Newbie 1040 ~ Murder in Newbville! ~ Game Over

[KittyMo]

Oh geez I forgot to officially announce DBE replaced in. She is put in the above vote count accordingly.

Prodding Flameaxe now!!

[DarlaBlueEyes]

Dear god there are so many replacements it's so difficult to keep thoughts straight, lol. Please allow me a little bit longer to get notes up. I have to go out for a bit but will have something by tonight!

[LordChronos]

Welcome DBE!

[DarlaBlueEyes]

Thanks....reading from phone and holy shit this game is just chaotic. I think it's going to take several read throughs to get any kind of bearings at all.

[Flameaxe]

Mod:

Replace me.

Someone else who needs to /confirm

Korlash

will replace Flameaxe due to a strange error. Sorry Korlash! -- KittyMo

[Korlash]

Someone elseKorlash will replace Flameaxe due to a strange error. Sorry Korlash! -- KittyMo

I still reserve my right to say hi and BS about reading the thread eventually!

... *cries* You all would have loved me... Ok good luck everybody... Those 4 seconds were real fun!

I still love you -- KittyMo

[mikemike778]

christ ... surely a new replacement record, welcome new guys

[bvoigt]

I'm still replacing Flameaxe, right? If so, hi everyone!

bvoigt replaces Flameaxe. -- Kitty.

[KittyMo]

Vote Count 21

[L-2] DarlaBlueEyes - (Uite, LordChronos)

[L-2] Kishime - (bvoigt, AzBlueM)
[L-3] mikemike778 - (Kishime)
[L-3] bvoigt - (DarlaBlueEyes)

[1] Not Voting - (mikemike778)

With

7

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Saturday, January 29, 2011 at 9:00:00 PM (GMT-8)

I changed one of the rules in the ruleset -- I now have dark red reserved; blue is free for your use. Thanks for your cooperation!

[AzBlueM]

Welcome DBE and bvoigt, you are reps 8 and 9 respectively.

Kishi, I messed up one thing and realized it (and the analysis was also in the next post), are you really going to say that anything after that isn't valid because I messed up one thing before? Also, I can see what your attempting to imply there but, what part isn't explained? (Snarky note about reading: I said personally, not personality)

[Uite]

@Kishime:

You apparently glossed over this whole post. It explains pretty much everything you're bringing against me. Pretty ironic, since you're accusing AzBlueM of doing the same.

?

I am well aware of that post and it doesn't explain anything. It just repeats what you already said.

Really? I really did address the points you made after it. Let me show you:

@Uite

What connection are you seeing between Kish/RC other than general unhelpfulness?

No connections per se, it's more that they're my top two scumreads, and I see pretty much everyone else as town, which means they have to be scum together.

What game are you playing where Mike could possibly be a town read?

Answered by:

LC, Uite, how comfortable are you guys being on the same wagon as your scum pick of yesterday?

I feel fairly comfortable doing so. Mike was mostly scumy from his early game play, and I musy say he's improved a lot since then. Case in point: his case on ReaperCharlie.

Which also pretty much explains this:

Early on..

mikemike778 is definitely the worst looking player in this game. His random vote for Lindisfarne was bad. As others have noted, his attitude was contradictory, and he was trying more to appease than play for himself. As for his vote on silverbullet999, that was totally uncalled for. People are simply not scummy for having connectivity problems, and him claiming they are sounds like mudslinging. Scummy.

I think it's obvious who my top suspect is at this point, so:
VOTE: mikemike778

Later...

@ReaperCharlie:

I really don't get why you are so suspicious of Lindisfarne. To me it seems like you're vastly misinterpreting what he was doing, so could you explain your case on him? An explanation of your "Secret reasonz" for your town reads would be nice.

Especially Mike, because I'm not seeing it.

So RC called Mike town and you weren't buying it. Then Mike called RC scum and you started to believe RC was mafia and Mike was town. That doesn't really fly with me.

#375

Okay, so I've seriously overestimated the amount of free time I'd have. I haven't got time to do the re-read I promised now or in the next few days for that matter. Anyway, onward to current business.

I really can't find fault with both Mike and LC's assesment of Reaper, so I'll just sheep for now.

VOTE: ReaperCharlie

This was an all around terrible post.

1. Did not do the "re-read" promised
2. Sheeped vote
3. Put RC at L-1 without announcing it

Not that I disagree that that post is scummy, but after arguing with Equinox about a mike lynch being better than a Charlie lynch (saying that Charlie's sheeping and sucking up were not as scummy as one or two posts from mike), that is definitely hypocritical.

Yeah, sorry about that. I haven't really been myself the past few weeks, and it's affected my gameplay as well. I really do think the points you've brought up against RC were solid and thorough, and I don't really have anything to add of my own at this point, hence the sheeping.

Also, that third point is nonsense. What does announcing whether or not someone is at L-1 have anything to do with it?

[LordChronos]

Any thoughts about the game, DBE/bvoigt?

[mikemike778]

LC

Who are you voting for - I thought you were voting Kish which would put him at L1 but the latest vote count says you aren't, can you confirm?

[bvoigt]

I read through the thread once, but I think it will take a second read to get my bearings. Hopefully, I'll have a real post up sometime today.

[LordChronos]

mike

As the vote count says, I am voting DBE. I revoted RC after you unvoted.

[mikemike778]

OK ... must have missed that.

[bvoigt]

OK, here are my reads (in no particular order):

Town

bvoigt

Flameaxe

Lindisfarne

DarlaBlueEyes

ReaperCharlie

a2rudeboy

: Although he ended up hammering, RC was kind of the odd man out (as far as reads go) for most of the day. With reads that are different from everyone else, it's more difficult to push a mislynch through. Leaning town.

mikemike778: I don't like that he voted just because someone told him to. However, considering that he random voted in a previous game as scum, it's not really a scumtell. Some of the stuff he does is slightly scummy, but my general feeling is newbie town.

LordChronos: #377 is a really good post.

Not Sure

Uite

silverbullet999

: He's hard to read for some reason.

AzBlueM

soothingvapors

: Same.

Scum

Kishime

MrDNA32

: I like Equinox's case in #120. MrDNA seemed to be focused on "pressure" and voting for lurkers than actual scumhunting. And #376 is a horrible, blatant contradiction.

The sheeping case on Charlie over the past few pages is not nearly as scummy as the post made by mike that I quoted in 297.

Okay, so I've seriously overestimated the amount of free time I'd have. I haven't got time to do the re-read I promised now or in the next few days for that matter. Anyway, onward to current business.

I really can't find fault with both Mike and LC's assesment of Reaper, so I'll just sheep for now.

VOTE: ReaperCharlie

VOTE: Uite

It's odd that I only have one scum read, but you can only lynch one person at a time, so....

[AzBlueM]

mike, are you planning to place a vote/a case?

DBE, thoughts/reads?

bv, I rather disagree w/the basis of your RC analysis; scum would just not have to be lynch candidates to win, they don't necessarily need to push a mislynch, I've recently seen (and accidentally participated) in town tearing at eachother. I don't I disagree w/RC's actual position on your list though. Is LC a town read for reasons other than #377?

[mikemike778]

mike, are you planning to place a vote/a case?

DBE, thoughts/reads?

bv, I rather disagree w/the basis of your RC analysis; scum would just not have to be lynch candidates to win, they don't necessarily need to push a mislynch, I've recently seen (and accidentally participated) in town tearing at eachother. I don't I disagree w/RC's actual position on your list though. Is LC a town read for reasons other than #377?

Yeah

My vote is likely heading in the direction of either Reaper's rep (forget the name) or Kish. Don't need to put the vote down for people to know this.

Was interested to hear the thoughts of the new guys (incase they spot something we've all missed) first given a vote on either of my top suspects would put them at L1. We've still got 5 days or so.

[mikemike778]

Although he ended up hammering, RC was kind of the odd man out (as far as reads go) for most of the day. With reads that are different from everyone else, it's more difficult to push a mislynch through. Leaning town.

Is this the only reason you had RC as Town ?

The primary objective for Scum is to not be lynched, if they achieve that they will indirectly cause mislynches.

I'm wary that RC is (self appointed) experienced if different reads on everyone is considered a town-tell its a sensible thing to do as scum. In fact it could fall into the 'trying hard to appear town' category.

I consider this at best a null tell.

[Kishime]

In fact it could fall into the 'trying hard to appear town' category.

Just like you!

[Kishime]

LC

Who are you voting for - I thought you were voting Kish which would put him at L1 but the latest vote count says you aren't, can you confirm?

So at what point do we consider it unacceptable for town to be so lazy where they don't even bother to do a 15 second check to see who people voted for?

[Kishime]

mikemike778: I don't like that he voted just because someone told him to. However, considering that he random voted in a previous game as scum, it's not really a scumtell.

[LordChronos]

mikemike778: I don't like that he voted just because someone told him to. However, considering that he random voted in a previous game as scum, it's not really a scumtell.

Yeah, why does doing something as scum make it not a scumtell? And for the record, I didn't tell him to. Finally, the scumtell that concerned me/Kish the most was not the random vote, but rather the appeasing nature of it.

[KittyMo]

Vote Count 21

[L-2] DarlaBlueEyes - (Uite, LordChronos)

[L-2] Kishime - (bvoigt, AzBlueM)
[L-3] mikemike778 - (Kishime)
[L-3] bvoigt - (DarlaBlueEyes)

[1] Not Voting - (mikemike778)

With

7

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Saturday, January 29, 2011 at 9:00:00 PM (GMT-8)

Prods&Replacements

Prodding DarlaBlueEyes.