Feysal's right in that there aren't really DIRECT links from him to TBM- TBM did a pretty decent job of staying alive while giving absolutely no information to help whatsoever.
The only real connections between them are similar behaviors, which aren't going to be brought up til' near the end of this.
This was the very first thing that made my scumdar start twitching about Feysal-
Feysal wrote:Damn, had we played this smarter, we would stand a far better chance of evading death from scum actions.
If it was not clear yet, there must be
no more unauthorized shooting!
The first part is pretty simple- It's bitching about shit that we can't do anything about, trying to fake a reaction to look town that's both useless and trying to comment on how poorly other people are playing instead of actually scumhunting.
The second part is a good idea to be sure, but there was absolutely nothing there to back it up- no threats of damaging or killing people who don't get in line, nothing stating who's on watch because of their dumb/scummy actions, and no accountability himself for allowing poor decisions to occur all around him.
This is also when I noticed that he had absolutely jackshit in reads, except the arguing for Plum-town with essentially nothing behind it.
When asked for initial reads all he could come up with was CKD-scum but I don't personally find that particularly scummy given the early game-state.
The Plum stuff in particular looked bad to me after Plum's flip, then was confusing as hell, but I think I have it figured out. Although having TBM as scum would make this more likely (just because I don't think they would talk a whole lot about it so Feys would probably go on his own thoughts), it isn't really crucial to the case.
Plum really didn't have much of a reason to be town aside from the cloak and the other scummy/not scummy people connected to her, and the defense of her from Feysal looks a LOT like scum trying to get credit for a town flip. However, if Feysal knew his scumteam hadn't done it why risk trying to defend someone that could be a SK or (from a beginning of the game standpoint, it's still dumb now) on a different scumteam?
Ze answer:He thought Plum COULDN'T be on an alternate scumteam, and that one of inhims/VV was and did the shot instead. A large part of his argument for Plum-town was that people with special abilities wouldn't be scum. I still think a 9-2-1-1 setup would make a lot of sense here, and even a 9-2-1 would work if Vi thought that the lack of info roles and general chaos would warrant a smaller scumteam. If Feysal only had one partner I can very easily see him thinking that there's an alternate scumteam in a twelve man game (especially with an info role given by his demo PM)
But he cleared Plum from being on the (THEORETICAL) other scumteam because both of his members had a Gamma Pulse, and if one member was without it losing the first would absolutely CRIPPLE the scumteam as a whole, even with a cloaked member.
There's a few more things but they're either dependant on TBM's flip or similar to the first scummy statement I pointed out-
Feysal wrote:So, CKD was town. Damn him. If he had not overreacted, twice, and attacked chesskid3 and Plum without authorization, he could still be alive.
so I'll save that for tommorrow.
The last part of THIS post is the similar behaviors between TBM and Feys-
TheButtonmen wrote:To be clear I'm not saying my way or the highway; whatever the majority decided on I'm willing to abide by as that's the exact thing I want to avoid.
However I agree with the waiting for others to check in portion.
^ The same condemnation of semi-random attacks with no acceptance of responsibility for making it happen
TBM wrote:In regards to the explosion I'm currently not on cool down as evidenced by;
PlasmaWhip(VP, 0 damage)
More to come once I'm done rereading.
And the same trying to pseudo-clear themselves from the scumsplosion in the northwest quadrant.
However, there is a part 2 of this, Just for Feysal- The current part is all about day play and why I think he's scum based on his posts.
The next one is suited much more for his style though- It's all about why I think either he's scum solely on game mechanics :3
