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Guderian Goon
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Mastin, why do you want to get information rather than lynch scum? If you want to lynch scum, vote DH.
Parama, how is it 'lolmeta'. If every game as town you post walls, and this game you are in one liner mode, it bears questioning over. You can't put it down to lolmeta when there is a fundamental difference to how people act/play as scum.Where Confidence and Charisma Collide-
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Kitoari Goon
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Votecount #3
DemonHybrid - UntrodTripod, Guderian, Ross William, Empking (4)
evilpacman8 - Nachomamma8, Demonhybrid, iamausername, Parama (4)
UntrodTripod - tylerjarvis (1)
Guderian - bvoigt (1)
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to secure a lynch.
RossWilliam has requested replacement...Interested in doing a Dept. Heaven Large Theme. If you're interested in ironing it out, drop me a line.-
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Parama Survivor
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Well, because I don't post lolwalls in most games as any alignment.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
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Empking Empking's Alt's Alt
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In what way. Honeastly, I doubt that very much considerring my prefered scum strategy in Lovers is completely different from how I plasy in any other game. My play in that game was wagonning and opportunitism with no original thought. I don't think that would be a fair assessment of how I've played in this game so far.chkflip wrote:VOTE: Empking- his hunting, so far, seems fake. Also, if you're into meta, this is exactly how he played the above-linked scum game.Plus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi-
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Calcifer Mafia Scum
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Nah, I want both. Given the chance between lynching one player who I think is scum, but gives little to no information...Guderian wrote:Mastin, why do you want to get information rather than lynch scum? If you want to lynch scum, vote DH.
...And a player who I think is scum, which'll give me a ton of information...
...I'll take the latter. Even if I thought Ross WAS scum (which I don't), then I'd want to lynch Evil/You/Demon, who I AM suspicious of, more than Ross, because all three of you have had beautiful interactions with others, giving a lot more information.
Information-->Good.
Lynching suspect-->Good.
Information AND lynching a suspect-->Great. Ross doesn't give as much information as you three, nor am I personally suspicious of him. Therefore, Ross is not the best lynch. Simple logic, to me.
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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I really don't get that... because it's the wagon itself that creates the information... so "information" is always there at the lynch no matter who gets the noose.Calcifer wrote:
Nah, I want both. Given the chance between lynching one player who I think is scum, but gives little to no information...Guderian wrote:Mastin, why do you want to get information rather than lynch scum? If you want to lynch scum, vote DH.Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
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Calcifer Mafia Scum
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evilpacman18 Mafia Scum
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I'm having a hard time getting reads this game. I feel like we're spending a lot of time and text on trivial stuff.
Mod: Can you update the OP with replacements?I'm trying to skim and it's blocking my progress.I play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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bvoigt Mafia Scum
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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A peanut sat on the railroad track
When the 5:15 came by,
Choo Choo! Peanut butter.
VOTE: DemonHybridParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
"She's sort of like a quantum computer, her reads exist in multiple states at once. u have to take into account the other dimensions." - Morning Tweet-
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DemonHybrid And Another Thing...
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How come?DrippingGoofball wrote:A peanut sat on the railroad track
When the 5:15 came by,
Choo Choo! Peanut butter.
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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Shhh, it's an experiment.DemonHybrid wrote:How come?Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
"She's sort of like a quantum computer, her reads exist in multiple states at once. u have to take into account the other dimensions." - Morning Tweet-
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don_johnson Jack of All Trades
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thanks mastin. the explanation makes sense. though i don't agree with the entire thought process, i get where you're coming from. also, it appears rw has replaced out.
unvote, vote: guderian
for this:
i thought mastin's explanation was clear enough. dgb jumping on this point gives me pause as well.Guderian wrote:Mastin, why do you want to get information rather than lynch scum? If you want to lynch scum, vote DH.town 39-32
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iamausername Mafia Scum
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Well, I'm trying to figure out what to post as a catchup, but nothing has really happened since I've been gone, so that's kind of difficult. Well, DGB turned up, that's always good. She looks like town DGB so far, I think.
Dearest Moderator, the following people are distinctly in need of prod/replacement:
Untrod Tripod
werewolf333
I don't think either of them are currently slated for replacement, and neither have posted in almost a week.
Unvote
VOTE: werewolf
I think we should wagon this guy just to see if he even notices.Elapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere-
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bvoigt Mafia Scum
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chkflip Stand Up Guy
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nhammen Mafia Scum
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Returning from Limited Access. Warning: probable wallpost incoming as soon as I catch up.-
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DrippingGoofball Mafia Piñata
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I can interrupt my experiment for this one.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: werewolfParaphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
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evilpacman18 Mafia Scum
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Good enough for me. he's top of my scumlist anyway.
vote: werewolfI play piano and competitive Smash 4 under the tag EPM-
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Parama Survivor
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Wow. We're really lynching a lurker?
What the hell, guys. What the hell.ShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
RateYourMusic page because song contests are like the only reason I'm still here.
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Parama Survivor
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evilpacman18 wrote:Good enough for me. he's top of my scumlist anyway.
vote: werewolfConfirm VoteShowEver wanted a playlist full of a lot of music I really dig? Here you go.
RateYourMusic page because song contests are like the only reason I'm still here.
GET TO KNOW ME
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DemonHybrid And Another Thing...
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nhammen Mafia Scum
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I had to look back and check this. It seems that Guderian had implied DH and EPM scum on two seperate teams (or at least I saw this implication, although DH disagreed), iamausername had explicitly mentioned this as a possibility that Guderian should consider, and Parama had stated that he believed this. Then Ross came along, and contrary to what you have stated, did not even imply anything about bussing. I would like you to state what of Ross' you thought implied bussing. I also am wondering why you are so eager to defend him. (Although your other half has not been doing so). I really don't see any sort of new insight coming from Ross. I think he was just jumping on the easy bandwagon, or rather BOTH easy bandwagons.Calcifer wrote:
Notnhammen wrote:Except, almost everyone had those two players as suspects at the time.quite, nham. True, almost every single player was thinking one of them was scum...
...But Ross--to my knowledge--is the first to express how he thoughtare scum, as I did in my post. That makes me think he's town, because he had a new insight which wasn't there before, that they were bussing each other hard. He obviously didn't say all of that, but it's definitely implied in his posts.both
To my knowledge, everyone before that was just thinking one of them was scum and the other one town. Therefore, I see no sheeping. I see active participation. And from that, I come to the logical conclusion, that Ross is town.
You do realize that at this time, half of the players in the game were lurkers, with half of the lurkers in line to be replaced?Calcifer wrote:And I'm alright with the idea of one--possibly two--scum being lurkers, but half of them? Well, if we have 2-2 scumteams, I'd expect the scum wouldn't try lurking (the smaller the team, the more important staying active is), and if we have 3-3 scumteams, then I don't think 1-2 players from EACH scumteam (or alternatively, an ENTIRE scum team) would be lurking; that's just too many. Therefore, half the scum can't be lurking. No, most of them are in the active players list; I'm quite sure of it.
From the context of your post, this references post 54. Could you tell me how this is a scum claim, cuz I looked and am not seeing anything.don_johnson wrote:aaaaaaaaaannnnnddd parama claims scum. got it.
I hadn't noticed this at the time, but you are quite right. Point against DH here.don_johnson wrote:76. nothing about nhammen says he's town. but you give him the "misguided" pass. i don't get it.
This is far too demanding. Also, are contradictions necessarily scummy? And how can you honestly say that contradictions from a hydra are scummy?DemonHybrid wrote:Agree on everything. Everything else will be marked down as a contradiction.
I'm getting kinda tired of tyler now too. I will admit that when I accused DH of targeting tyler specifically, I was wrong to do so, because there was nothing wrong with DH's attack. He just saw something before I realized how serious it was.don_johnson wrote:but instead you choose to argue the "noob" thing. anytime you want to start contributing, you let me know.
Calcifer was actually talking about my ender vote, and not UT, who has never voted for ender, and in fact is still on his random vote (whihc he has since implied has turned serious, but never stated). But, if you would like to know why I voted ender, it is because he had posted the least amount of content out of the people that I had noticed with that problem.DrippingGoofball wrote:
Yep, ender gives off that fresh NO0b scent, with notes of easy lynch. So I need to put UT in my questionable individuals column.Calcifer wrote:Don't like his ender vote in 94 (several people had not given content--if memory serves--and I dislike how he singled out ender of them)
Same here. Plus, in a multiscum game, expect to see no fake hunting until one faction has been destroyed, so this is actually really bad reasoning coming from chkflip.Calcifer wrote:
Odd, looked quite genuine to me.VOTE: Empking - his hunting, so far, seems fake.
Good point. I agree with this.Calcifer wrote:About Ross: Another thing to consider about him is information. If we lynch him, what information do we gain?
Pretty much none.
When we lynch (in my current preference order) Evil, Guderian, or Demon, what information do we gain?
A heck of a lot more, I can tell you that right now. (Again, I do have this thought out fairly well, and can give the information on request.)
Just because they didnt agree with the logic presented doesn't make them scum.don_johnson wrote:thanks mastin. the explanation makes sense. though i don't agree with the entire thought process, i get where you're coming from. also, it appears rw has replaced out.
unvote, vote: guderian
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i thought mastin's explanation was clear enough. dgb jumping on this point gives me pause as well.Guderian wrote:Mastin, why do you want to get information rather than lynch scum? If you want to lynch scum, vote DH.
Those were some very fast 4 votes. However, at only 4 votes, I don't mind too much.Parama wrote:Wow. We're really lynching a lurker?
What the hell, guys. What the hell.
Agree completely. Bandwagoning, and his "top suspect" is a lurker? Although, then maybe I'm guilty of seeing fake hunting in multiscum.Parama wrote:evilpacman18 wrote:Good enough for me. he's top of my scumlist anyway.
vote: werewolfConfirm Vote-
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Empking Empking's Alt's Alt
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Can he honestly say you weren't tempted to hop on the bandwagon/ That warm, loving, invititing bandwagon...Parama wrote:evilpacman18 wrote:Good enough for me. he's top of my scumlist anyway.
vote: werewolfConfirm VotePlus, if you guys want to make a point, skip the walls, because everyone else in the game does as well. - Magister Ludi-
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Calcifer Mafia Scum
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I was this was the case. But do you honestly believe that all scum are going to actually be looking for the other team as opposed to just aiming to survive throughout the day?nhammen wrote:Same here. Plus, in a multiscum game, expect to see no fake hunting until one faction has been destroyed, so this is actually really bad reasoning coming from chkflip.
NAHHHHH
This EPM wagon gives me WAY too many happy tinglies to switch. We would be tempted to switch, though, especially if this game keeps lagging. We expect this to chance one the game hits about Tuesday or so, though.
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