Mafia 125: Khan's Game of Mafia (Game Over)

[Antihero]

First post!

VOTE: inHimshallibe

Because I hate you.

[Antihero]

Post restriction?
In a normal game?

The material Khan gave us doesn't suggest there could be PRs.

[Antihero]

vote antihero

please come clean now.

Oh, I forgot. I hate you too. But I only have 1 vote.

[Antihero]

Way to completely not answer the question.

[Antihero]

nocase has claimed that he has a post-restriction. Of course, in a Normal game, I'm immediately suspicious, but I want him to explain his restriction as much as he can. More information and views are better, and the most vital view here is that of the person who claimed such an unbelievable thing.

I may have been in my coma-nap for a while so the term "normal" game doesn't seem to mean to me what it should, but why would you be suspicious of... anything, when KK posted like an [exagerated] number of possible, likely, and/or simply for aesthetic design roles on page one. Would you be any more suspicious if he had claimed to be a paranoid gun owner? Or an unlynchable? Or a professional dog walker? Seriously, what the hell is that? That's not a profession... go get a job hippie...

It's fun to watch scum fail.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Korlash

[Antihero]

It's fun to watch scum fail.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Korlash

I can't think of a funny or an as close to funny as I can get response to this, but I do agree with the vote. So well done there...

Still, I'd much rather be talking to Chevre about it, but hey I'll take whatever I can get...

What would the response have been? And talking to Chevre about what? You made this craptacular post that didn't say anything but was disguised as content.

I may have been in my coma-nap for a while so the term "normal" game doesn't seem to mean to me what it should, but why would you be suspicious of... anything, when KK posted like an [exagerated] number of possible, likely, and/or simply for aesthetic design roles on page one. Would you be any more suspicious if he had claimed to be a paranoid gun owner? Or an unlynchable? Or a professional dog walker? Seriously, what the hell is that? That's not a profession... go get a job hippie...

[Antihero]

What would the response have been? And talking to Chevre about what? You made this craptacular post that didn't say anything but was disguised as content.

It wasn't disguised as content, it's a simple question directed at Chevre surrounded by the special korlash sauce. And if you want to get anal about stuff like that your vote didn't have a shred of "content" backing it up either. Also the response would have been one of those killer laugh out loud and have all of your workplace look at you funny jokes, but sadly I've never been able to do one of those...

Do I sense irritation? There's no reason for that; nitpicking early on is how I roll. Nothing personal.

Xalxe is obviously town. As is Chevre. If you want reasons for these, you're just SOL. P. Edit: Actually, Seraphims poo fling at Chevre is probably the reason for me thinking she's town. As for Xalxe, diction of his posts.

Seraphim, on the other hand, is scum. If you don't believe me, read post 69; it's a doozy.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Seraphim

Another P. Edit: I now hate IAUN, too.

[Antihero]

there has been no pooflinging. Ironically, Chevre seems to be the only person to notice the broad disconnect between my vote and the statement proceeding it. I never gave any reasons for my vote on Chevre folks. The entire point was directed at inHim.

Voting without giving a good reason? Sounds like a poofling to me.

Chevre's text wall made my day, BTW.

[Antihero]

....how did I misspell that....

poofling lol

Anyway. Do you honestly want to tell me that that was what you were referring to? I think you were referring to my "reasons" for voting Chevre which weren't there and now you are trying to justify your vote by backtracking and saying the vote was your reason for voting me all along which you and I both know is complete and utter bullshit.

What? I think you gave the reason of "gut," and we all know what comes out of the gut...

[Antihero]

^Wasted votes make me cry on the inside.

[Antihero]

RC, what are you babbling about?

Any vote on Jerbs is wasted because he's one of the most townish players alive.

How am I not trying to explain my opinions, Cyberbob? I thought I gave some pretty concise explanations for those two votes.

[Antihero]

- antihero is totally town

N.B. - This was

after

the posts Bob quoted. So, either he wasn't really paying attention before or....what? As for the explanations, a sketchy vote on a popular target is a pretty solid scumtell to me. I'm not sure what more you want.

Also, there are plenty of lazy people on this site. Jerbs isn't one of them. Try again.

[Antihero]

N.B. - This was

after

the posts Bob quoted. So, either he wasn't really paying attention before or....what? As for the explanations, a sketchy vote on a popular target is a pretty solid scumtell to me. I'm not sure what more you want.

After the misunderstanding with Korlash I went back and took another look. So yeah it was kind of a lack of attention plus just not really connecting the dots.

Well,

something

made you say what you did. I'm now wondering what it is. It's one thing to go from null-read to scumread, but I think we ought to hear an explanation for a townread to scumread this quickly.

I feel that you are trying to cover up some people and make yourself earn more town credit in their eyes.

I have no idea what you mean here. What does "cover up some people" mean?

[Antihero]

So, my opinion on Korlash completely made up for all the stuff you voted me for?

[Antihero]

Wait a sec, werewolf. What does "cover people up" mean?

[Antihero]

Also, you only quoted part of the wall post. Why are you piling onto the Chevre case without actually voting?

[Antihero]

Wait a sec, werewolf. What does "cover people up" mean?

try this
http://[POSSIBLEtinyurlSPAM].com/4b2fgu2
First link
About Chevre
I just felt that there was fluff in there. There was some analysis however, where (s)he voiced opinions of other players, I did not feel that it warranted my vote.

[Antihero]

So, you're saying that you actually think Chevre is town and I'm buddying with her?

[Antihero]

Also, there's no reason to be condescending. You're accusation is unclear and bizarre to me, especially considering the later jab at Chevre by quoting DGB.

[Antihero]

I'm not sure what i'm trying to prove.
I just feel like pointing some things out.

OK, well why did you only quote a small portion of the wall Chevre typed?

I also think I forgot to answer farside about Jerbs. In short, his reactions to things Chevre and Dutch said seem like something town who is making a genuine effort to hunt scum would do.

[Antihero]

OK, well why did you only quote a small portion of the wall Chevre typed?

R U C rius?

Completely.

Farside, I'm sure korlash didn't mean anything he said personally. *pats back*

[Antihero]

What's your cutoff for how much "opinion" needs to be in everyone's posts?

Also, I have a feeling that the extra stuff was put in there to point out how ridiculous Gorrad's initial request was.

[Antihero]

Cyberbob:
Chevre is a lazy townread? What universe are we in?
Also, I'm not sure what you're picking on w/ the Korlash vote. Of course it's going to be crappy, it's the first couple pages.

RC's last post pings on the scumdar.

First off, the justifications for a (hypothetical) Chevre vote look pretty lame. High-strung? that's a playstyle, not a scumtell. Also, wanting to see some something to defend against isn't a scumtell, either.
He scolds dutch for "WIFOM" (hackneyed buzzword; not a scumtell)
As for the DGB/KMD thing, I can completely see where DGB is coming from. KMD's initial post was a reckamonic-style lurk post. I'm not sure if that's a scumtell for KMD though, as I don't really know him. From the looks of RC's reaction to DGB's suggestion, I feel like RC is trying to say the "correct" thing here instead of really thinking it through.

[Antihero]

You would see what I'm picking on with regards to the Korlash vote if you actually went and read my post. The initial vote was fine in isolation for the time of the game it came at but then you went and defended it.

I still stand by what I said at the time.

By the way, "you shouldnt be offended nothing personal shits how i roll yo" is pretty much the epitome of douchebaggery.

By the way, I wasn't talking to you when I was saying that. I just recognized that I can be a bit inflammatory at times and I just wanted to let Korlash know that it wasn't because I love being an asshole. I just find an aggressive playstyle is better for pressuring scum. This comment was pretty uncalled for, IMO.

What? You can't be serious. Lynch someone before they can post?

Someone tell me you two are just pulling my leg, because this is one of the very few absolutes I'd have about the game of Mafia. You don't lynch someone before letting them talk. I mean, what the hell are we supposed to do with the results, regardless of what he flips?

I don't think DGB meant to lynch KMD right then and there. I believe she called him a "good lynch candidate."

[Antihero]

I still stand by what I said at the time.

That's a real shame, what you said at the time was totally insufficient to justify a serious vote. You could have gone into a bit more depth than "lol fake content" - maybe explaining exactly what it was about the post that gave you that feeling. Something.

Lots of words and not a lot of meaning give me the feeling of "trying to fill up space".

This comment was pretty uncalled for, IMO.

no worries bro haha just needling lol no need to get upset thats just how i play hehe

You will

never

see me actually insult the character of someone else like you're doing.

[Antihero]

Now that I think of it, RedCoyote's outraged reaction to the concept of lynching KMD feels like faking being town. A townie wouldn't fear joining such a wagon for the lulz. But a scumbag, knowing that KMD is town, might "stick his neck out" chiding everyone agreeing with such a lynch, believing there is a town cred pay off. WRONG!

Exactly, that's what I meant by this:

As for the DGB/KMD thing, I can completely see where DGB is coming from. KMD's initial post was a reckamonic-style lurk post. I'm not sure if that's a scumtell for KMD though, as I don't really know him. From the looks of RC's reaction to DGB's suggestion, I feel like RC is trying to say the "correct" thing here instead of really thinking it through.

[Antihero]

@ Antihero & Cyberbob

STOP it already. Go to your rooms, no dessert.

But mom, he started it!

CB: Fair enough

Edit: Tag Fixing.

[Antihero]

Wow, I should really preview.

Mod: Could you please fix those ugly tags? Thanks.

[Antihero]

Why are you defending Chevre so much?

Because I think that if she was scum, she would try to fade into the background the way DGB's been on her. But Chevre is still posting and putting in effort; that seems townish to me.

...DGB does have a point about Chevre completely ignoring the dayvig, though. Why did you do that, Chevre?

[Antihero]

Seraphim - 3 - Antihero, farside22, werewolf555
Xalxe - 1 - nocase
Katsuki - 1 - RedCoyote
Cyberbob - 1 - Gorrad

I'll give these 4 a re-read, but Seraphim is very tempting, if only for having more votes than the competition.

Don't forget about RC.

[Antihero]

Let's not kill these people

nocase
Xalxe
inHimshallibe
Korlash
Antihero
DrippingGoofball
Dutch one
SpyreX

Let's not kill these people yet

Cyberbob
Jerbs
farside22
iamausername

WTF who are you in this game

werewolf555

Let's kill these people

Katsuki
Seraphim
RedCoyote
curiouskarmadog
Chevre
Kmd4390
Gorrad
Runner

swap farside22 and jerbs with nocase and Korlash.

[Antihero]

Ouch. I've been demoted to "it."

Also, why do I get the feeling you know what Chevre's going to flip?

[Antihero]

Mmhm. Nice try.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: werewolf555

[Antihero]

But how did she know?!

Oh, so there's only one or two of them in that list, huh?

Is it Gorrad and Chevre?

[Antihero]

The hell? You spend most of your post castigating Chevre, demanding to know why she's still alive, saying you haven't changed your mind on her scumminess one bit and calling her out on a new "priceless moment" - only to unvote and switch to CKD. One of these things is not like the other things.

Unvote, Vote: farside22

This is a pretty crappy vote which shows either scum spinning or a superficial reading of farside's post. She even says right in the thing you quoted that Chevre's last text wall was "really good," and to me her only unresolved issue is the Jerbs thing (which I really don't understand myself).

Also, I guess your unvoting says that you really don't suspect Chevre anymore...or what?

Hey DGB

(or anyone willing to listen, really; I just think I'll have the best luck here): Can you please look at werewolf and tell me if I'm crazy or not?

[Antihero]

Hey DGB

(or anyone willing to listen, really; I just think I'll have the best luck here): Can you please look at werewolf and tell me if I'm crazy or not?

I think he's town, on account of the classic "messing-up-quote-tags" town-tell.

I disagree vehemently, but at least you looked at him, unlike everyone else minus Chevre.

Unvote because my vote isn't going anywhere and Kat is being replaced.

I'd really prefer a Runner lynch to anything on the table right now, but I know I don't have the energy or the capital to commit to a battle against him. I don't see Spyrex as voting Gorrad illegitimately here. He's fluffing his way through the first part of the game. His vote on Cyberbob is kind of lame. Kind of really lame. I don't think he bothers to really sell it, and I don't think he asks Cyberbob any questions or anything like that. This nocase vote is just as lame feeling. Then there's this point about how nocase is following the crowd, and Spyrex rightfully jumps on him for that. Why is he trying to make some boogeyman out of nothing? There's no huge anti-Gorrad sentiment here that I can tell...

...but he may have just started one.

Vote: Gorrad

Oh, so now we're playing that game. Just pretend I don't exist, right?

You don't see why Chevre was such a big wagon? You had her on your OK lynch list earlier. Or did you forget about that?

[Antihero]

Antihero (taking Korlash literally questionable-tell, gut town-tell, under-the-radar questionable-tell)

Not my fault you're brushing me off.

BTW, werewolf has been posting in other games and not this one. Check it out.

Also, look at posts 14 and 15 in his ISO. He poo-poos nocase for going for the "easier lynch" and then turns around and votes Gorrad without really that great of reasoning (without...much at all, really). Actually, looking through his ISO, he does a pretty good job of staying on big wagons and agreeing popular opinion.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: werewolf555

[Antihero]

Linking to ongoing games is modkillable?

I'm going to be pretty pissed if farside gets modkilled for that (it's scummy that you're fishing for it) as it doesn't give away any kind of information someone who was just casually reading the thread wouldn't know.

You're scum. Now shut up and die.

[Antihero]

werewolf is fresh-noob-day1-lynch-meat.

*looks at werewolf's join date*

Completely not a "noob."

You do know this confirms you as scum if werewolf flips scum, right?

[Antihero]

werewolf is fresh-noob-day1-lynch-meat.

*looks at werewolf's join date*

Completely not a "noob."

Join date doesn't matter, he still has that new car scent.

You do know this confirms you as scum if werewolf flips scum, right?

Yeah, like I'd protect him if I were his scumpal. His only use to the team would be to bus him for town cred. And who is doing exactly that?

Oh, so now I'm not the meanie scum picking on the newbie, I'm bustacular.

need to read the passed couple of pages, but have 2 games that need updating asap..

just wanted to say though, due to a read/flip in a current game, DGB is town here...

whatever

KMD is scum because he delayed his entry into the game forever. Now, he's in perma-catch-up mode. And he places a vote... when he's allegedly on page 7... and we're all on page 357. Coincidence of coincidence, his suspicions all fall on the more experienced players. Despite being "catching up" and way behind, he is very confident in his "reads."

A lot of his comments go against our collective gut reads, most of the comments are fluff, and there is A LOT of inventing alleged scum connections, which is a way of lining up lynches. The abundant making of connections between players combined with the chronic procrastination is a a big scumtell.

I want him dead.

Lining up lynches is one of the lamest tells. Ever.

[Antihero]

Well, there's a really easy way to see if KMD is selectively lurking. Let's look at his posts site-wide...

Nope, his posting is pretty consistent across the board.

Picking through KMD's posts, I don't see much fluff, but you're right that he needs to hurry up.

[Antihero]

Well, there's a really easy way to see if KMD is selectively lurking. Let's look at his posts site-wide...

Nope, his posting is pretty consistent across the board.

A pro lurker knows to lurk in ALL games, if lurking in one game.

So KMD made up all the stuff about not having great access and he isn't posting on MS consistantly because he drew scum in THIS ONE game.

OK.

Why is he making you clam up so much?

[Antihero]

falling for what?

[Antihero]

The werewolf wagon is really, really lame. I bet it's heavy with scum. Lots of my town reads are there, though.

Oh, whatever. This crap is making me tired of this game.

Ever since page 10 people like you and cyberbob gave some reason for suspecting me and then since then haven't added anything; they just keep saying things like "lol, AH is still a great lynch." I can also tell you're not really paying attention to me, because my arguement for the werewolf lynch has nothing to do with meta.

[Antihero]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Gorrad

/apathy

[Antihero]

Kidding, of course, but I am bitter over the lack of any real debate between these two acceptable wagons.

And you're wondering why I'm getting apathetic? werewolf lynch >>>>>>> gorrad lynch at this point, but people just think they can swoop in and go "lol, werewolf wagon sux balls, gorrad wagon FTW!!!!" Talking to these people is like talking to a lead block, and I'm tired of getting crapped on for no damn reason.

[Antihero]

Antihero might have been influenced by momentum. I agree it looks bad.

Can we lynch Gorrad? I can't stand for SpyreX to suffer another heartbreak, and I want pudding.

Oh, please, you're one of the lead blocks I'm talking about.

[Antihero]

The case on Antihero seems to be a summary of his posting style. Spy is a much better lynch.

Aren't you going to take a few pot shots at me first like everyone else?

The people who are crapping on my "fluffy posting" are the same people who were crapping on the werewolf wagon yesterday. If his posting wasn't fluffy and useless, I don't know whose is.

PokerFace, are you sure you're happy with your vote? Thought's on Spyrex?

Looking forward to hearing Antihero's opinions.

Anything in particular? I think I might have enough energy tomorrow to put something up, but it might have to wait until saturday.

[Antihero]

Yabba just had to pick one of my worst town games, eh?

You abandoned it without reason! You never responded to me or Weatherman!

My reason was being frustrated at the pigheadedness of the majority of people (DGB).

[Antihero]

I never claimed i'd finished reading the thread. I've only read up to page 9, actually. Being tunneled has just made me kinda apathetic about this game.

OMGSCUMSCUMSCUM

[Antihero]

Lol ok. I don't even care. I'm probably town's biggest asset, btw. I know that Yabbaguy is Not Dangerous. Bread crumbed it pretty heavily. Discuss.

This=bull

VOTE: Xtomx

[Antihero]

Xtomx is lying. Lynch on site.

[Antihero]

Too late. You're outed, scum.

[Antihero]

Kind of hard to do when scum fake investigation results on you.

[Antihero]

Anti answer this:

In context. If he was apathetic, why would he get off the majority wagon and onto a minority wagon?

The werewolf wagon wasn't going anywhere. The Gorrad one was getting momentum.
Also, partly to shut DGB up (I guess I failed at that).

Why does your last post not contain a vote for one of me or Xtomx (preferably Xtomx since he's a liar)?

unvote

wait...is there a real claim and counter claim?

When did I say anything about a counterclaim?

[Antihero]

Xtomx is lying. Lynch on site.

Yes. I'm not a cop. But I still have rolebased info that strongly suggests Xtomx is lying.

[Antihero]

Why would scum have made such a brazen fakeclaim though when he only had 2 votes on him?

[Antihero]

Unvote

What do you think you have on me, Antihero? Your actions here look pretty townly so there's probably an explanation for all this.

Also, I never claimed cop. Don't go jumping to conclusions, people. I simply said that I know Yabbaguy is not dangerous.

How did this information come about?

As a result of an action you took last night?

[Antihero]

Yes. Does it help if I tell you that i'm a Hider (aka Weak Cop)?

Which one, hider or weak cop?

And yes, it's extremely important which one you choose.

[Antihero]

Hey, it's /inv 4 and Antihero is me and Xtoxm is roflcopter!

Unvote

VOTE: Xtoxm

Although clearly, claims need elaboration before we actually go to a lynch. But I wasn't the guilty party in that situation.

Link please?

You've been tunneling on me this entire game, and now you're changing your tune because of a vague non-claim?

Explain yourself.

[Antihero]

I'd throw my vote on anti-hero here but it's a dumb situation. We have two people who haven't claimed a damn thing. Unfortunately I think anti needs to elaborate more or the situation needs to be dropped. I don't see that happening so I'll be waiting for Anti-hero.

Wait a second, why is the ball in my court? And why is your immediate instinct to throw down a vote on me? Same thing for RC, who followed this up with the weak "this."

Xtomx full claims in his next post, then I do the same and tell everyone what I saw. These mixed signals from Xtomx are already disconcerting.

ckd's reaction is cool.

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure why his vote went on Chevre, but w/e.

Incidentally Antihero: even if xtoxm was fakeclaiming scum or whatever he's hardly likely to claim any kind of innocent result on a buddy. Scum will almost without exception pull that kind of a thing with a "real" innocent result on someone they know to be town. I'm sure you can see the sense in it.

I didn't even bring this up. What does this have to do with anything?

[Antihero]

*jeopardy theme music*

tic-tock, xtomx

[Antihero]

^scum

[Antihero]

I'm a roleblocker. I blocked Seraphim (Xtoxm) last night. When this whole thing started, he game me the impression he got

results

which I knew was impossible. I guess all I did was make Xtoxm bulletproof.

UNVOTE:

[Antihero]

^Said the scum

VOTE: DGB

[Antihero]

Fuckin' lol.

newsboy = brashly

Thanks, iPod autocorrect.

The funny thing is that newsboy could actually make sense.

[Antihero]

Why is it so hard for you all to see that DGB is scum?

She slapped the vote on me after my claim, thinking everyone would go "lolscumblocker" at my claim. Well, she misguessed this time. Since she doesn't give a reason why she thinks I'm scum (ever), I think we have scum.

[Antihero]

Xtomx is Xtomx, but what was the point of YOU claiming?????

That's why.

Obviously hasn't read the thread

[Antihero]

Although, I take that bad. it does make sense as scum. If he is a scum goon who actually thought Xtoxm was claiming cop then fakeclaiming to lynch him would seem like a good idea to me. But noooo, scum would never lie to lynch what they thought was a cop... Kinda sad if I'm the only one that at least realizes this...

Are you licking a lead block?

No, scum wouldn't do that since they have an NK.

so instead of pressing him subtly to get him to come clean more you outright give up yourself. Don't see the 'town' reasoning behind that one. but hey, if you think it's town to make huge game changing decisions based solely on an "impression" someone gave you, who am I to judge?

KK: Did you give everyone a PR that makes them post like they have a stick up their asses?

[Antihero]

Are you serious? It confirms Xtoxm!

[Antihero]

Like scum's going to randomly come out of nowhere and go "lol i know yabbaguy isn't scum because i hid behind him"?

DGB, one of us is going to have to die soon, because I can't take this.

[Antihero]

I don't either. I don't think he is

now

.

What exactly do you not understand here?

[Antihero]

Unvote, Vote Inhim

This vote change is unsettling. Kmd4390 has been crazily sure that DrippingGoofBall was scum.

Even more unsettling is the fact that he's not the only one who thinks DGB is scum, and yet he still refuses to put his money where his mouth is.

Why was you vote on spy earlier today, again?

unvote.

what does everyone think about inhimshallibe?

meh, solid null

[Antihero]

Tell me, Inhim. If we lynch Xtoxm and he flips town, would you want to lynch Antihero next? What about Yabba?

Haven't thought that far ahead. His claim sucks, let's lynch him.

I see you voted me later down the page. Awesome.

Wait, what? Why does his claim suck?

It only sucks that I interpreted his claim as him actually getting results instead of an indirect deduction from the choice he submitted last night.

[Antihero]

Hm, my vote's being wasted. UNVOTE:

The only votes I can see the reasoning for are inhim (I'd have to look at cyberbob and dutch).

In retrospect, cyberbob calling anyone down on "douchebaggery" is laughable.

[Antihero]

In retrospect, cyberbob calling anyone down on "douchebaggery" is laughable.

chill out bro it's just how i roll nothing personal

Yeah keep up with that cute response and then call me stupid again. That'll show me you're not acting like a condescending jerk.

I'm not seeing the nocase suspicion; willingness to settle for a suboptimal lynch is more of a sign that he's given up on getting his first choice.

[Antihero]

That list is way too long.

[Antihero]

And I have no idea why yabba, weatherman, or Pokerface are on it.

[Antihero]

It seems like there's a lot of spyrex hate floating around, but not a lot of people who actually voted spyrex (maybe a lot of people did and I'm just misremembering...?)

[Antihero]

Chevre making a case against Dutch_one looks like lollipop snatching.

I'm sure there's a universe out there in which this line makes sense.

This one isn't it.

[Antihero]

Xtoxm got a positive result.

Any breadcrumbs?

[Antihero]

...I wonder if ckd suicided on nocase...

[Antihero]

While I don't object particularly to an inHim lynch, Spyrex would be my personal perference.

Spyrex, hm.

It depends on if he was trying to survive or find scum, though...

[Antihero]

Oh, he also could have hidden behind nocase.

poop

[Antihero]

nocase is most likely the scumkill (I guess whether at the hands of CKD or general kill is still up for debate).

Poker might have a point about Xtoxm, though.

[Antihero]

I do think a hider finding out innocents is much much better play than trying to get killed on scum.

I should stop assuming other people make the same mistakes I do
Weatherman's right.

Also, I failed to see this going back through Xtoxm:

DGB I replaced in on Night 1 and had to make a choice based on only very limited reading, so

I went for someone who I had a town lean on who I thought would not be NKed

.

Who fits this profile?
Townlist: yabba, Korlash, Kmd, Dutch one, Weatherman, iam, CKD, inHim

Dutch one was one of the major wagons at the end of the day, not a likely nightkill target.
CKD is also on this list though...

[Antihero]

Dutch one was one of the major wagons at the end of the day, not a likely nightkill target.

But a pretty likely vig target. (based on werewolf dying N1, I think expecting a vig would be natural)

Oh, I didn't think about that. Yeah, that's true too.

I hate feeling like I'm outguessing Xtoxm, but I'd also hate for his death to be in vain.

[Antihero]

No, it looks like someone trying to move this long, boring game along because the only time the town gets crap done is during the night.

...and you got onto me for getting apathetic?

I'll blame #1516 on too much vodka, but it's just to save face.

*phew*

I was worried for a second there that you had caught us.

Is this the second or third time you've pulled this crap?

[Antihero]

Let me help you with this.

I still think all scum remaining exist in (

SpyreX

or

Korlash

not both),

DGB

,

Red

,

Inhim

.

Oh, Christmas colors! I actually might agree with most of this. Green means scum, right?

[Antihero]

In my dreams, I hammer KMD repeatedly.

But just like for CKD, I can't seem to get a wagon going on the scum.

That makes me sad.

Oh, please. All the wagons you started were complete duds.

[Antihero]

Yeah, well I'm not the one complaining about how people won't sheep me onto a crappy wagon, scum.

[Antihero]

You guys are really going to make me spell this out.

-Xtoxm gave a town/scum list. He said ONLY TOWN order was relevant. Inhim was at the VERY BOTTOM in towniness.
-Xtoxm said he went after someone who he thought was town and wouldn't be NKd. Inhim was at the BOTTOM of his town list.
-Xtoxm later shows some support for an Inhim lynch, someone who was just on his TOWN list.

Wouldn't your last bullet point be a reason Xtomx DIDN'T hide behind inhim?