Right, work got busy rather than dying off on Thursday, thus why I'm posting now and not back then. So I'm re-reading through to catch up and see if I've missed anything.
Iecerint wrote:Like an accidental one, or someone slipped? I think Fate already has 4 votes or something, for that matter.
I did it because I had a broken breadcrumb, but now I have fixed it into an even stronger breadcrumb.
This unnerved me at the time, but wanted to see more from Iec as I remember he made a pig's ear of day 1 in SE1. But why would you even announce that you've left a breadcrumb until the point you need to reveal as much? Either terrible town play or scum hoping to convince people they're town.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:Hmmm ... Fate so casually ignores a budding Vezok wagon ....
Interesting ...
This is why I voted MoI, which I'd have figured was obvious. Fate's voting MoI and MoI's comment on it boils down to "hey, look over there! PL Vezok!"
MagnaofIllusion wrote:Prana wrote:Unvote
vote:MagnaofIllusion
Well that was easy.
It is indeed. I almost can’t believe you jumped onto a horrible wagon so obviously.
Almost
UNVOTE: Vezok
VOTE: Prana
Most obvious OMGUS vote I've ever seen.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:DTMaster wrote:You better have a meta argument to back up your recent claim. What's so interesting about Fate ignoring Vezok (other then I would have preferred the day kill on that man)?
Read Fate’s post game series of rants in the recently ended
Objection Mafia Redux.
However, annoyingly, this (and DTM's subsequent pulling out the important posts) does indeed make me wonder why Fate wouldn't want to get rid of Vezok so quickly. Which in turn does remove a lot of my suspicion of MoI, as I could understand MoI just trying to say "hey look over there!" as scum. But by the same token if MoI does (as has been shown) know that Fate would normally push a PL of Vezok, the fact he hasn't done so is going to stand out.
It leaves me confused though, as a scum pairing of Fate/Vezok would normally still have Fate voting Vezok for PL reasons and then find someone else that he could turn his attention to. Which leads me to believe that there isn't a Fate/Vezok connection, as it's almost too glaringly obvious for Fate to balls up like that if they were buddies.
So, that being said... perhaps they're not buddies, Vezok is town, and Fate doesn't want anything to come back on him if there is a PL on Vezok day 1 that he pushed for? Plausible.
DTMaster wrote:I will list: Disgaea Mafia 1, Linked Role Mafia Part 2 and Part 1, Square Enix Mafia 1, Disgaea Mafia 2, and Reboot Mafia. All of these are games we were in together. None of them were games where the avatar influences you. All of these games gives you the ability to attack me/judge me/defend me/ make a read on me.
None of these avatar shenanigans, all hard earn time and blood spent in these games. Ice should be shot as well.
Break time, will comment on the Prana case after
I like this too. In fact it makes me believe Iec is more likely using the lack of an avatar stuff at that point to merely comment in the game without actually commenting "on" the game. If you understand me. I'd be happy seeing Iec lynched at this point.
DTMaster wrote:2. I wouldn't consider 4 votes a wagon. Fate and Ice together aren't quad voters pulling out all the stops man. I find it odd that you
focus on Prana who attacked you
rather then look at the Fate wagon likewise.
Not quoting the whole thing to avoid a longer wall, but it's post #72 (Not in ISO).
This actually makes me feel better about my MoI vote again, and explained things better than I ever could.
Bunnylover wrote:@DTM: MoI's argument on Fate is strange. The more I think about it, the more I'm entitled to believe about it. I mean, normally Fate should have come in here with his caps lock on and yelling something like, "OMFG VEZO IS IN THIS DAMN FREAKING GAME, LYNCHING THIS DAMN BASTARD TO HELL!". I'm more then sure the majority of the people can agree with me on this.
Prana vote was just bad. That was easy? Like really. Its obvious bandwagoning.
Other then what MoI pointed out, no, not yet.
@RBT: When I saw your post, I just lol'd.
Yeah, not liking Bunny as this goes on.
Previously already dived on me for voting MoI, and asked a question of me, which should have been directed at MoI (I wasn't the one who went "don't vote me, look over there!" after all). This feels like a way of piggybacking on MoI's Fate argument, then claims my vote was bad (but conveniently ignores DTM's vote on MoI).
Zodiark13 wrote:Umm..... You do realise, Fate, that you just claimed a major villian in a
SQUARE ENIX GAME
in [/b]SQUARE ENIX MAFIA[/b]?
He did? Oh good, being that it's day 1 of course it makes no bloody difference. Which makes me wonder if you are scum trying to find an excuse to vote someone.
Kdub wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Bunnylover
No mention in post 49 of Prana's vote, now he's saying it looks like obvious bandwagoning only after Magna points it out.
Nor any mention in post 62 after Magna has pointed it out, instead Bunny waited until later to even comment on it, and then did so with a terrible question too.
Kdub wrote:The DTM-avatar discussion seems like a pointless distraction, so I'm just going to ignore it.
Why? It could be a "pointless distraction" by a scum, deliberately putting a pointless distraction out there. In which case it shouldn't be ignored.
Iecerint wrote:Unvote; Vote: Chrono
Fate may be joking; I'm not sure. I was scum with him in SE2, so I know he knew that scum had gotten fakeclaims in earlier SE games. If they were randomly dropped here and Fate didn't mess with pre-game stuff, I could see him being confused. Seems like a pretty severe error for Fate to make, though.
Chrono's response does not make sense with what Fate just did, though. Fate's response is either uncharacteristic acceptance s/p being scum or joking along s/p being town. Looks like Cassandra points or saving throw, idc which.
This post makes zero sense.
Chrono knows Fate's style, so it's obvious that Chrono should also know that Fate posting a picture from a Wiki doesn't mean a damned thing. Which makes his post perfectly fine.
The fact you are saying Fate's either being uncharacteristic in accepting it, or joking, means you should also know Fate is joking... meaning you are deliberately voting Chrono for sweet eff all reason suddenly.
Ergo, this along with earlier stuff means Iec = Scum.
Chronopie wrote:I was just pointing out that Zodiark voted Fate on a flimsy reason. And now you're doing the same thing.
Zodiark/Iecerint scumteam?
I would be in agreement with this. With the addition of MoI and Bunny
Bunnylover wrote:@Kdub: I didn't ignore it. I'm just not confident. I constantly question myself if my thinking process is right or wrong. So when I saw MoI post, my mind was ease since I knew that I wasn't the only one thinking the same thing.
You'll notice in my play that I don't become bold with my post until I am frustrated or aggravated.
That would be the post you read, posted after, and then only voted later on would it?
Lynch All Liars?
Fate wrote:CHRONO MAKING SENSE=THIS GAME DOESNT MAKE SENSE.
As long as he's not in charge of the god damned town PR's this game we'll be fine... No you are NOT living that game down Chrono.
Starbuck wrote:Right now, it all seems like a bunch of banter. The only thing that sticks out for me is how quiet bv is. He's normally quiet when he's scum.
Banter? There's been a lot more said than what I've quoted above, and that should be more than enough to get more than "bv is quiet" from you.
MagnaofIllusion wrote:Prana obviously needs more votes to properly ‘motivate’ him to play. Let’s get on that people.
Or I could have just been, y'know... busy. But hey, let's not let that stop a scum trying to force a lynch.
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TL:DR
Scums:
MoI
Bunny
Zodiark
Iec
Starbuck
If there's two seperate teams (which I suspect) they look like this:
Team 1:
MoI
Bunny
Team 2:
Zodiark
Iec
Could be either:
Starbuck.
And seeing as the Zodiark wagon is a go-go...
unvote
vote: Zodiark
If scum also feel like hitting opposing scum tonight, please feel free to use the above to do so. It would be much appreciated.