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we're not keeping the doc alive in hopes of a block, that is gravy. We're keeping the doc alive, because the cop is still hidden, and as long as the doc is alive, the cop is guaranteed an extra night if/when he comes out.Bacde wrote:But as already stated, since the doc isn't protecting anyone, the chances of choosing correctly and protecting against a kill is minimal.:coo:
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BecauseChangling bob wrote:
I find it interesting that this agrees with your point of not killing either of us to keep the real doc alive, and yet you still have to bring it up.BabyJesus wrote:Interesting that changling bob is voting me, instead of the other claimed doc....Idon't know which of you are lying.YOUsupposedly do. It is interesting that you not voting Tyfo is keeping the real doc alive....
I'm still not voting you, as I think Blackberry is the best lynch today. Just making a comment.:coo:
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It neither helps nor hinders my position to vote for Tyfo. I know he's lying, and haven't really got any evidence to back this up to convince anyone else with. Seeing as there isn't really a big 'me or him' thing going on, I'm going to put my vote where I think it will be the most use.
On that note, I'm going to step back from myself now and say this:
Do you have any other evidence towards a blackberry lynch? Noting that blackberry hasn't replied to your accusation in 401, does anyone have any pressing reasons that we shouldn't lynch him?
I will probably get time to go through this thread properly again in the next few days, and will post any further thoughts then.
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There's no way that scum's going to kill one of the two of them tonight, and then we're left in the same boat tomorrow. If "Why today?" is such an important question, then consider also "Why tomorrow?" or "Why the day after that?" Our numbersdecreaseas the game goes on, meaning we won't always have the luxury of being able to be okay with sacrificing a townie to get a doc. On top of this, there are several small factors which contribute to making the "Keep the doc alive to save the cop" plan...first, this totally neglects the existence of a back-up doc. Second, as the game goes on, the usefulness of a cop's early investigations decrease, as som eof the townies will be dead by the time he reveals. This is further exaggerated by the fact that early investigations will most likely be town...if a cop hasn't revealed by day 2, he probably hasn't pegged two scum (or is unsure of his sanity, which is another issue).
I'm not saying that lynching a claimed doc is guaranteeing us a scum (in fact, I think I'm the only one who seems to have expressed the possibility, however small, that they might both be telling the truth). But I just don't see how lynching Blackberry could be a better play than lynching someone with a 50/50 shot of being mafia. In fact, I think Tyfo's significantly more likely to be scum since CB claimed afterwards. So can someone explain to me how we're all so sure that blackberry is scum (say, better than a 50/50 shot)?
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Skimmer, because the cop is still alive. You really think they're going to let the doc live if/when the cop comes out? If the cop is dead, then the power of the doc is drastically reduced. Right now though, keeping him alive guarantees us an extra night for the cop while the doc lives.mathcam wrote:There's no way that scum's going to kill one of the two of them tonight, and then we're left in the same boat tomorrow. If "Why today?" is such an important question, then consider also "Why tomorrow?" or "Why the day after that?"
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Skimmer?
No, I don't think they'd keep the doc alive. The question is whether or not it's worth letting a mafia stay alive, and risk running out of time to lynch them all, to let the cop stay alive an extra day. This may seem obvious at first, but I assure you it's not. The cop may die independently before then, in which case we've just left the mafia alive for absolutely no gain. The cop's sanity may not be known, meaning we have even more wrong lynches before we get to an actual scum. There may be a back-up doc that can save the day instead. There may be a godfather, limiting the usefulness of the cop even further. I could go on.
If we believe that they can't both be docs, we have a guaranteed shot at hitting scum within the next two days. We'll still have the cop info when he comes out. This is better than anything that anyone else has offered.
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Yes, you're a skimmer. We lynched the godfather D1. It's now D2. I think we can afford to give the "docs" a day and see what happens.mathcam wrote:Skimmer?
No, I don't think they'd keep the doc alive. The question is whether or not it's worth letting a mafia stay alive, and risk running out of time to lynch them all, to let the cop stay alive an extra day. This may seem obvious at first, but I assure you it's not. The cop may die independently before then, in which case we've just left the mafia alive for absolutely no gain. The cop's sanity may not be known, meaning we have even more wrong lynches before we get to an actual scum. There may be a back-up doc that can save the day instead.There may be a godfather, limiting the usefulness of the cop even further. I could go on.
If we believe that they can't both be docs, we have a guaranteed shot at hitting scum within the next two days. We'll still have the cop info when he comes out. This is better than anything that anyone else has offered.
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certainly, next game it certainly could be viable to take our shot at one of the claimed docs. I simply think TODAY, day two, having lynched the godfather D1 and a hidden cop, the best play is to let it go for now and see what happens. Whicher one of them is scum isn;t going anywhere.mathcam wrote:Okay, fair point. That doesn't say anything about the other collection of caveats I posted, though. Or do you have replies to any of those?
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Ha-herm...(in fact, I think I'm the only one who seems to have expressed the possibility, however small, that they might both be telling the truth).
As for the game at hand, i'm honestly stumped. What is berry's wagon based off again? His suggestion for the cop to come out combined with his refusal to lynch narn day 1?[size=75][i]No, Im a rebel! You cant bully me into doing things I dont want to![/i] -VisMaior [/size]-
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yes. although I am more concerned with who didn't want to lynch narninian.shelper wrote:
Ha-herm...(in fact, I think I'm the only one who seems to have expressed the possibility, however small, that they might both be telling the truth).
As for the game at hand, i'm honestly stumped. What is berry's wagon based off again? His suggestion for the cop to come out combined with his refusal to lynch narn day 1?:coo:
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That's five, if I'm not mistaken. Time to claim. Blackberry, are you a doc too?
And I agree with DP, the cop shouldn't waste a night-action on one of the claimed docs. I'd recommend one of those who have not voted on Narninian, which leaves... me (given BB is lynched). I'm fine with that. Make your choice.
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