Mafia 123 - Outdoorsmen Mafia 2 GAME OVER

evilpacman18 · Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Sun Jan 02, 2011 11:32 am

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evilpacman18 · Post Post #17 (isolation #1) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:17 am

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evilpacman18 · Post Post #20 (isolation #2) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 4:51 pm

Vote: Parama

unvote, vote: Guderian

unvote, vote: DH

Hi everyone I've played with.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #27 (isolation #3) » Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:36 pm

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Vote: Evilpacman18

I don't like that you start out the game voting for everyone you've played with before, honestly. It seems like you're setting them up where they can't vote you without OMGUSing, and they also happen to be the ones that know you best, and thus will have the best chance out of all of us as pegging you as scum. Although, I find it VERY interesting that the person you ended up voting was DemonHybrid. Perhaps he's your scumpartner, considering you confirmed at about the same time AND you happened to vote for him with your first RVS? That's just a coincidence I'm not willing to believe.

Or I just went down the playerlist and voted for everyone I knew in the order they appeared. And I don't mind if they vote me. OMGUS is ok. It's RVS.

DemonHybrid wrote:I like being able to possibly figure out 1/2 of the scum after just one post.

EPM, pick a name: Parama or Guderian. Not in regards to anything in particular, just which one appeals most to you.

Parama. Easier to say.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #60 (isolation #4) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 9:51 am

Untrod Tripod wrote:...I have never been in a game where people make srsface scumlists on page 2. I really have no idea what to make of this.

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I'll keep voting DH though.

Especially scum lists based on an RVS vote.

I do appreciate Nachomamma's enthusiasm though.

Nachomamma8 wrote:
Confirm Vote: Evilpacman18

Seems to me like you're trying to distance from your RVS vote... It seems odd that you would choose to make your vote so logical and mechanical as opposed to all of your other games where you were town...

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 55&start=0
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 21&start=0

In these two games, which are the only two you've RVS'ed in (you were town both times), you started out with a more playful, casual, carefree vote. But this vote is different. Why?

Well I actually didn't RVS in the second game, I replaced in and voted vollkan, who ended up being scum and it totally wasn't an RVS vote. In the first game, the only people I knew were Parama who I was mad at for getting me lynched in a game on Scorehero in which he was so obvscum that I claimed scum and said he was my scumbuddy just so people would lynch him, he ended up being town, and Anti who I DID vote for BECAUSE I knew him (and because he was SK and killed me when I was scum about to win if he chose anyone BESIDES me in another game I replaced into). So I really don't see the difference in metas between there and now.

DemonHybrid wrote:If EPM is scum, so is Guderian.

Your question was so broken. What was the correct answer? I had three choices.
If I answere Parama, Guderian and I become scum.
If I answere Guderian, Parama and I become scum.
If I refused to answer, I become twice the scum. You can't reaction test properly if all my reactions will enforce your theory that I'm scum. Again, especially one that's based off of a single post.

Nachomamma8 wrote:I'd agree with what DH has said wholeheartedly. Adding a reason for picking a name UNPROMPTED shows that he's nervous about his choice, so he wants to act like he put more thought into it than he actually did. And, he's definitely not the type to tie himself to his scumbuddy by stating their name out of a group of two people, so yeah, I'd agree with that assessment.

TOWN:
Nachomamma8
DemonHybrid
Parama

SCUM:
evilpacman18

Come on, the rest of you, don't be afraid to post. It's not like you're going to be able to hide from me forever...

See but if I didn't add a reason, the outcome would've been the same (me and whoever I don't pick are scum) AND I would have been forced into saying why I picked the name when there wasn't even supposed to be a why in the first place:

DH wrote:Not in regards to anything in particular, just which one appeals most to you.

Guderian wrote:
If EPM is scum, so is Guderian.
This is utter nonsense on so many levels.

Are you serious? If so, you deserve to by lynched before page 3.

Vote DemonHybrid

Is mastin hydraing with anyone or not?

While I agree it's ridiculous, it doesn't really merit a vote. I don't think his logic is scummy, just stupid.

Nachomamma8 wrote:iamusername's vote's already in the right place, which is definitely the right start for him. He also points out that I've gotten the game sewn up already, which doesn't sound like scum cutting their losses and bussing to me. After all, it's not wise to gamble if there's a protective role in the game or not, and he just told them who to protect.

You sound just like Fate

Claiming people are town because they sheep you. However, I count that as a town (with big ego) tell.

Parama wrote:A 10-3-3 is not balanced by any means. Town has 3 mislynches, yet needs to lynch scum 6 times (in the worst case scenario). So the game's basically relying on crosskills. 10-3-3 is incredibly swingy and if we're playing a 10-3-3 then screw this game. 12-2-2 probably isn't likely either considering that the game could end D2 in the best case scenario. Also very swingy. Meh. 2 mafia factions in a game this small is barely normal anyways.

Agree 100% on EPM - his first post set off tons of alarms and it's been
1. flailing nonstop since then.

In other news, I don't see why DH is town. He didn't even bother to point out EPM's "vote everyone" ploy, though I agree that it makes him unlikely to be scum with EPM since they posted back to back. But I wouldn't be shocked if EPM and DH were on different scumteams.
Guderian 35 lolOMGUS. P.S. for anyone arguing differently, it does actually happen, but rarely.
IAAUN could totally be on the not-EPM scumteam. Or could be a good townie sheeping Nacho. I can't tell.
DH 48 is like fencesit central. I don't even see how he's making any town lists at all. He's saying all that like he doesn't believe a word of it or isn't interested in lynching right.

Scum here:
Evilpacman
Guderian
DemondHybrid
??? (DH's buddy)
[Maybe 2 more scum maybe not?]

Town here:

2. Nachomamma

UT and IAAUN are the only others who've posted and I don't have enough to get a solid read off them yet, so meeeeh.

vote: Evilpacman
llama

1. Flailing nonstop since then? I've posted once and it was short. This is a pretty big hyperbole. Don't see any town reasons to exaggerate like that either.
2. There's no reason to peg Nachomamma as town. You obviously believe I'm on one of the scum teams. You have no reason to believe he can't be on the other scum team or powerbussing. He's already exhibited one similarity to Fate, I wouldn't be surprised to see more of them.

unvote

since RVS is over but I'm not placing a real vote yet.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #66 (isolation #5) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:16 am

Parama wrote:@EPM: Nothing Nacho has done is even remotely scummy. Why would I even consider him a scum suspect? Deflect more.

Not saying consider him a scum suspect. Saying don't consider him obvtown.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #68 (isolation #6) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:42 am

Exactly. He's not obvtown. Could be scum. Not saying he's likely to be, not saying I have a case on him or the evidence with which to build one. Just everyone's got him on their town lists. That's never good for town. If he is scum, he's already in position to coast his team to the win.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #91 (isolation #7) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:12 pm

I unvoted off of DH. My vote's not on anybody.

Fix'd along with another error.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #92 (isolation #8) » Wed Jan 05, 2011 6:16 pm

Also, I have no access tomorrow and on Friday I'm moving into my dorms. Starting college so I have no idea what my access will be like but I'll try to get on on my iPod some time this weekend.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #125 (isolation #9) » Sat Jan 08, 2011 5:27 am

Good morning ladies and gentlemen. I'm on my iPod so a short post before I get up and ready for the day.
First of all, Werewolf just dug himself a nice little hole by proving he's not reading with the above post and will probably get my vote when I read through again.

Calcifer, never seen you before but I'm extremely impressed so far. Would you care to give me some more info on your read on me? I seem to have been mostly left out of your big post and the other post you made directed at me was mostly reiterations of stuff that DH and (IIRC) Nacho said about my reply to his question. Since we both seem to be fans of meta reads, I'm especially hoping for some comparisons of my meta so far in this game to my scum meta (best example of that would be BBM's 118) and my town meta (probably Mostly Mountainous is the best one).

The case on Nacho about not knowing there was two scum factions. I'll agree with Calcifer on that, a lot of people don't read Town PMs past the role. I was guilty of it myself this game, fortunately someone brought it up before I said anything ignorant about it. Setup discussions seem to be a bit unpopular but just throwing it out there. I don't see 10-3-3 being possible at all.

Be back later.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #138 (isolation #10) » Sun Jan 09, 2011 1:21 pm

Ew, pushing a lynch at page 6 on a large normal? No way. I'm waiting for Calc's next post before I go on.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #206 (isolation #11) » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:04 am

Here's my first game as scum. It was also my first Mafia game ever which is why I think 118 is best for my meta read. I did survive til the end though.

http://www.scorehero.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=103539

I should have a new laptop in a few days.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #232 (isolation #12) » Fri Jan 14, 2011 7:46 am

I'm having a hard time getting reads this game. I feel like we're spending a lot of time and text on trivial stuff.

Mod: Can you update the OP with replacements?

I'm trying to skim and it's blocking my progress.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #243 (isolation #13) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:27 am

Good enough for me. he's top of my scumlist anyway.

vote: werewolf

evilpacman18 · Post Post #255 (isolation #14) » Sat Jan 15, 2011 3:28 pm

Parrot^

evilpacman18 · Post Post #281 (isolation #15) » Sun Jan 16, 2011 2:35 pm

Lol @ rolefishing

evilpacman18 · Post Post #327 (isolation #16) » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:09 pm

Lol no you wouldn't. There's two teams.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #364 (isolation #17) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 10:49 am

Emkping you've been on Nacho since the beginning and Calc since they came in but haven't really given any reasons besides not originally being aware that there was two scum teams. Care to say anything else?

evilpacman18 · Post Post #367 (isolation #18) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:00 pm

bvoigt wrote:
evilpacman18 wrote:Emkping you've been on Nacho since the beginning and Calc since they came in but haven't really given any reasons besides not originally being aware that there was two scum teams. Care to say anything else?
Are you planning to say anything else?

It's on my list of things to do.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #368 (isolation #19) » Mon Jan 24, 2011 1:01 pm

Empking wrote:
evilpacman18 wrote:Emkping you've been on Nacho since the beginning and Calc since they came in but haven't really given any reasons besides not originally being aware that there was two scum teams. Care to say anything else?
He's clearly scum. I can't put it into words but he's scum.

Meh. This response gets you town points in my book. But you're wrong.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #408 (isolation #20) » Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:45 pm

Dammit, if you're so bent on lynching one of two people without doing anything constructive today, flip a coin. Let's get on something new or get this over with. I have no reason to post the way this day is going.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #447 (isolation #21) » Mon Jan 31, 2011 3:20 pm

Besides a bad case of tunnel-vision on me, I don't see anything wrong with the way DH is playing the game. I can understand why he'd have that tunnel vision too. This is a really tough game to read.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #480 (isolation #22) » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:37 pm

Claim: NK immune scum.

I'm going to come back and reread this game sometime. I still have a lot to learn obviously. I was outed as soon as my first post and couldn't do a thing about it from then on. I'm really impressed with how easily you guys managed to catch me and I'll make sure to use this game to improve (learn from my mistakes sort of thing), and hopefully next time I play with or against you, I'll be more masterful. That being said, I hope you lose. Go scum.

evilpacman18 · Post Post #482 (isolation #23) » Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:48 pm

I'll also apologize for my mad active lurking. I was pretty panicked. My best two games were my two games as scum. I sort of expected to do that well again and it didn't exactly work out. I still haven't even figured out how voting for people I've played with before is scummy but whatever.