In the Court of the Gods (Game Over)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

HEY WAIT

Shouldn't the scumgod know his mortal scumpals' identity? Does that change anything?

How could Jack trick NS to 'fess scum??? Unless NS was very careless and not paying attention?

NS knew his identity (as witnessed by NS being the one to initiate contact with Jack), but not his role.

According to what NS has told me, Jack responded with a two word claim of his role, but nothing else.

Jack has told us, that he responded with a scum claim, to which NS replied with a scum claim of his own.

I don't see the complication here. Nothing is out of place.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: Beyond the fact that one of Jack or NS must be lying of course.

[Jack]

It was a three word claim. MORE LIES FROM NS.

Lady you really not see any problems there?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't see the complication, no.

Please spell it out for me, if you think there is something I'm missing.

[DrippingGoofball]

According to what NS has told me, Jack responded with a two word claim of his role, but nothing else.

Why would he claim his role to NS right away??????????????????

[Lady Lambdadelta]

DGB, NS asked.

I can't speak for Jack's logical reasoning.

And from what I have heard of what Jack claimed (and yes NS told me what he claimed) it sounds kinda fake to me anyway.

[Jack]

I don't see the complication, no.

Please spell it out for me, if you think there is something I'm missing.

Worst case scenario, he turns up town, and we know which of the 3 gods is scum.

In your worst case scenario, I'm town and got NS-the-scum-god to confess to me by pretending to be scum. But the scum god would know I wasn't scum. So me being town says nothing about NS.

[themanhimself]

HEY WAIT

Shouldn't the scumgod know his mortal scumpals' identity? Does that change anything?

How could Jack trick NS to 'fess scum??? Unless NS was very careless and not paying attention?

This is just more evidence that Jack is lying. One of them is scum, if it's NS then he would already know Jack was town and would never claim scum. If it's jack then I guess he assumed we wouldn't know that the scum know who the evil god is and vice versa so he could get away with it. The bottom line is that one of them is lying and Jack has better odds of being that liar. If we're wrong then we know who the scum god is which is totally worth it because we can get reads from him.
VOTE: Jack

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I don't see the complication, no.

Please spell it out for me, if you think there is something I'm missing.

Worst case scenario, he turns up town, and we know which of the 3 gods is scum.

In your worst case scenario, I'm town and got NS-the-scum-god to confess to me by pretending to be scum. But the scum god would know I wasn't scum. So me being town says nothing about NS.

Erg. That's not wrong...

Can you tell me this at least: Did you claim scum to NS?

[DrippingGoofball]

Let's see.

NS: Hullow Jack, enjoy this PM.

Jack: I'm scum

OPTION 1:

NS: You're lying, you're not listed in my scum role PM.

OPTION 2:

NS: Great, we'll lynch you today.

OPTION 3:

NS: Me too! And my brain leaks out of my ears at night! Does yours?

[themanhimself]

But the scum god would know I wasn't scum.

Then why on earth would he claim to you like you said he did?

[Jack]

DGB, NS asked.

I can't speak for Jack's logical reasoning.

And from what I have heard of what Jack claimed (and yes NS told me what he claimed) it sounds kinda fake to me anyway.

But I made a 3 word claim and you just said he made a two word claim.

And that was my only pm to him.

HEY WAIT

Shouldn't the scumgod know his mortal scumpals' identity? Does that change anything?

How could Jack trick NS to 'fess scum??? Unless NS was very careless and not paying attention?

This is just more evidence that Jack is lying. One of them is scum, if it's NS then he would already know Jack was town and would never claim scum. If it's jack then I guess he assumed we wouldn't know that the scum know who the evil god is and vice versa so he could get away with it. The bottom line is that one of them is lying and Jack has better odds of being that liar. If we're wrong then we know who the scum god is which is totally worth it because we can get reads from him.
VOTE: Jack

GOOD GOD

Then why on earth would he claim to you like you said he did?

Amazing isn't it, anyway I really think you ought to be lynching NS tmh.

[themanhimself]

Yeah, that's logical

[Jack]

Yeah, that's logical

DO IT THEN

I WANT TO SEE YOUR VOTE

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ok, then the contradiction still stands.

You claim that you DID NOT claim scum to him.

He claims you did.

So that's an angle we can pursue.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If we boil this down, and simplify everything, the facts still say that one of NS and Jack is lying.

So it's logical to lynch the one we CAN lynch, and garner knowledge this way, correct?

[zoraster]

Day 1 Vote Count

Andrius ( 1 ) Jack,
Brokenscraps ( 0 )
hitogoroshi ( 0 )
me=weird ( 4 ) SpyreX,

Fishythefish,

Zang, farside22,
SpyreX ( 0 )
Equinox ( 0 )
farside22 ( 1 ) Mina,
Feysal ( 0 )
Mina ( 0 )
themanhimself ( 0 )
Benmage ( 0 )
DeathRowKitty ( 0 )
Jack ( 5 ) Equinox, Lady Lambdadelta, hitogoroshi, Andrius, themanhimself,
Lady Lambdadelta ( 0 )
Zang ( 0 )
Not Voting ( 7 ) Brokenscraps, me=weird, Feysal, Benmage, DeathRowKitty,

DrippingGoofball,

Nobody Special,

Total Votes ( 18 )

Deadline: February 14th at 23:00 EDT
With 18 able to vote, 10 needed to lynch.

[Jack]

He claims you did.

So that's an angle we can pursue.

No he doesn't.

If we boil this down, and simplify everything, the facts still say that one of NS and Jack is lying.

So it's logical to lynch the one we CAN lynch, and garner knowledge this way, correct?

You really believe this

Isn't "IF WE SIMPLIFY EVERYTHING" a warning sign to you?

But at least your more townie now.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think brokenscraps is scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

I think brokenscraps is scum.

[themanhimself]

Pretty much the only thing we can do today is lynch Jack. I don't see anyway to move forward without resolving this glaring inconsistency and since we can't lynch NS we pretty much have to lynch Jack. Besides that, the way I'm seeing the situation, it's a lot more likely that Jack is the one lying, I can see motivation and a means for that at least where I can't with NS.

[DrippingGoofball]

Brokenscraps seems to be very busy site-wide... but as far as this game is concerned, he's probably spending all his energy discussing strategy in the scum QT. Clearly, he's taking his LURKING ORDERS very seriously.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Pretty much the only thing we can do today is lynch Jack

. I don't see anyway to move forward without resolving this glaring inconsistency and since we can't lynch NS we pretty much have to lynch Jack. Besides that, the way I'm seeing the situation, it's a lot more likely that Jack is the one lying, I can see motivation and a means for that at least where I can't with NS.

No.

FoS: TMH

[DrippingGoofball]

Has anyone caught a glimpse of:

Feysal
Benmage

They are making themselves scarce.

[DrippingGoofball]

Pretty much the only thing we can do today is lynch Jack. I don't see anyway to move forward without resolving this glaring inconsistency and since we can't lynch NS we pretty much have to lynch Jack. Besides that, the way I'm seeing the situation, it's a lot more likely that Jack is the one lying, I can see motivation and a means for that at least where I can't with NS.

What's the lie, exactly? And the motivation? Be specific.