Mini 1096 - Seinfeld Mafia (Game Over)

[Haschel Cedricson]

Vote: Untrod Tripod

. He knows why.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Katsuki, MoI, LMP and charter are scum. calling it now.

How many people is Untrod Tripod telling the truth about here? Any guesses?

[Haschel Cedricson]

obviously I'm bussing all three of my scumbuddies. The trick is figuring out which one is the townie. GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO LYNCH ALL OF THEM TO FIND OUT. EVERYONE JUMP ON THE LMP WAGON NAO

I wasn't asking you.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Vote Haschel Cedricson

He knows why.

Indeed I do.

As for your guess, we'll have to do what Untrod Tripod said in order to find out if you win or not.

[Haschel Cedricson]

EBWOP: Well, we don't HAVE to, but it's certainly the quickest way.

[Haschel Cedricson]

vote: Katsuki

lack of Seinfeld knowledge, why sign of for a game you dont know anything about?
then his interactions with Magna.

Elaborate on this.

[Haschel Cedricson]

This just goes towards supporting my wild stab at LMP being scum

Hey look … scum motivation sighted!!

UNVOTE: Charter
VOTE: Untrod

This is a good post. Everybody should reread it.

[Haschel Cedricson]

really i have to explain why 6 consecutive posts of useless banter is weird interactions.

When the two players involved are literally the only players to have post in the thread? Yes, you absolutely need to explain why that's a weird interaction.

whats even weirder is the fact that Haschel completely ignores it and just randomly votes like hes in auto pilot.

I ignored it because I gave none of the fucks about it. None of them.

A bunch of reminiscing about previous games that I wasn't a part of and have no intention of reading? Not interested. And my vote wasn't random.

who knows what Untrod Tripod was doing in his first couple post and if any of it was serious but he atleast calls both of them out.

I have a few guesses. Also, the second half of the sentence is weird. Perhaps somebody else can articulate why.

and in light of MoI's quick defense of Katsuki [...]
signing up for a game that you have little knowledge of is more jerkish than scummy.

If somebody is attacked for doing something that isn't scummy, and a third player points out that it's not scummy, we should be suspicious of the third player for defending?

That doesn't make sense.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Haschel,

Vote: Untrod Tripod

. He knows why.

whats even weirder is the fact that Haschel completely ignores it and just randomly votes like hes in auto pilot.

I ignored it because I gave none of the fucks about it. None of them.

A bunch of reminiscing about previous games that I wasn't a part of and have no intention of reading? Not interested. And my vote wasn't random.

You serious?

Yes.

[Haschel Cedricson]

EBWOP:

i prolly already have a short life in this game but take kmd's list and reverse it.

This sentence really appeals to me.

No, wait, it appeal to my emotion.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Hachel, usually, "he knows why" isn't a serious vote. Care to explain?

Not really.

[Haschel Cedricson]

@Haschel : Are the reasons for your initial vote on UT the same as they are now? Can you point to anything in thread that's scummy about UT since?

No, they are not. I first voted UT for a particular reason, and then I left it on him because I felt post 34 was scummy.

It's a moot point though, after rereading I feel that raj is a better bet.

Unvote: Untrod Tripod; Vote: raj

Also, does anybody find it odd that Kmd wants me to explain my "He knows why" but doesn't wand LMP to explain his "He knows why", even though the two were made for differing reasons?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Maybe because mine was just making light of the fact that you always RVS saying "He knows why" and was therefore obviously not worth comment?

I know that, and you know that, but I don't see why Kmd would have known that.

[Haschel Cedricson]

See here is where you lose me Haschel. Up until now I thought you actually had some real game related reason to be pressuring Untrod. But this post clarifies that your behavior is no different than Maclock’s. What’s the purpose of continuing to push the mysterious angle when we got pushed out of the ‘HaHa Cute’ stage by Page 2?

That's the exact opposite of what a correct interpretation of my post would look like. I'm not pushing the mysterious angle, and in fact specifically stated I was no longer doing so. That's the opposite of MacLock.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Oh, I didn't state it, but I'm no longer using it as a reason to vote.

Honestly, stating it at this point would be anticlimactic.

[Haschel Cedricson]

I called out rajr for his appeal to emotion before anybody else did, was the first person to point out that his reason for voting MoI for defending Katsuki was nonsensical, and somehow I'm the one lazily sheeping? I don't think so.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Can somebody give me a one-sentence summary of the case on MOI? Because after rereading the two, LMP comes off as much scummier than MOI, and the whole "somebody please hammer" thing above doesn't help at all.

and no i wont be answering any other questions that i havnt answered already. if you really are at L-1 you are in no position of giving me ultimatums and i feel most of the attacks are scum driven.

This is scummy as hell, and more people need to reread your posts.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Likewise, I'm soon going to be in the land of dial-up Internet (My parents' house).

[Haschel Cedricson]

Prod received.

Rereading the entire game.

[Haschel Cedricson]

OK, I'm going to soften my crusade against Magna for the moment. My reason for thinking that he might be more likely to be scum has to do with meta, and I'm not going to discuss what exactly it was right now. That's because I feel that I can get more definitive info depending on whether or not he does a certain thing in the future, and I don't want to tip what that is just yet. I do think that there's enough there to keep my vote on him for now.

That said, the Magna wagon will be absolutely fascinating to analyze once we get some flips. For right now, there is one clear winner for scummiest vote on the wagon, and that's peanutman. The reasoning was pretty weak, feels a bit invented, and the timing was absolutely perfect for either a bus (in the Magna-scum case) or an attempt to finalize the wagon (in the Magna-town case). His pressure-off unvote makes me think that they're more likely scum-buddies than the Magna-town/peanut-scum case.

I'm not seeing the major raj case. He's more null to me than scum.

There's something off about this post. The bit about peanutman's timing being perfect for either a bus or a wagon-finalizer suggests that peanut should be lynched before MoI, yet Mac leaves his vote on MoI. This reads like an attempt to set up a lynch for tomorrow regardless of how MoI flips.

You’ve been called to provide something (really even anything) and failed repeatedly to do it.

Again, not really by anyone but you, so I'm good for now.[/quote]

I'll call you to provide something as well.

Whatever your meta thing on MoI is, apparently it's based on something MoI did in his first three posts of the game. Looking over those posts, I cannot imagine what you could possibly see in those that would cause you to not vote and to barely discuss anybody but Magna for an entire day.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Prod received.

I have to leave now to attend a meeting, but I'll probably have something posted tonight.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Sorry, everyone. My meeting did not go very well, and I spent most of the weekend drunk. Normally drunkenness compels me to get caught up in all my mafia games, but apparently that only applied to Happy Drunk Haschel and not Sad Drunk Haschel.

Also MacavityLock. I'm interested in others' opinions about him and would quite likely vote him if LMP's not the play.

I think whatever his secret tell on Magna can't possibly be strong enough to merit his play on Day 1. This makes me think he is lying, and Jahudo's point about Mac ignoring practically every other player is a good one.

Vote: MacavityLock

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Katsuki is another fine bet.

[Haschel Cedricson]

I still prefer MacLock, but the Katsuki wagon is better than the LMP wagon.

Unvote; Vote Katsuki

[Haschel Cedricson]

But you are scum and that's an excellent reason to lynch.

Vote: Katsuki

[Haschel Cedricson]

This game.

Lynch MOI for me tomorrow guys. He is scum.

That's a great idea, lynching the guy who's been making the most sense this entire game.

I'll get right on that*.

I'm also not regretting my Katsuki hammer right here, you were the correct lynch for today.

*I will not actually get on that.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Getting caught up.

First off, I agree with this:

When we massclaim, we need to avoid commenting on anyone's claim until all are in. Agreed?

I also disagree with Jahudo's stance towards a massclaim.

As for my top four, I'd have to go with Mac, Talitha, UT, and either Jahudo or charter, although I admit the feelings on the latter two are not very strong. I'm having a much easier time deciding who's town than I am deciding who's scummy. Fonz and MOI are at the top of that list, with kmd somewhat below those two.

Sorry about going MIA; it's been crazy busy here. Tomorrow I'll reread the Katsuki/LMP wagons.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Newman, weak cop. Each night I can check if somebody is Jerry or not. LMP, UT, and Jahudo are not Jerry.

Jahudo next.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Newman, weak cop. Each night I can check if somebody is Jerry or not. LMP, UT, and Jahudo are not Jerry.

Jahudo next.

There are no nights.

I know there are no nights, but I get the result at the end of the day, so that seemed like the easiest way to phrase it.

[Haschel Cedricson]

WHY HC IS LYING SCUM:
-HC and I claim to have the same character name.
-HC claims he is a cop, I claim I am a tracker with a mailman flavor in my role PM. Newman is a mailman on the TV show, not a cop.

My ability is called

Nemesis

.

Your argument is ridiculous. Newman is a mailman on the show, not a tracker.

See, I can make stupid non sequitors too. You may as well counterclaim the others with "Morty is a dad on the TV show, not a neighborizer", or "Jackie Chiles is a lawyer, not a vote manipulator.

Fonz, I pretty much agree with you. I'm thinking there's a solid chance that Jahudo-scum saw his scum-buddy Haschel floundering and decided to try to counter-claim to get himself semi-confirmed.

Except I wasn't floundering. UT's argument is equally ridiculous. Let's take a look at the rules again:

End of Day actions can be submitted at any time, but will only resolve at the end of the day.

I get my results during the time between days. It may not be a technical "night" but it functions exactly the same as one in terms of me finding things out. UT finding it scummy to refer to the time between days as a night is grasping towards straws.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Hey Haschel care to comment on how you claim of scanning LMP Day 1 (based on your list order) is bullshit since I was watching him all day long?

Nice to see how reponsive and active you are in thread now that you are under fire.

Sure, it's not bullshit and you are either lying or were roleblocked or something else we don't know about happened.

I actually suspect the latter two, since I've had a town read on you the whole game.

As for your last comment, my activity level is cyclical, and apparently right now I'm at the top of the cycle. You of all the players in here should know this.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Plus, IMO in this game, tracker makes a lot more sense than cop. Just saying.

How does a tracker make sense in a game where there are apparently no night kills to be tracked?

Also, if UT, Jahudo, MOI, and charter are all telling the truth, then we have a game where it's easy for cross-confirmation to screw the scumteam without giving them a chance to eliminate the powerroles.

Somebody asked why I wasn't voting. It was agreed that we were going to discuss the claims first.

Right, class now, so I may not respond to this thread immediately.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Wel MacLock knew Magna was Joe Davola. Either he's scum or the scum also have a flavor expert who figured out Magna's breadcrumbs. Either way HC could have known he was in a position where the only one who could counter-claim him was the one ranting about not wanting to massclaim today.

The only relevant breadcrumb Magna made was capitalizing the word Crazy in his second post of the game. Are you seriously arguing that TWO players noticed that and drew the correct conclusion? Also, there was a general consensus that your attitude towards massclaim was wrong but not scummy.

Anyhoo, I see we're voting now.

Vote: Jahudo

[Haschel Cedricson]

About four minutes after I made this post.

[Haschel Cedricson]

EBWOP:

2. How possibru is a scum tracker? I suppose it's somewhat possibru, but him being scum means that
> a. have both a scum tracker and a town tracker

What? No. I am not a tracker, I'm a weak cop.

Do you honestly think that the town got four confirmable powerroles and the scum got none?

[Haschel Cedricson]

The sea was angry that day, my friends - like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli. I got about fifty feet out and suddenly, the great beast appeared before me. I tell you he was ten stories high if he was a foot. As if sensing my presence, he let out a great bellow. I said, "Easy, big fella!" And then, as I watched him struggling, I realized that something was obstructing its breathing. From where I was standing, I could see directly into the eye of the great fish.

[Haschel Cedricson]

Wait, ignore that last post and pretend I posted this instead:

# Believe it or not, Haschel isn't at home, / Please leave a message at the beep. / I must be out, or I'd pick up the phone, / Where could I be? / Believe it or not, I'm not home. #

[Haschel Cedricson]

I would play a game like that.