Consulmaker II: the Pyrrhic War - Game over.

[SensFan]

It really doesn't matter today, since I'm pretty sure Jack is the lynch regardless, but I think we should think about whether we want a claimed Consulmaker as Tribune. Seems like that's putting an awful lot of power in one person's hands to dictate the lynch.

[Parama]

You mean confirmed town consulmaker?
Yeah, I think it's a fairly good idea.

[SensFan]

I still don't think we want someone deciding who the consuls are and having veto power. There's no one in this game who I trust to have that massive amount of control over our lynches.

[ribwich]

Vote: ribwich

I intend on doing this at the start of every day. I also do not plan on giving any explanation on my choices for consuls. The more I say about which players are the best to give power to is the more information scum get at guessing who I'm going to elect the next day.

[Porochaz]

I propose ribwich never be elected.

[Feysal]

I still don't think we want someone deciding who the consuls are and having veto power. There's no one in this game who I trust to have that massive amount of control over our lynches.

As you said, it matters very little today. I don't see why ribwich would decide to veto Jack's execution, now that the choice of consuls has proven Jack to have lied, he has to go. Unless he has spent the night crafting some story worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize.

Besides, how much control would ribwich actually have? He cannot dictate who the Consuls should execute, he can only choose the Consuls themselves. His opinion may have more weight due to his confirmed town status, but that is all the influence he has. I don't think this is reason enough not to choose him.

Then there is the plan to choose Tribunes so we can observe them and get their stances, in other words information. I'm warming up to this idea, though I would prefer to choose trusted players as Tribunes. Trusted, but not confirmed. From an information viewpoint, it would make no sense to have a confirmed town as Tribune, since there would be nothing new we could learn by observing him. This would not matter today, since Jack having lied seems to be beyond question, but on future days it would be a point against electing ribwich.

Vote: Primate

I'm fine with him and ribwich being Tribunes today.

P.S.

CETERUM CENSEO JACK ESSE CAEDANDUM!

(No, that is not a soft claim. I'm having a bit of fun with the ancient Roman setting, and even if only Cogito Ergo Sum gets the reference, that is enough. )

[SensFan]

Besides, how much control would ribwich actually have? He cannot dictate who the Consuls should execute, he can only choose the Consuls themselves. His opinion may have more weight due to his confirmed town status, but that is all the influence he has. I don't think this is reason enough not to choose him.

He has a tremendous amount of control. If he finds me scummy, he can pick two Consuls who both find me scummy as well, for instance. I think it's a massive mistake to let someone pick the Consuls and also have veto power.

[dramonic]

hey look I'm consul.
Fortunately for you Reck, there's someone who's confirmed scum in general, not just to me

[SensFan]

I must say, I'm stunned at the choices of consuls today.

[Parama]

Yeah the picks could've been better (scot as consul? Really???)

[Nathanael]

vote: ribwich

Jack, you better have a REALLY good explanation.

[SpyreX]

Vote: Primate

Maybe when I'm back home I can go into more detail why rib's stance irritates me to no end confirmed or not.

I'm still betting town, but Jack dies today.

[Lowell]

vote ribwich

It's continually shocking to me that I'm not a consul.

[xRECKONERx]

hey look I'm consul.
Fortunately for you Reck, there's someone who's confirmed scum in general, not just to me

hey look I'm consul.
Fortunately for you Reck, there's someone who's confirmed scum in general, not just to me

hey look I'm consul.
Fortunately for you Reck, there's someone who's confirmed scum in general, not just to me

hey look I'm consul.
Fortunately for you Reck, there's someone who's confirmed scum in general, not just to me

hey look I'm consul.
Fortunately for you Reck, there's someone who's confirmed scum in general, not just to me

hey look I'm consul.
Fortunately for you Reck, there's someone who's confirmed scum in general, not just to me

WHO THE FUCK MADE DRAMONIC CONSUL

[xRECKONERx]

No, seriously. He tunnels on me all day yesterday, then when it comes time to put his money where his mouth is and line up an execution on the ONLY PERSON HE EXPRESSED GREAT SUSPICION OF, he backpedals.

Someone make me consul so I can chop his head off.

(I still love you, baby, but you're sooooooo scummy it hurts to watch)

[inHimshallibe]

There's no backpedal there, Reck. We're lynching the lying claimed Consulmaker..?

BTW, V/LA for the next couple of days. A light dusting of snow in Nashville means double-work for any of Those Brave Souls Forging Through The Elements (TM).

[xRECKONERx]

Jack is town. Scum have no motivation for doing something retarded like that.

[Feysal]

Jack is town. Scum have no motivation for doing something retarded like that.

And what, pray tell, would the town motivation for doing that be? Not to mention, lying is generally regarded as anti-town, for good reason.

Oh, and one more thing:

CETERUM CENSEO JACK ESSE CAEDANDUM!

[xRECKONERx]

Trying to protect the real consulmaker? I dunno. It's so fucking blatantly scummy, though, I can't see WHY scum would do it to draw attention to themselves.

[Jack]

I picked from ribwhich's list for wifom to confuse scum, but I got the lists mixed up which is my bad you should have made it clearer which we were supposed to pick from, still on the whole I'm disappointed that people don't appreciate how protown a claim it was, lotta upside low downside considering the consul choices thus far.

[Nathanael]

I picked from ribwhich's list for wifom to confuse scum, but I got the lists mixed up which is my bad you should have made it clearer which we were supposed to pick from, still on the whole I'm disappointed that people don't appreciate how protown a claim it was, lotta upside low downside considering the consul choices thus far.

lol. this is just plain funny.
so you claim you picked from the wrong list?

please execute him.

hey look I'm consul.
Fortunately for you Reck, there's someone who's confirmed scum in general,

not just to me

and this is one of the most blatant scumslips I have seen in a long time. (eccept one Parama knows about.)

[Nathanael]

I picked from ribwhich's list for wifom to confuse scum

, but

I got the lists mixed up

which is my bad you should have made it clearer which we were supposed to pick from, still on the whole I'm disappointed that people don't appreciate how protown a claim it was, lotta upside low downside considering the consul choices thus far.

btw, aren't the two bold statements in direct contradiction to each other?

consuls, how much more does it take until you execute this obvscum?

@mod: are there jesters in this game?

[SensFan]

Nathaneal, they have to wait a week anyways.
And it doesn't matter what the answer to your modquestion is; Jack is getting executed today.

[xRECKONERx]

I picked from ribwhich's list for wifom to confuse scum, but I got the lists mixed up which is my bad you should have made it clearer which we were supposed to pick from, still on the whole I'm disappointed that people don't appreciate how protown a claim it was, lotta upside low downside considering the consul choices thus far.

lol. this is just plain funny.
so you claim you picked from the wrong list?

please execute him.

hey look I'm consul.
Fortunately for you Reck, there's someone who's confirmed scum in general,

not just to me

and this is one of the most blatant scumslips I have seen in a long time. (eccept one Parama knows about.)

I've been saying dram is scum for days now...
But I'm not seeing the scumslip.

[Nathanael]

oooohhhh f*ck. misread.
I read: "Fortunately for you Reck, there's someone who's confirmed scum in general, not just me"