DEFCON Mafia 2.0 - Over, American Victory!

[gandalf5166]

I'm no longer reading Toog's posts. Can we lynch the bitch now? And tomorrow we can lynch chess. I've never seen chess-scum before. It's pretty hilarious.

[AurorusVox]

Scumclaim wtf?

Vote: Toog

Sorry I've been MIA I've come down with the flu. This is my brief catchup post before I catch a train home...

RedCoyote/Bunnylover; why no Toog vote? If he's town, what reason at all would he have to claim scum? I see that Fate takes a lot out of you but come on, if he's town that's just a stupid thing to do. I mean, as scum its a stupid thing to do but hey, we get a scumlynch D1 so I'm not complaining.

Percy; so are you saying that as scum he'd have been more likely to stick to his position, i.e. NOT give up on the plan, and that his decision to nukebbq Gandalf was entirely without malicious scum intent? I can understand that inconsistency comes out of frustration, but I've used inconsistencies many a time to catch scum (it's my favourite method), and that frustration can easily come from scum who are getting backed into a corner. If it is as you say - "No one's listening to me, I'll just do as I please!" then Jed wasn't as committed to the control-nuke plan as he proposed. Which looks to me like that was sneaky sneaky lying, or him parading as pro-town. This is why I think his shift is likelier scum motivated than town motivated.

[AurorusVox]

--My train got cancelled. I'm not going home for Christmas. Sadness

I'm nuking gandalf ASAP. Game with nukes ===> I don't have to post cases

This is the wrong mindset, my god. I think that yeah, nukes are fine to fire on your own accord, but you have to be prepared to back up why when questioned. Percy's case on you is rocksolid though so I doubt you'll ever get to launch.

Oh btw, Percy; I would have said sub should claim...looks like he did that already tho.

Dana's play (including his "who's going to be stupid enough to vote Toog over Fate?") also now looks deliciously scummy in the new post-toog-scumclaim context. Chess has said Dana is definite town...if there's a chess/dana/toog scumteam, we have been blessed.

[SocioPath]

Toog claimed scum, hence the vote.

My god.

BUT HE IS STILL 50% LIKELY OF BEING TOWN!


CLAIMED SCUM? WELL THOSE ODDS MAKE IT A REAL COIN FLIP, DON CHA KNO.

[SnakePlissken]

Hello Im replacing in for Jed Cooper. Im going to need some time to look back at whats being going on although looking back at the last few pages, I see Toog's just come out and Scum claimed, so we'd be stupid not too..

unvote, vote Toog

Now I have some time to read back.

[AlmasterGM]

[Day 1, DEFCON 3 - Vote Count IV - Blaze]

"A soldier will fight long and hard for a bit of colored ribbon." --Napoleon

[Votes]

AurorusVox

(0)

Baby Spice

(0)

bobsnox

(1) - Internet Stranger

bunnylover

(1) - VasudeVa

chesskid3

(1) Percy

danakillsu

(1) - Faraday

Faraday

(0)

Fate

(2) - bunnylover, danakillsu

gandalf5166

(0)

Internet Stranger

(1) - bobsnox

Jack

(0)

Katsuki

(1) - Faraday

Kitoari

(0)

Percy

(0)

RedCoyote

(0)

SnakePlissken

(1) - RedCoyote

SocioPath

(0)

SpyreX

(0)

Toogeloo

(10) - Fate, Jack, SocioPath, gandalf5166, Baby Spice, Katsuki, SpyreX, chesskid3, AurorusVox, SnakePlissken

VasudeVa

(0)

Not voting

(2) - Toogeloo, Kitoari

[Activity]

The deadline is Wednesday, 29 December at 11:59pm EST. Eleven votes are required to lynch.

SnakePlissken

replaces

Jed Cooper

. Please welcome him!

[danakillsu]

I'll hammer, since it's going to happen anyway, but before I do, I should say that I did not take Toog's scumclaim to be serious. But others seem to believe it is, and there's no way I'm convincing a group this dumb that it's not before midnight tomorrow. Well, here goes nothing.

unvote vote: Toogeloo

[Toogeloo]

I'll hammer, since it's going to happen anyway, but before I do, I should say that I did not take Toog's scumclaim to be serious. But others seem to believe it is, and there's no way I'm convincing a group this dumb that it's not before midnight tomorrow. Well, here goes nothing.

unvote vote: Toogeloo

It wasn't serious, I am American.

My parting words would be to look first at people who didn't take a stance on Fate v. Toog situation, especially people who didn't vote for one of us two despite us making it public that we wanted it between us. These people were probably trying to stay off the radar. I would also look at people who tried to duck out and stay ducked out over the last few days given the situation, or those that called Fate or I scummy/unreadable, but did not lay a vote.

Percy's attack on chess is also good, but I would not let that be your primary focal point on Day 2.


The following players are ones that I felt the least townie after the day ended:
Internet Stranger - hasn't posted in almost 2 days, made no comments about the Fate and I situation.
Bobsnox - came in after being prodded by commentary to make a comment, note however that he called me scummy, yet didn't vote for me.
Baby Spice - terrible content, extremely inactive.
chesskid - see Percy's case.
Katsuki - mostly gut, but he was fence sitting at the end like he was looking for a reason to get off me or something.
Gandalf - sheep.
Faraday - avoided direct conflict.

[Toogeloo]

And I stand by the fact that I had to be lynched because allowing me to live on would have been a detriment to town's thought process. As I said before, I talked too much, allowed myself to say stupid things that got picked apart, and as a result, I could not allow myself to continue living in the game for fear of how much focus would be on me over the coming days and not on who it should be on.

[Toogeloo]

Oh, one other parting piece of information, since I am sure it will help.

My list had every role on it, and I still got Silo, so know that every role is in the game.

[Bunnylover]

My thoughts on the subject no longer matter, as anything I say will be influence or said to be influence by Toogeloo coming out and saying it was quiet obvious that he wasn't claiming scum. And Yes I know he didn't use those words exactly.

[Kitoari]

Screw it, I'll drop the hammer.

Vote: Toogeloo

I'll hammer, since it's going to happen anyway, but before I do, I should say that I did not take Toog's scumclaim to be serious. But others seem to believe it is, and there's no way I'm convincing a group this dumb that it's not before midnight tomorrow. Well, here goes nothing.

unvote vote: Toogeloo

Aw I was beaten to it.

Kito is sad sad sad.

[chesskid3]

Oh, one other parting piece of information, since I am sure it will help.

My list had every role on it, and I still got Silo, so know that every role is in the game.

Order please, It'll help.

[chesskid3]

Oh and gandalf, you still haven't seen chessscum

[SnakePlissken]

Oh and gandalf, you still haven't seen chessscum

Becuase you have yet to flip in this game?

[chesskid3]

My god. I'm already aware that I'm giogn to be quicklynched tomorrow, so I'd like gandalf's bullshit not to last, please.
He's scum this game, I'm fucking sure of it. Meanwhile he calls me scum every goddamn time we play.

When I flip I want his ass nuked 5 minutes into Defcon 1.
Dana, do it for me please?

[Kitoari]

My god. I'm already aware that I'm giogn to be quicklynched tomorrow

You say that like it's a bad thing.

[chesskid3]

Oh btw horrible thought.

I

f scum

get

battleship and

failsafe

the failsafe guy can't be killed without two town deaths(or a lynch+nuke) unless the battleship dies first

I

just had an

am

azing idea.
Come D1, if

the failsafe

is town, they can claim, and we can pseudo lynch, with the victim (if they have a silo) being required to nuke the failsafe, then cancel the launch, and someone else can be lynched.
Would that work?

That's my claim, btw.
So if you want to just force gandalf to nuke me on D3 I'd also be more than happy with that. But if you seriously lynch me D2 and let him live, I'm going to kick all of you in the balls postgame.

[Kitoari]

That's the worst breadcrumb ever. It's not even a breadcrumb. You just picked words out of posts that happen to say what you wanted to.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 8#p2624018
Now this, this is a breadcrumb. Read the first letters of every line.

[chesskid3]

Blow me.

[bobsnox]

Toog throwing dirt at me when he's going down... hmmm

I didn't get back on until just now and believe me I was changing my vote to you as of the previous page. But I don't believe that makes me suspicious that I stayed out of the MESS that was going on between you two. The way I saw it - everyone else was focused on your little battle, why not keep pressure on other quadrants?

Bobsnox - came in after being prodded by commentary to make a comment, note however that he called me scummy, yet didn't vote for me.

I have called 3-4 people scummy and my vote has only been on one person (IIRC). Do I need to place a vote on everyone I think is scummy? lologic

[gandalf5166]

1. Fail breadcrumb 2. Didn't we already decide that anybody who picked failsafe would be insta-lynched? There is no pro-town reason to pick that.

[chesskid3]

You tried to say that, Toog owned you in the face by saying that it was on his list as well.

Either lynch me and speednuke Gandalf, or just make gandalf nuke me come Defcon 1. I don't care, but I wan't dead gandalf, and I'm relying on Dana to make it happen.

[gandalf5166]

But toog is scum, yes? Just because he says he's american post-death doesn't mean he is.

[chesskid3]

He's not going to flip scum, duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh