that. Can you explain that?

On your TMH/Jack suspicions; my problem comes right at the beginning - when you thought Jack was pretty certain to be lying, but suspected TMH for being tunnelled about lynching Jack. I don't think there's much more to say about that; I find those stances together unlikely.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I just fucking explainedit in that post you quoted! Try reading past the first fucking line.

[DeathRowKitty]

Your vote was random, when there was info that could be used or an actual vote (the Jack debate).

Who should I have been voting based on the Jack debate at that point?

You didn't respond to this.

[DeathRowKitty]

Actually, looking back, that was pre-game and my vote didn't count -_- (I think I thought it did or meant it to, so that's irrelevant). What's interesting though is your first vote:

Opening game RVS Wagon FTW

Vote: Me=Weird

If I should have been voting someone for a substantial reason based on the Jack debate, why do you get to make a "zomg random stage" vote?

[DrippingGoofball]

Mod's note: This post was exactly the same as below without color tags.

[DrippingGoofball]

scum

farside
DRK
Spyrex
Feysal

VOTE: DRK.

Im pretty sure on this, lets lynch him.

in regard to gods, NS is being stupid but feels townish, Fishy is kinda neutral, DGB would be my pick for scumgod.

Farside scum???

Going after DRK?????

And I'm getting a increasing SpyreX town vibe, and Feysal has got to be neutral at best.

NS is townish? I bet Fishy is your scumgod, that's why you have him at neutral. And I'm scum over what ought to be a town tell?

DIE

VOTE: populartajo

[farside22]

I'm here I'm here.

*Insert I've-been-unusually-busy-this-weekend that no one cares to know about, so yeah*

I meant to read this weekend; it hasn't happened. I WILL catch up.

So you posting around MS for the weekend but not posting here is too ubber busy to come and read this game too?

From what I can tell, SpyreX is having some real life things and his activity is diminished in all of his games. Saying, "you're scum, because you'd be playing harder as town" doesn't seem exactly fair. Of course, this doesn't preclude him from being scum, but at least personally I like the little bit I've seen of him in thread.

Why do you know only about SpreX? Did you check on other lurkers in the game who are not posting as much as well?

wtf is farside's 102? its the most scummy omgus ive seen in a while.

How is it the scummiest OMGUS? Explain what part of it looked scummy to you in more and vibrate terms.
Besides this ^ What makes me scum in your view?
Why is Feysal on your scum list?
Why is Andrius and CMAR town in your view?

DRK: Why did it take someone to vote for you to come back and make comments on the game?

The only point I will say is that tajo caused DRK to come back to this game and talk, when he's been very quiet, also I think the LOL is not a scum tell. Saying oh my god he laughed he's scum and a player doesn't react or say something or they do is a weak scum tell in my view, but DRK's reaction to be called out raises DRK to hmmmm status

[farside22]

unvote:
vote: Andrius

I like this vote better right now. I don't like people making excuses and lying about things like RL when they clearly are here on MS and no it's not just doing mod duties.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah but Andrius is town. He's not today's lynch.

And tajo is scum.

[Jack]

unvote, vote:Andrius

We can lynch drk tomorrow.

I'm going to keep pretending these 2 person wagons are major wagons. WHY ARE THERE NO WAGONS THIS GAME.

[farside22]

Yeah but Andrius is town. He's not today's lynch.

And tajo is scum.

Why is Andrius town in your view?

[DrippingGoofball]

Why is Andrius town in your view?

He is town. I vouch for this.

[Jack]

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10 TO LYNCH

TOP VOTE GETTER HAS: 3 VOTES

ANDRIUS BANDWAGON STARTS WITH THIS VOTE:

[populartajo]

@DRK: Andrius said you were scum in page 1. You excused yourself instead of asking why or ignoring it. Thats the scumtell.
Call me Tajo.

You can keep saying this, but it would be nice if you actually explained it.

Why

do you consider the townie reaction to be asking or ignoring? For bonus points, compare it to my reaction to your accusation here. The mindsets are pretty close together..

When someone accuses you of being scum on page 1, the reaction Id expect is either ask why, (because its illogical to call someone scum in page 1) or to ignore it (basically for the same reason).

The scum reaction is to overreact to the attack, and thats exactly what you did. You excused yourself from what seemed to be an illogical RVS attack in page 1. (overdefensive scumtell).

Bonus points: Im attacking you in page 18, people defending from attacks are null. Andrius RVS attacked you in page 1, people defending from RVS attacks are scum.

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think about it, after all that had been said, this was the best vote you could come up with?

You know what's funny about this? Me=Weird's reason for voting LL looks very much to me like a random reason, yet you're accusing me of being scummy for casting a random vote in the next post. I dun get it.

Me=Weird post was his first post of the game, Im pretty sure he hadnt even read all the game before doing that. Instead you had some posts before your "random" vote and you had already done some analysis regarding the jack-NS scumfuck. I dont understand why you felt the need to random vote again.

[DrippingGoofball]

Jack, you are scum, or you are dense. Pick one. Which is it?

[populartajo]

scum

farside
DRK
Spyrex
Feysal

VOTE: DRK.

Im pretty sure on this, lets lynch him.

in regard to gods, NS is being stupid but feels townish, Fishy is kinda neutral, DGB would be my pick for scumgod.

Farside scum???

Going after DRK?????

And I'm getting a increasing SpyreX town vibe, and Feysal has got to be neutral at best.

NS is townish? I bet Fishy is your scumgod, that's why you have him at neutral. And I'm scum over what ought to be a town tell?

DIE

VOTE: populartajo

Explain CLEARLY why farside is town, why DRK is town and why Spyrex is town. Ill give you Feysal neutral so that you dont take that long to answer this.

[populartajo]

Jack, you are scum, or you are dense. Pick one. Which is it?

Jack is OBVTOWN dont even go there, answer my questions plz pretty lady

[DrippingGoofball]

Tajo, I suspect you are bus'ing DRK.

[populartajo]

wtf is farside's 102? its the most scummy omgus ive seen in a while.

How is it the scummiest OMGUS? Explain what part of it looked scummy to you in more and vibrate terms.

It was the fact that you hadnt said a word about Jack and then when he attacked you, you came up with reasons that could have been given in your serious post of the game.

Besides this ^ What makes me scum in your view?

basically that and the fact that you seem to attack everyone without trying to look who could be town

Why is Feysal on your scum list?

too many words to say something

Why is Andrius and CMAR town in your view? CMAR replaced Me=Weird which is an obv reckless town read. Andrius RVS was very relaxed but if he is avoiding the game then he is def losing town status.

[Fishythefish]

@LLD: I don't intend to argue the point further. If you have addressed my concerns about your misreps (ie. the second half of my iso 11), I am being rather more blind than usual, but either way this argument isn't doing any good.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Andrius

[populartajo]

Tajo, I suspect you are bus'ing DRK.

its going to be a pain in the ass if you are the scum god, dgb, please be as town as possible and think a little if you are town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Explain CLEARLY why farside is town

I can read farside like a book.

why DRK is townp

You're both scum.

and why Spyrex is town.

We share a QT.

====================

Also. May I remind you that

we

share a QT where you are rather non-participating at all, except to say that you "suspect me?" No one else in the mason group is as cagey as you are.

So I think you're scum. And the fact that I'm willing to go after someone in my own mason group should tell you a thing or two about how fired up I am about this.

And I recall Convict's Revenge where I pegged you as scum from the get go, and you were. I can read you like a book, just like farside.

[populartajo]

wait a second

Just responding to something quickly-like.

Where did you get the idea this would happen?

The 4 VT thing for 1 BP RoleCop came from Lord of the Rings Mafia. They lynched the Mordor Mafia's Bulletproof RoleCop D1, but lost 3 VTs and a Jailkeeper that night (forgot the JK the first time). So it was a tradeoff.

I was just insisting that losing ONE townie to confirm two Gods as town and one as scum is DEFINITELY worth the tradeoff.

Hell, I'd volunteer to get lynched if that was guaranteed.

Why is Andrius assuming Jack is town here?