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bv310
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February 17th - 2:00 AM EST
1. What does it matter if scum know whether their seen as town or not? If everyone sees them as town their bound to coast/get careless/play differently. Looking for unnatural changes in behavior is what scumhunting is ALL ABOUT.PranaDevil wrote:For someone who's been here a year, you're dense as fuck.Fate wrote: HOW does it help scum? It doesn't. It helps town AND let's me use my role effectively to catch multiple scum.
How does it help scum? Let me list some ways:
Scum know exactly how well they're blending in (while otherwise they are only guessing based on people's comments. If I only have a slight read on someone I wont necessarily call them out on it, scum would be thinking they're playing well, and slip further because of it. If I announced I felt they were likely scum, they would pull themselves in). So that's point one.
Scum would then also know exactly who the most obv town players are. If this works out to being one of them, then they know exactly who to keep looking extremely pro-town out of their group if there's a need to bus. Point two.
If there's a couple of people causing trouble for scum, but aren't viewed as that "obv town" could also be killed by scum while knowing there's almost no chance of a doc protect (and if it appears there is, then they'll have a nice small list of who likely protected them. Namely those who felt they were town). So there's a third point.
Anyone who shows up as town (and as far as scum are concerned, IS town (they wont know if it's town or opposing scum) will be ignored regarding night kills because it's almost guarenteed the doc would protect them. Meaning scum can look elsewhere and get a free kill in. Without the lists the scum might not be entirely sure, and would target the player, meaning scum lose a kill. Point four.
That's merely off the top of my head. Those are some fucking important things for scum to know, I see absolutely fuck all that would help town though, beyond your "but my wole wud be gud!" Which is bullshit in the first place.
The fact I'm having to fucking TEACH YOU THIS FATE is fucking ridiculous. You're going to play the fucking "dur, I don't know how it's anti-town to reveal full lists, dur!" card despite being here longer than me (albiet only be a week), and think you wont get called on it? Fuck that shit. Either you're a complete plank who needs to go relearn the basics, or you know full well how it's anti-town and are pretending to be a dumb fuck and were hoping you wouldn't get called on it.
You're scum who is attempting to pull the wool over the town's eyes by bullshitting about a role.
I'm glad you agree with me but your still scum.bv310 wrote:QFT. I'm not going to post a list that, at best, does absolutely nothing. Fate, even if your role does work the way you said, by claiming that you're going to be using that role tonight, you're going to be dead by tomorrow. Why would we bother to give the scum something to work off of for ABSOLUTELY NO net gain?Nero Cain wrote:
I think this game would be more bearable without Fate.
LOOK @ who cant read.Fate wrote: I don't suppose you'd know anything about being protown though Nero Moron
1 - 4. All rubbish arguments against what is perfectly logical and sound issues with your "plan". But then, at this stage you're arguing it for the sake of arguing it, because to suddenly back down would be evidence that you're scum.Fate wrote:5. I've already told you how it will help town. You are refusing baselessly. If I pull any shenanigans I will be lynched immediately, but I've already PROMISED
all will be made clear after I claim, but this claim comes AFTER all the lists.
6. Attacking my experience is laughable, you're not teaching me anything. You're just arguing mafia theory and you're going to lose, besides the fact that in this game in PARTICULAR with MY ROLE that only I KNOW, my plan is the most pro-town.
7. Check-mate. Make a list or get lynched.
You realize when you play with Vez, having him be daykill, him claiming VT, is all blah. He's not a player that you want to see in the end game. If a person claims VT, oh well, yes its a townie dead, but it wasn't a power role.Battousai wrote:Fate: I don't know what you want... I gave you a scum list. I have no town reads so everyone goes in the scum list (but I point out who I find actually scummy and not really null).
PranaDevil- Ok, you refuse to post your list. Why not try scumhunting instead of fighting Fate with mafia theory and logic. If Fate is scum, then he should have a scumpartner. Why not try and find him/her?
Also I'm noticing people posting, but ignoring what I brought up about Vezok. This question is to everyone who hasn't answered (not Fate/Prana/MoI). Why did you ignore Vezok's claim of VT and MoI's fake daykill?
You're demanding information that people may not be able to fully have yet. If everyone already knew who scum are this early in D2, why do scum win so often?Fate wrote:You have no town reads.
You are a scummcScumbag, thats for sure.
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Take a shot, do your best. Thats ALL IM ASKING.Riceballtail wrote:You're demanding information that people may not be able to fully have yet. If everyone already knew who scum are this early in D2, why do scum win so often?Fate wrote:You have no town reads.
You are a scummcScumbag, thats for sure.